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Posted July 12, 2024 20:19 · last edited July 12, 2024 20:19

RR
Friar Tuck
RR
imanixsupporter
It was $1,800,000 in cash for Paulsen, it will be less than that for Old, and probably less than that again for Surman. I suspect the sum total is going to be less than 4 million total, which might just about cover the salary floor for two seasons once you factor in APL's meager yearly contribution. The Nix have other expenses too and also generally lose money on home games, so our costs are only really covered for a season. We may see more in the future from these sales when it comes to add ons and sell on clauses but none of that is guaranteed.
theprof
Doloras
theprof
Another young gun being purchased is great news for the club financially, it's gonna create some recruitment challenges I'd expect but I'd trust the academy kids and Chief to find replacements for them all. Surman is one I thought we'd sell next season, but I guess given he's been part of the CB pair with Wootton it's not surprising that he's been spotted.
LKH at CB will be brilliant, it's more his spot than LB - will mean that Sutton will get a bigger role next season.
"great news financially" does not square with "nominal fee"

Lets not get into semantics here. Old's was reported as a 7 figure fee, so a million at least. If Surman's nominal fee is anywhere near that then the club have made $6m in player sales in a few months. That's multiple seasons of operational costs covered.

Gotta also factor in that Football Australia take a 10% cut of international transfers. So we ain't getting all that cash. 
Can they impose that on an NZ team considering they no longer administer the A-League?

Technically we are an Australian team that resides in NZ, so I assume its still the case (rather than NZF taking a cut). That figure comes from a 22/23 PFA report, so even with independence they get their slice of the pie still.

Crock of shark that. 

How much input did they have on say Surman or LKH in the future? Not much I'd gamble. 

Our academy back in the day might have had some financial help from FA (read that acronym as you wish), but there will have been next to no financial help with our academy in recent years from them. APL yes, Football Australia No.

If that 10% were to go to the A Leagues sweet as, but football Australia can fudge right off IMO.

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RR
Friar Tuck
RR
imanixsupporter
It was $1,800,000 in cash for Paulsen, it will be less than that for Old, and probably less than that again for Surman. I suspect the sum total is going to be less than 4 million total, which might just about cover the salary floor for two seasons once you factor in APL's meager yearly contribution. The Nix have other expenses too and also generally lose money on home games, so our costs are only really covered for a season. We may see more in the future from these sales when it comes to add ons and sell on clauses but none of that is guaranteed.
theprof
Doloras
theprof
Another young gun being purchased is great news for the club financially, it's gonna create some recruitment challenges I'd expect but I'd trust the academy kids and Chief to find replacements for them all. Surman is one I thought we'd sell next season, but I guess given he's been part of the CB pair with Wootton it's not surprising that he's been spotted.
LKH at CB will be brilliant, it's more his spot than LB - will mean that Sutton will get a bigger role next season.
"great news financially" does not square with "nominal fee"

Lets not get into semantics here. Old's was reported as a 7 figure fee, so a million at least. If Surman's nominal fee is anywhere near that then the club have made $6m in player sales in a few months. That's multiple seasons of operational costs covered.

Gotta also factor in that Football Australia take a 10% cut of international transfers. So we ain't getting all that cash. 
Can they impose that on an NZ team considering they no longer administer the A-League?

Technically we are an Australian team that resides in NZ, so I assume its still the case (rather than NZF taking a cut). That figure comes from a 22/23 PFA report, so even with independence they get their slice of the pie still.

Crock of shark that. 

How much input did they have on say Surman? Not much I'd gamble. 

Our academy back in the day might have had some financial help from FA (read that acronym as you wish), but there will have been next to no financial help with our academy in recent years from them. APL yes, Football Australia No.

If that 10% were to go to the A Leagues sweet as, but football Australia can fudge right off IMO.