Posted July 14, 2024 21:06
· last edited July 14, 2024 21:08
Bullion
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Friar Tuck
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imanixsupporter
It was $1,800,000 in cash for Paulsen, it will be less than that for Old, and probably less than that again for Surman. I suspect the sum total is going to be less than 4 million total, which might just about cover the salary floor for two seasons once you factor in APL's meager yearly contribution. The Nix have other expenses too and also generally lose money on home games, so our costs are only really covered for a season. We may see more in the future from these sales when it comes to add ons and sell on clauses but none of that is guaranteed. theprof
Doloras
theprof
Another young gun being purchased is great news for the club financially, it's gonna create some recruitment challenges I'd expect but I'd trust the academy kids and Chief to find replacements for them all. Surman is one I thought we'd sell next season, but I guess given he's been part of the CB pair with Wootton it's not surprising that he's been spotted. LKH at CB will be brilliant, it's more his spot than LB - will mean that Sutton will get a bigger role next season.
"great news financially" does not square with "nominal fee"
Lets not get into semantics here. Old's was reported as a 7 figure fee, so a million at least. If Surman's nominal fee is anywhere near that then the club have made $6m in player sales in a few months. That's multiple seasons of operational costs covered.
Gotta also factor in that Football Australia take a 10% cut of international transfers. So we ain't getting all that cash.
Can they impose that on an NZ team considering they no longer administer the A-League?
Technically we are an Australian team that resides in NZ, so I assume its still the case (rather than NZF taking a cut). That figure comes from a 22/23 PFA report, so even with independence they get their slice of the pie still.
if we were an Aus club based in NZ we would be eligible for Asian comps, no? I get the 10% fee for FA, they can invest in the game in Aus, but they're not going to invest in NZ.
The AFC have said they don't want us competing, and even if we could there is no way we could field a team as most of our players would be considered foreigners. Asian champions league teams can only have 5 foreign players.
Likely the 10% fee is just what FA negotiated with the APL as part of the separation, just like they get board seats and a percentage of revenue.
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Friar Tuck
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imanixsupporter
It was $1,800,000 in cash for Paulsen, it will be less than that for Old, and probably less than that again for Surman. I suspect the sum total is going to be less than 4 million total, which might just about cover the salary floor for two seasons once you factor in APL's meager yearly contribution. The Nix have other expenses too and also generally lose money on home games, so our costs are only really covered for a season. We may see more in the future from these sales when it comes to add ons and sell on clauses but none of that is guaranteed. theprof
Doloras
theprof
Another young gun being purchased is great news for the club financially, it's gonna create some recruitment challenges I'd expect but I'd trust the academy kids and Chief to find replacements for them all. Surman is one I thought we'd sell next season, but I guess given he's been part of the CB pair with Wootton it's not surprising that he's been spotted. LKH at CB will be brilliant, it's more his spot than LB - will mean that Sutton will get a bigger role next season.
"great news financially" does not square with "nominal fee"
Lets not get into semantics here. Old's was reported as a 7 figure fee, so a million at least. If Surman's nominal fee is anywhere near that then the club have made $6m in player sales in a few months. That's multiple seasons of operational costs covered.
Gotta also factor in that Football Australia take a 10% cut of international transfers. So we ain't getting all that cash.
Can they impose that on an NZ team considering they no longer administer the A-League?
Technically we are an Australian team that resides in NZ, so I assume its still the case (rather than NZF taking a cut). That figure comes from a 22/23 PFA report, so even with independence they get their slice of the pie still.
if we were an Aus club based in NZ we would be eligible for Asian comps, no? I get the 10% fee for FA, they can invest in the game in Aus, but they're not going to invest in NZ.
The AFC have said they don't want us competing, and even if we could there is no way we could field a team as most of our players would be considered foreigners. Asian champions league teams can only have 5 foreign players.
Unknown editoredited July 14, 2024 21:06
Bullion
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Friar Tuck
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imanixsupporter
It was $1,800,000 in cash for Paulsen, it will be less than that for Old, and probably less than that again for Surman. I suspect the sum total is going to be less than 4 million total, which might just about cover the salary floor for two seasons once you factor in APL's meager yearly contribution. The Nix have other expenses too and also generally lose money on home games, so our costs are only really covered for a season. We may see more in the future from these sales when it comes to add ons and sell on clauses but none of that is guaranteed. theprof
Doloras
theprof
Another young gun being purchased is great news for the club financially, it's gonna create some recruitment challenges I'd expect but I'd trust the academy kids and Chief to find replacements for them all. Surman is one I thought we'd sell next season, but I guess given he's been part of the CB pair with Wootton it's not surprising that he's been spotted. LKH at CB will be brilliant, it's more his spot than LB - will mean that Sutton will get a bigger role next season.
"great news financially" does not square with "nominal fee"
Lets not get into semantics here. Old's was reported as a 7 figure fee, so a million at least. If Surman's nominal fee is anywhere near that then the club have made $6m in player sales in a few months. That's multiple seasons of operational costs covered.
Gotta also factor in that Football Australia take a 10% cut of international transfers. So we ain't getting all that cash.
Can they impose that on an NZ team considering they no longer administer the A-League?
Technically we are an Australian team that resides in NZ, so I assume its still the case (rather than NZF taking a cut). That figure comes from a 22/23 PFA report, so even with independence they get their slice of the pie still.
if we were an Aus club based in NZ we would be eligible for Asian comps, no? I get the 10% fee for FA, they can invest in the game in Aus, but they're not going to invest in NZ.
The AFC have said they don't want us competing, and even if we could there is no way we could field a team as most of our players would be considered foreigners. Asian cup teams can only have 5 foreign players.