Rather than having a waste of time match against Myanmar, would NZS be better off assembling the US-based college players, and having "contact time" with them - see how they are placed, work out how to get them into pro-teams after college, maybe play against "USA College XI" or a "Canada College XI"? A lot of players just drift into the ether after going down the college route, maybe some good talent going to waste
Kiwis at US Colleges
Terrible idea - this camp is great. Opposition not ideal but NZ needs to win games sooo
Rather than having a waste of time match against Myanmar, would NZS be better off assembling the US-based college players, and having "contact time" with them - see how they are placed, work out how to get them into pro-teams after college, maybe play against "USA College XI" or a "Canada College XI"? A lot of players just drift into the ether after going down the college route, maybe some good talent going to waste
Maybe better to get them together after the school term finishes.
Good idea - makes more sense......and maybe get scouts from MLS/USL/NASL along, so they can see if there is any talent worth investing in
Especially because the US colleges don't have to release their players if they get called up for the national team.
Article in current Kapi Mana news claims Ole Academy has 35 graduates currently playing in USA colleges.
What a goal by Alex Ridsdale
http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/sport/72361380/alex-ridsdale-scores-spectacular-bicycle-kick-goal-for-xavier-university
Wellingtonian GK Andrew Whiters is at St. John's Uni, same as Luis Esteves.
Former Auckland City's Troy Phoa is now at Boston Uni
Noah Billingsley has joined UC Santa Barbara, the same college Tony Lochhead and Michael Boxall attended.
Go Gauchos
18 year old Dunedin keeper Liam Whittakers move to the States this year may have just fallen through as he is apparently 'too short'. He's 6 foot but they said you need too be 6'2. Thoughts?
lol... obviously not for the kid.
You'd think things like reaction times / vertical leap etc would be more vital in reality.
18 year old Dunedin keeper Liam Whittakers move to the States this year may have just fallen through as he is apparently 'too short'. He's 6 foot but they said you need too be 6'2. Thoughts?
#metricsrool
A game of the top 2 inches - but this is nuts.
That's stoopid.
Victor Valdes is only 6'. Casillas is 6'1" or 6' depending on who you believe. Kasper Schmeichel is 6'1". And what about the legendary Jorge Campos? He was only about 5'8" or so.
Obviously height is an advantage for a goalie but it's not like the kid is 5'2" or something.
If you're good enough you're tall enough.
This is not a surprise. The yanks have been doing this sort of thing in all of their sports for years. The first box you have to tick is physical attributes quickly followed by speed strength and power.
Former NZ U17 and U20 rep (apparently?) Tony Falvino has left Greensboro College and is now 'head coach' at USL side Carolina Dynamo.
Bit about him here
Scott Doney (former Wanderers SC striker) Marshall Thundering Herd
Harry Morton (former Hawke's Bay defender) - Hartwick Hawks
Daniel Carbonatto Bowkett (former Team Welly / Wanderers SC) - Princeton
Stuart Holthusen (former Wanderers SC) - Akron Zips
Riley Kelliher (Wanderers SC defender) - Northwestern Wildcats
Only one I recognise is Holthusen...
Are any of them getting big raps?
Kelliher was promising wee right back
Scott Doney isn't at Marshall any more. He's at University of Buffalo, and currently playing for Grand Rapids FC during the summer break. Banging in the goals too.
Kelliher was promising wee right back
Still is. Currently back playing for Wests.
Connor Probert at university of Kentucky. Also played in the u20 world cup.
Most colleges heading back into preseason soon. Any news of young kiwis heading off to their first season at US colleges?
Most colleges heading back into preseason soon. Any news of young kiwis heading off to their first season at US colleges?
Wests/Ole:
Noah Billingsley to Santa Barbara
Think I heard Mikey Faber might be off to somewhere in Texas
Could be others from West/Ole.
Most colleges heading back into preseason soon. Any news of young kiwis heading off to their first season at US colleges?
Wests/Ole:
Noah Billingsley to Santa Barbara
Think I heard Mikey Faber might be off to somewhere in Texas
Could be others from West/Ole.
Mason Kelliher : Willamette University (NCAA Div 3)
Mikey Faber : University of Texas Rio Grande Valley (NCAA Div 1)
Harry Merz : St Edwards University (NCAA Div 2)
(Willamette University had another Kiwi on their 2015 roster: Eric Keefe (ex Wellington College).
I guess student athletes attend USA College for different reasons. eg. The standard of "soccer" (Urgh).....the standard of education....life experience etc. Some Colleges rank highly for "soccer" but not so much Academics , some rank high on both (eg Stanford) & some are more academic than sports orientated (Div 3 has some excellent academic institutions) & its about finding the best "fit" for the specific student. The academic requirements for eligibilty are also different between NCAA Div 1 & 2, NAIA.
I'm no expert so happy to be corrected but as I understand it: Institutions can choose which Division they wish to be in and must meet certain requirements of that division. eg number of sports offered, Div 3 cant offer "Athletic scholarships" etc.
Institutions do change Divisions. eg. University of Chicago previously switched from Div 1 to Div 3, Pfieffer won Div 2 last year but will switch to Div 3 in 2016.
The standard of "soccer" & the standard of education can vary quite a bit across Divisions & the Institutions ranking within their Division. If taking the MLS draft then the majority of players come from NCAA Div 1 (generally from the top 50/100 Colleges from within Div 1 ? ) but a few have come from Div 2/3 , NAIA.
How is Stuart Houthenson (sorry about spelling) going?
He had a great start as a freshman a couple years ago and looked good at the age group level.
How is Stuart Houthenson (sorry about spelling) going?
He had a great start as a freshman a couple years ago and looked good at the age group level.
Freshmen Year: 9 starts, 4 goals, 4 assists. Received Second-Team All-Mid-American Conference (MAC) selection
Sophomore Year: 10 starts, 8 goals, 6 assists. Received First-Team All-MAC selection, and MAC All Tournament Team selection
Seems to be well on course to hopefully start and lead the line in his final two years.
His Sophomore stats are excellent!
He'll be pushing for MLS draft trial... can you trial before you graduate?
His Sophomore stats are excellent!
He'll be pushing for MLS draft trial... can you trial before you graduate?
If he continues the way he is going and has consistent Junior and Senior season, it is likely he could be invited to the MLS combine which usually occurs in December for MLS teams to scout for the draft which occurs in January.
Depending on his situation with his studies, he could graduate a semester early, which would mean he would be done in December of his Senior year. Or he could just go to the draft and see what happens, and if not, return to Uni for his final semester.
Top Drawer Soccer College Mens Soccer Pre Season Player Rankings:
#24 - Francis de Vries - St. Francis University (Pa.)
#27 - Cory Brown, Xavier University
Top Drawer Soccer College Womens Soccer Pre Season Player Rankings:
#84 - Hannah Wilkinson, University of Tennessee
Is Francis de Vries , Ryan's brother?
Hes a ginge
Francis used to play for FC Basel Youth in the swiss league
Tane Gent scored a double for No. 21 Wake Forrest last night: http://www.wakeforestsports.com/sports/m-soccer/re...
Any others having early season success?
For all of those wanting to follow any of the Kiwi players at US Colleges, hope this makes it easier for you:
As of Sept 15, 2016
| Name | Grade | University | GP | GS | Goals | Assists |
| Kyle Adams | So | SDSU | 5 | 5 | - | - |
| Mohammed Aided | Jr | Cal State Dominguez | - | - | - | - |
| Hunter Ashworth | So | U of San Francisco | - | - | - | - |
| Kieran Bellew | Jr | Amherst College | 2 | 1 | - | - |
| Noah Billingsley | Fr | U of Cal Santa Barbara | 5 | 2 | - | - |
| Daniel Bowkett | Jr | Princeton | 2 | 1 | - | 2 |
| Sam Brotherton | So | Wisconsin | 5 | 5 | - | - |
| Cory Brown | Jr | Xavier U | 6 | 6 | - | - |
| Hamish Cadigan | Jr | Franklin Pierce | 3 | 3 | - | - |
| Josh Clark | Jr | William Wood | 6 | 4 | - | - |
| Andrew Clothier | Sr | Colby Sawyer | 4 | 4 | - | - |
| Lawrence Clothier | So | Murray State | ? | ? | ? | ? |
| Elliot Collier | Jr | Loyola | 2 | - | 2 | 1 |
| Jack Coombes | Jr | U of Illinios Springfield | 3 | 3 | 2 | |
| Sam Copp | So | Western Illinois | 0 | 0 | GK | |
| Henry Crayton | Jr | Hofstra | 4 | 0 | - | - |
| Francis de Vries | Sr | St Francis | 6 | 6 | - | - |
| Tapfuma Dimairo | Gr | Spring Hill | 4 | 4 | - | 1 |
| Scott Doney | Jr | U of Buffalo | 6 | 3 | - | 1 |
| Ryan Elder | Gr | Spring Hill | 4 | 4 | - | 1 |
| Oscar Evans | So | Quinnipiac | 2 | 0 | - | - |
| Louis Evans | Fr | Davidson | - | - | - | - |
| Michael Faber | Fr | U of Texas Gio Grande | - | - | - | - |
| Henry Finnis | So | Hastings College | - | - | - | - |
| Cameron Hogg | Jr | U of Buffalo | - | - | GK | |
| Kian Hosseinpour | So | Texas Weslyann | 3 | 0 | 1 | - |
| Josh Finch | Sr | Missouri State | - | - | - | - |
| Nick Forrester | Jr | U of Buffalo | 6 | 1 | - | - |
| Tane Gent | Sr | Wake Forrest | 5 | - | 2 | - |
| Josh Greene | Jr | Seattle U | 3 | 0 | - | - |
| Joseph Harris | Sr | Seattle U | 3 | - | - | 1 |
| Stuart Holthusen | Jr | U of Akron | - | - | - | - |
| Cameron Horsfall | Fr | Murray State | ? | ? | GK | |
| Will Hunt | Fr | IPUFW | 7 | 7 | - | 1 |
| Eric Keefe | So | Willamette U | 3 | 3 | - | - |
| Mason Kelliher | Fr | Willamette U | - | - | GK | |
| Riley Kelliher | Jr | Northwestern U | 6 | 6 | - | - |
| Callum Kiddell | Sr | McKendree U | - | - | - | - |
| Furkan Kokcu | So | NJIT | 6 | 5 | - | 1 |
| Stefan Krystman | So | Bucknell | 3 | 0 | - | - |
| Reece Lambert | Sr | St Peters | 4 | 3 | - | - |
| Matthew Lieshout | So | IPUFW | 7 | 7 | - | 1 |
| Dan Looker | Sr | Cal State San Bernardino | 3 | 3 | - | - |
| Stefano Lorusso | Fr | U of New Haven | 4 | 4 | GK | |
| Ross McPhie | So | Cal State Fullerton | 6 | 6 | - | - |
| Harry Merz | Fr | St Edwards | - | - | - | - |
| Nathan Metzger | So | Piedmont College | 5 | 5 | 1 | - |
| Scott Midgley | Jr | Missouri State | 4 | 2 | - | - |
| Corey Mills | Sr | Southeastern U | 5 | 3 | - | 1 |
| Harry Morton | So | Hartwick | 4 | 3 | - | - |
| Zac Muir | Fr | Cedarville | 2 | 0 | - | - |
| Andy O’Donoghue | Jr | IPUFW | 4 | 4 | - | - |
| John Penas | Fr | Kenyon College | 5 | 0 | 1 | - |
| James Pendrigh | Sr | Drake University | 6 | 6 | - | - |
| Cam Philpot | So | U of South Carolina | 4 | 4 | 1 | - |
| Troy Phoa | So | Boston U | - | - | - | - |
| Connor Probert | Fr | U of Kentucky | 3 | 2 | - | - |
| Oscar Ramsay | Fr | Hofstra | 6 | 5 | - | - |
| James Routledge | Sr | Missouri State | 4 | 2 | - | - |
| Cam Sinclair | Jr | IPUFW | 6 | 4 | - | - |
| Fox Slotemaker | Jr | U of Buffalo | 6 | 6 | - | - |
| Will Smith | Jr | Elon U | 6 | 5 | - | 2 |
| Hamish Smylie | So | UMKC | 3 | 0 | - | - |
| Ben Stroud | Fr | Missouri State | 4 | 4 | - | - |
| Shaan Stuart | Sr | Wheeling Jesuit | 4 | 4 | 1 | - |
| Joash Sutherland | So | Xavier U | 6 | 6 | - | - |
| George Tighe | So | U of New Haven | 4 | 3 | - | - |
| Jordan Valentic- Holden | So | Loyola | 2 | - | - | - |
| Matt Wheeler | So | Murray State | ? | ? | ? | ? |
| Max Winterton | Fr | Saginaw Valley State | 2 | 0 | - | 1 |
| Kyle Wisnewski | So | Murray State | - | - | - | - |
| Andrew Withers | So | St Johns U | 5 | 3 | GK | |
| James Wypych | Sr | Drake University | 6 | 6 | 3 | 3 |
Awesome table, cheers for this.
Cory Brown must be getting close to an All Whites call-up, although it may be harder now with all the big guns back. They should bring him in to train with the team when they're in USA at least though. He's doing so well at Xavier that I'd be very surprised if he's not drafted when he finishes.