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Posted January 20, 2014 03:12 · last edited January 20, 2014 03:13

Bruce I respect your opinion on this and you have posted some stuff in the last 24 hours where I have gone 'Hmmm ok I may have to rethink that'. I guess the issue is not 'coaching in the community' as such. Its coaching in the community and the direct correlation that they be tied to that very club.

As an example, are ACFC prepared to submit an application for funding for coaching kids (which as you propose is fine and it certain is) but the coach is Jake Butler. High profile player, current AW......? I bet you that would never happen because Jake does not play for ACFC.

Thus the inference is that the player is directly tied to that club, which is where the issue is. I have absolutely no issue with coaching kids in the community (and if we were honest, in summer when no one is really thinking football?) and I totally get that finding work for your tractor driver is fine, but the issue here is that it in this case, it is disguised as a way to pay a player full time to play for the club. Does Ivan need to get 70k for coaching kids for a couple of hours a week, and lets be honest, at kindy level, those kids may not know Ivan and he basically baby sits them for 60 mins while they run about with a ball and have fun. Would they still be prepared to do that for Ivan if he retired from ACFC today? I seriously doubt it.

That's where the issue is.

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Jeff Vader edited January 20, 2014 03:13

Bruce I respect your opinion on this and you have posted some stuff in the last 24 hours where I have gone 'Hmmm ok I may have to rethink that'. I guess the issue is not 'coaching in the community' as such. Its coaching in the community and the direct correlation that they be tied to that very club.

As an example, are ACFC prepared to submit an application for funding for coaching kids (which as you propose is fine and it certain is) but the coach is Jake Butler. High profile player, current AW......? I bet you that would never happen because Jake does not play for ACFC.

Thus the inference is that the player is directly tied to that club, which is where the issue is. I have absolutely no issue with coaching kids in the community (and if we were honest, in summer when no one is really thinking football?) and I totally get that finding work for your tractor driver is fine, but the issue here is that it in this case, it is disguised as a way to pay a player full time to play for the club. Does Ivan need to get 70k for coaching kids for a couple of hours a week, and lets be honest, at kindy level, those kids may no know Ivan and he basically baby sits them for 60 mins while they run about with a ball and have fun. Would they still be prepared to do that for Ivan if he retired from ACFC today? I seriously doubt it.

That's where the issue is.