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Posted September 12, 2014 03:26 · last edited September 12, 2014 03:32

Midfielder wrote:

Interesting article on the Roar just prior to the contract bye out... In all honesty from an ethical stance this was a poor act by McGinchy see my comment on the article below. 

http://www.theroar.com.au/2014/09/12/mcglincheys-p...

From the article an interesting quote from Phill Moss

“”I am at least delighted with the arbitration ruling of the FFA because that was a test case for all players’ contracts and it was a massive can of worms that could have exploded if the ruling went the other way. The PFA fought to exploit a loophole, but if we had used that same loophole to release a player, I’m sure they would have jumped all over me and the club.”

My comment on the article is below.

Its reported that weeJudas paid out his contract. 

What has annoyed me most in this is the behaviour of the PFA they have lost a lot of respect I previously had for them.

FIFA rules and procedures which all countries who play under FIFA need comply with state on the sale of a club, clubs cannot not resign players and players walk out on clubs… FFA have similar rules…

The PFA is he had been hurt in Japan and could never have played again would have screamed the Mariners uphold his contract with us. 

The arbitration said the contract stood…

All the time the PFA were arguing and advising the Nux he was free… 

So PFA lets get this straight, a club struggling for money and is entitled to a transfer and yet you advise [wrongly as it turned out] he was free… then appealed to push the matter past most transfer windows and knowing the Mariners had already replaced him and planned to sell the player given he stated he had not faith in the coach and did not want to play for us [that is quite insulting TBH].

Beyond all this and its laughable, he was only six months into his contract when he asked to go and he was loaned out with no fee on the basic he would either return or we could sell him… this is great for future deals, how a player can openly walk away from a commitment like this hhmmm well its says a lot about the player..

NEXT time their is a dispute and a club does something to a player and people say why …. its things like this that harden management ..

Once upon a time I had huge respect for the PFA,… today I have little … they are acting more like a building union than the far sighted organisation they use to be

Just a few clarifications then:

Why did CCM and FFA advise the change of ownership(Entity) to the PFA - will we ever see a reason?

Why were the PFA given dates that this would occur.(Was it because it change contract status of the players?)

Whose advise was it on that CCM players were asked to sign New contracts/acknowledgements of ownership(Entity) change

Why did the FFA wait so long to advise they work on FIFA player contract rules(If they do) 

Doubt we will have these basics answered by a true official statement. But are not mentioned in most arguments as being factors.

(Just a Mechanic with no legal training)

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Blew.2 edited September 12, 2014 03:32
Midfielder wrote:

Interesting article on the Roar just prior to the contract bye out... In all honesty from an ethical stance this was a poor act by McGinchy see my comment on the article below. 

http://www.theroar.com.au/2014/09/12/mcglincheys-p...

From the article an interesting quote from Phill Moss

“”I am at least delighted with the arbitration ruling of the FFA because that was a test case for all players’ contracts and it was a massive can of worms that could have exploded if the ruling went the other way. The PFA fought to exploit a loophole, but if we had used that same loophole to release a player, I’m sure they would have jumped all over me and the club.”

My comment on the article is below.

Its reported that weeJudas paid out his contract. 

What has annoyed me most in this is the behaviour of the PFA they have lost a lot of respect I previously had for them.

FIFA rules and procedures which all countries who play under FIFA need comply with state on the sale of a club, clubs cannot not resign players and players walk out on clubs… FFA have similar rules…

The PFA is he had been hurt in Japan and could never have played again would have screamed the Mariners uphold his contract with us. 

The arbitration said the contract stood…

All the time the PFA were arguing and advising the Nux he was free… 

So PFA lets get this straight, a club struggling for money and is entitled to a transfer and yet you advise [wrongly as it turned out] he was free… then appealed to push the matter past most transfer windows and knowing the Mariners had already replaced him and planned to sell the player given he stated he had not faith in the coach and did not want to play for us [that is quite insulting TBH].

Beyond all this and its laughable, he was only six months into his contract when he asked to go and he was loaned out with no fee on the basic he would either return or we could sell him… this is great for future deals, how a player can openly walk away from a commitment like this hhmmm well its says a lot about the player..

NEXT time their is a dispute and a club does something to a player and people say why …. its things like this that harden management ..

Once upon a time I had huge respect for the PFA,… today I have little … they are acting more like a building union than the far sighted organisation they use to be

Just a few clarifications then:

Why did CCM and FFA advise the change of ownership(Entity) to the PFA - will we ever see a reason?

Why were the PFA given dates that this would occur.(Was it because it change contract status of the players?)

Whose advise was it on that CCM players were asked to sign New contracts/acknowledgements of ownership(Entity) change

Why did the FFA wait so long to advise they work on FIFA player contract rules(If the do) 

Doubt we will have these basics answered by a true official statement. But are not mentioned in most arguments as being factors.

(Just a Mechanic with no legal training)