Jack Iredale (Bolton Wanderers | England)

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Rusty Dunks
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Looks like this guy would be eligible to play for NZ?

Lived here for 9 years (1-10), and Mum represented NZ at the Olympics.

Defender for Cambridge. 

Maybe a moot point as the AWs never play anyway!

https://www.ecujoondalup.com.au/news/2019/jack-iredale-on-his-football-journey/

February 21, 2021 20:13
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Rusty Dunks wrote:

Looks like this guy would be eligible to play for NZ?

Lived here for 9 years (1-10), and Mum represented NZ at the Olympics.

Defender for Cambridge. 

Maybe a moot point as the AWs never play anyway!

https://www.ecujoondalup.com.au/news/2019/jack-ire...

Sounds like he's got his eyes on the Socceroos.

"Iredale talks about Australian internationals who have starred in the British game, like Harry Kewell, Mark Viduka and Scott McDonald, as he imagines a future with the Socceroos. “Another factor in moving here is that there’s a lot of boys in the Australia squad pool who play their football in England. More publicity, more eyes on the league…it’s something I want to do.” He came to the UK at 21 through a family friend, the former St Mirren midfielder Steven McGarry who also played in Australia."

But yeah would be a handy pickup if he threw his hat in with NZ.

Cambridge are top of League Two, and Iredale's played 25 games (14 starts). Two goals. Sounds like he's left back.

https://us.soccerway.com/players/jack-iredale/4932...

He must have been about 4 years old, when his Scottish born mum completed at 2000 Olympics for NZ in judo. Don't mess with mum.

February 21, 2021 22:39 · Edited February 23, 2021 18:08
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Interesting... Depends if he became a NZ citizen or not. If he has NZ citizenship then under the new FIFA statutes he is eligible for NZ.

February 23, 2021 17:35
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Says in this article that Iredale grew up in Hamilton, and moved to Oz aged 10. 

https://www.cambridgeindependent.co.uk/sport/jack-iredale-overcomes-hurdles-to-succeed-as-cambridge-united-s-wizard-of-oz-9157497/

This article intimates that Iredale moved to NZ from Scotland just after birth.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/judo-wee-jack-cheers-on-mum/XOGG4EN24JCP3CESZDDIL4PTEE/

Assuming he was here for 10 years, 5 of those school aged years, does this make him eligible?

Isn't there a rule about five years of schooling?
June 22, 2021 18:56
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No
June 22, 2021 19:26
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No

Found this on the Forbes website from 2020. If a player lived in a country for 3 years under the age of 10, they are eligible;

"The new wording of FIFA’s regulations means that as well as living somewhere for five years after the age of 18, players who started living in a country before the age of 10 can be eligible after living there for three years, and those who started living there after the age of 10 can be eligible after five years."
June 22, 2021 19:34
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Got a full game on the weekend as a LB, as Cambridge started their League One season with a 1-1 draw against Oxford.
August 09, 2021 15:55 · Edited August 09, 2021 15:55
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Has had 5 full games for 10th placed Cambridge in League One. Playing LB.
https://us.soccerway.com/players/jack-iredale/493215/

Age 25, and if he can't make a solely Northern Hemisphere based Socceroos (Rhyan Grant excepted), for upcoming AFC qualifiers, may never be picked for Australia. Wonder if Hay/NZF have ever made contact. Viable alternative backup to Cacace esp for a NH based AWs. Wilkins & Wynne known options.


August 30, 2021 22:37 · Edited August 30, 2021 22:40
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 I went to the PAFC vs Cambridge game two weeks ago, Cambridge are not half bad. 

If 'Straya are not interested, I'd invite him to an AW camp and tie him down.  Only increases our LB quality.  Pity he's not an RB.

Just realised I watched him. I always travel with a ferns flag, he might have seen that and got ideas!


August 31, 2021 01:04 · Edited August 31, 2021 01:13
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Could also play as the left sided centre back in a back 3; he's 6ft 3 after all.
Why wait for Australia? We should be proactive!
August 31, 2021 06:33 · Edited August 31, 2021 07:30
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I'm not on Twitter,  but here's his account. Someone ask him?

https://mobile.twitter.com/jackiredale14?lang=en
August 31, 2021 07:47
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No

Found this on the Forbes website from 2020. If a player lived in a country for 3 years under the age of 10, they are eligible;

"The new wording of FIFA’s regulations means that as well as living somewhere for five years after the age of 18, players who started living in a country before the age of 10 can be eligible after living there for three years, and those who started living there after the age of 10 can be eligible after five years."

From FIFA:
'In this respect, FIFA competition regulations consistently state that proof of “nationality” is only provided through the holding of a “permanent international passport”'

If he doesn't have citizenship he can't play. The regulation around years lived somewhere is used to deter countries from importing players for their national teams.

Sauce: https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/ccab990abf45fcf6/original/ro8mje8vw98yp3rvfbmi-pdf.pdf
August 31, 2021 09:03 · Edited August 31, 2021 09:04
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You may be right

But, how would he seemingly be eligible for Aussie? He lived there much shorter time than in NZ, and never over the age of 18. 
August 31, 2021 09:27 · Edited August 31, 2021 09:30
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Given he was playing in the WA NPL in 2017 it looks like he lived there about 10 years as well. More than enough time for his family to have obtained citizenship.
August 31, 2021 09:43
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Given he was playing in the WA NPL in 2017 it looks like he lived there about 10 years as well. More than enough time for his family to have obtained citizenship.

More an issue of did he get NZ citizenship when living here, or just continue with his UK passport, having been born in Scotland. His Scottish Mum represented NZ at the Sydney Olympics, so she would have had to have got NZ citzenship. Hopefully whole family did.
August 31, 2021 10:04
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He started today at LB.  Fingers crossed he's eligible.  Getting in some good minutes at a decent level.
September 12, 2021 02:51
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I'm not on Twitter,  but here's his account. Someone ask him?

https://mobile.twitter.com/jackiredale14?lang=en
 hopefully NZF/kiwi football writers have been in touch to clarify.
September 12, 2021 02:53
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I'm not on Twitter,  but here's his account. Someone ask him?

https://mobile.twitter.com/jackiredale14?lang=en
 hopefully NZF/kiwi football writers have been in touch to clarify.
Emailed mum Fiona Iredale last week, but no reply. 

Anyone tweeted Jack directly?
September 21, 2021 16:29
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Do you know his mum?
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Do you know his mum?

No, but she is easy enough to find online given her background in judo. 
September 22, 2021 16:08
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Out of interest, has started and finished 23 games for Cambridge United in League One this season. 1 goal.

Sometimes Left CB, sometimes LB.

Cambridge 17th, 1 spot above Tzanev's Wimbledon.


December 30, 2021 10:57
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Would be so good if he was eligible. And keen. 
December 31, 2021 16:03
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Signed 3 year deal with Bolton Wanderers 
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Cap him Danny Headshot. Cacace - Iredale - Pijnaker - Tuiloma - Kirwan would be an excellent backline for the future.
June 10, 2022 09:44
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Getting a 3 year gig at that level is an awesome sign. Hard life in the lower leagues lots of uncertainty this time of year.
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Getting a 3 year gig at that level is an awesome sign. Hard life in the lower leagues lots of uncertainty this time of year.
June 10, 2022 18:24
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7 starts to date for Bolton who are 5th in League One.

https://us.soccerway.com/players/jack-iredale/493215/

September 18, 2022 13:16 · Edited September 18, 2022 13:16
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What's the deal with this guy? We've capped players at League Two level, this guy is a league above any nobody seems to talk about him? Is he really eligible for NZ? Doesn't want to play for us? Coaches not aware of him? 
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What's the deal with this guy? We've capped players at League Two level, this guy is a league above any nobody seems to talk about him? Is he really eligible for NZ? Doesn't want to play for us? Coaches not aware of him? 
Born in Scotland, lived in NZ from age 1-10 (9 years total) before moving to Perth. His mum (born in Scotland) represented NZ at the Olympics in Judo. I believe he’s an NZ citizen so presumably should be eligible, but could be a bit of a Deklan Wynne situation?

Either way, he’s often voiced his loyalty to Australia and how Perth is his one and only home. 

Australia though, have the likes of Callum Elder (Championship), Jason Davidson (Belgium), Alex Gersbach (Ligue 2), Joel King (Denmark) and Aziz Behich (Scotland) in front of him in the pecking order.

For us he’d be the clear second choice behind Libby, or potentially a nailed on starter at LCB in a back 5. Guy looks like a bloody good player, would be great to cap him and have our own Robertson/Tierney conundrum.
September 18, 2022 19:14
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Bolton (5th in League One) with a 3-0 win at Barnsley (6th) over the weekend.
https://us.soccerway.com/matches/2023/01/02/england/league-one/barnsley-fc/bolton-wanderers-football-club/3809922/

Barnsley down to 10 men from the 11th min (0-0). No Jamie Searle in match day squad for them. He hasn't been sighted since late Sept in a League One match.

Jack Iredale got 56 mins (2-0) at LB for Bolton. He's played 19 games (17 starts) this season.

Hopefully the new AWs gaffer reaches out, if he is eligible.
Bolton host Waine's Plymouth (1st) this weekend in a big clash.

January 04, 2023 14:58 · Edited January 04, 2023 16:15
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Oh and Mods can you please update Iredale's club to Bolton.
January 04, 2023 16:16
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I contacted Marc Iles, head football writer at the Bolton News. He talked to Iredale about his NZ eligibility, got this reply;

"Jack seemed to think it would be possible - but he doesn't have a Kiwi passport. His mum does (and represented the country at the Olympics in Judo)."
January 10, 2023 06:42 · Edited January 10, 2023 06:43
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 1. Any player who refers to art. 5 par. 1 to assume a new nationality and who has not played international football in accordance with art. 5 par. 3 shall be eligible to play for the representative teams of the new association only if he fulfils one of the following conditions:
a) He was born on the territory of the relevant association;
b) His biological mother or biological father was born on the territory of the relevant association;
c) His grandmother or grandfather was born on the territory of the relevant association;
d) He has lived on the territory of the relevant association:
i) for players that began living on the territory before the age of 10: at least three years;
ii) for players that began living on the territory between the age of 10 and 18: at least five years;
iii) for players that began living on the territory from the age of 18: at least five years.

So I think he qualifies under d)i), but he also needs to satisfy  art. 5 par. 1  which reads.
Any person holding a permanent nationality that is not dependent on residence in a certain country is eligible to play for the representative teams of the association of that country 
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I contacted Marc Iles, head football writer at the Bolton News. He talked to Iredale about his NZ eligibility, got this reply;

"Jack seemed to think it would be possible - but he doesn't have a Kiwi passport. His mum does (and represented the country at the Olympics in Judo)."
Solid work Russ
January 10, 2023 10:04
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Seems keen on representing Aus, but they haven't scouted him. I would think NZ could jump to the top of the queue, if we showed an interest. Especially as we are virtually guaranteed a WC 2026 spot. Did play one match for Aus U17 but cannot see if it was a competitive or friendly match. 

https://ukdaily.news/manchester/bolton-wanderers-jack-iredale-fulfills-his-world-cup-dream-with-australia-89071.html
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Seems keen on representing Aus, but they haven't scouted him. I would think NZ could jump to the top of the queue, if we showed an interest. Especially as we are virtually guaranteed a WC 2026 spot. Did play one match for Aus U17 but cannot see if it was a competitive or friendly match. 

https://ukdaily.news/manchester/bolton-wanderers-jack-iredale-fulfills-his-world-cup-dream-with-australia-89071.html
 Whether he wants to is just as, if not more, important as whether he's eligible. Youth caps wouldn't matter, but if he sees himself as Australian and wants to represent Australia, then that's pretty much it isn't it. I'd rather have a squad of players who are there because they learnt the game in New Zealand and are the best we can produce. Having guys who are desperate to represent the country over all else is better than trying to convince dual-nats that they won't be able to play for the country they wanted to, but New Zealand will suffice if they want to play international football. Surely we can do better than becoming 'Australia B' and being desperate for the guys they don't want (Ingham x2, Roux, Champness, Durante).
January 10, 2023 11:38
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Who knows what he is thinking but from memory the family spent about 8 years in NZ after emigrating from Scotland. I’d have a soft spot for Aotearoa if my mum represented NZ in the Olympics.

But everyone is different and sometimes you probably don’t even know until you start playing, which I think was genuinely the case with Stensness

He will be on the Socceroos radar. Arnie has capped a shark load of different players, trying to nut out his best squad

But nothing to lose picking him for a AWs friendly esp so early in the WC cycle. Even if just like Ally Green initially with the Ferns it’s just to observe and not play
January 10, 2023 12:22 · Edited January 10, 2023 15:27
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Seems keen on representing Aus, but they haven't scouted him. I would think NZ could jump to the top of the queue, if we showed an interest. Especially as we are virtually guaranteed a WC 2026 spot. Did play one match for Aus U17 but cannot see if it was a competitive or friendly match. 

https://ukdaily.news/manchester/bolton-wanderers-jack-iredale-fulfills-his-world-cup-dream-with-australia-89071.html
 Whether he wants to is just as, if not more, important as whether he's eligible. Youth caps wouldn't matter, but if he sees himself as Australian and wants to represent Australia, then that's pretty much it isn't it. I'd rather have a squad of players who are there because they learnt the game in New Zealand and are the best we can produce. Having guys who are desperate to represent the country over all else is better than trying to convince dual-nats that they won't be able to play for the country they wanted to, but New Zealand will suffice if they want to play international football. Surely we can do better than becoming 'Australia B' and being desperate for the guys they don't want (Ingham x2, Roux, Champness, Durante).

So you'd rather we didn't have Reid and Smith the last 10 years?
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Seems keen on representing Aus, but they haven't scouted him. I would think NZ could jump to the top of the queue, if we showed an interest. Especially as we are virtually guaranteed a WC 2026 spot. Did play one match for Aus U17 but cannot see if it was a competitive or friendly match. 

https://ukdaily.news/manchester/bolton-wanderers-jack-iredale-fulfills-his-world-cup-dream-with-australia-89071.html
 Whether he wants to is just as, if not more, important as whether he's eligible. Youth caps wouldn't matter, but if he sees himself as Australian and wants to represent Australia, then that's pretty much it isn't it. I'd rather have a squad of players who are there because they learnt the game in New Zealand and are the best we can produce. Having guys who are desperate to represent the country over all else is better than trying to convince dual-nats that they won't be able to play for the country they wanted to, but New Zealand will suffice if they want to play international football. Surely we can do better than becoming 'Australia B' and being desperate for the guys they don't want (Ingham x2, Roux, Champness, Durante).

So you'd rather we didn't have Reid and Smith the last 10 years?
Steve Sumner, John Hill, Bobby Almond, Steve Wooddin, Colin Walker, Shane Smeltz, Glen Moss, Michael McGlinchey... there's a long list if you want to apply that criteria, and we'd have lost a lot of great servants over the years...
January 10, 2023 14:43
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It's surely worth a conversation for NZF to have with him, for our next game in 2024
January 10, 2023 16:57
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