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Posted May 19, 2024 21:48 · last edited May 19, 2024 21:50

Doloras
Ryan
Doloras
" Who honestly gives a shark what the cops do, "

Spoken by someone who's never had the cops raid their house or someone they love.

No support at all to the spot-fixers, and the photo of Clayton in his undies was kind of funny, but the cops are generally out of control where-ever you go in the world and need to be reminded that they're public servants, not paramilitary overlords.
Yep, but also leaking photos and names seems unnecessary, New Zealands rules around name suppression can be problematic, but in the age of the internet I think it's best to have privacy until a conviction. Even if Lewis is found innocent and had no involvement in it, the stigma of this will follow him forever and will likely hamper his career.
As I've said elsewhere, the NSW guidelines on name suppression make it clear that the identities of those accused of crimes are not suppressed except for good reason, and "embarrassment to the accused if they're found not guilty" is not considered a good reason.

Would you have preferred that the entire operation be kept secret? Because I don't see how you could do a spot-fixing bust on the A-League (or any major sports league) and keep it secret. There are only about (does quick maths) 250 people who it could possibly be, and even if photos weren't put out you could work it out by elimination quite quickly. Even if you didn't name the club you'd have a 1-in-12 chance of guessing right. 
I'd have preferred for it to be kept secret until they were found guilty, yes. Once guilty, go for gold.

It would be problematic to keep it secret, but it would just be unfounded speculation and in the off season they won't be playing football anyway. If they were in season then it would be different again.

It's just tough in the age of the internet to be wrongly accused. Embarrassment is one thing, but having your entire career destroyed based on a wrong accusation is a very real possibility if one of the players is found innocent.

Saying that, the nature of the operation and the fact that they know the specific sums paid shows that it's pretty likely the players are guilty, so the opinion likely dooesn't apply here. But, overseas there have been occasions where people have committed suicide because of the online bullying based on accusations and leaked police arrest videos.

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Doloras
Ryan
Doloras
" Who honestly gives a shark what the cops do, "

Spoken by someone who's never had the cops raid their house or someone they love.

No support at all to the spot-fixers, and the photo of Clayton in his undies was kind of funny, but the cops are generally out of control where-ever you go in the world and need to be reminded that they're public servants, not paramilitary overlords.
Yep, but also leaking photos and names seems unnecessary, New Zealands rules around name suppression can be problematic, but in the age of the internet I think it's best to have privacy until a conviction. Even if Lewis is found innocent and had no involvement in it, the stigma of this will follow him forever and will likely hamper his career.
As I've said elsewhere, the NSW guidelines on name suppression make it clear that the identities of those accused of crimes are not suppressed except for good reason, and "embarrassment to the accused if they're found not guilty" is not considered a good reason.

Would you have preferred that the entire operation be kept secret? Because I don't see how you could do a spot-fixing bust on the A-League (or any major sports league) and keep it secret. There are only about (does quick maths) 250 people who it could possibly be, and even if photos weren't put out you could work it out by elimination quite quickly. Even if you didn't name the club you'd have a 1-in-12 chance of guessing right. 
I'd have preferred for it to be kept secret until they were found guilty, yes. Once guilty, go for gold.

It would be problematic to keep it secret, but it would just be unfounded speculation and in the off season they won't be playing football anyway.

It's just tough in the age of the internet to be wrongly accused. Embarassment is one thing, but having your entire career destroyed based on a wrong accusation is a very real possibility if one of the players is found innocent.

Saying that, the nature of the operation and the fact that they know the specific sums paid shows that it's pretty likely the players are guilty, so the opinion likely dooesn't apply here. But, overseas there have been occasions where people have committed suicide because of the online bullying based on accusations and leaked police arrest videos.