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Ryan Thomas (PEC Zwolle | Netherlands)

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30 Nov 18:31

PEC Zwolle 1-0 RKC  Waalwijk at half time. 

30 Nov 18:58

looks like Thomas picked up a yellow and got subbed at half time



30 Nov 19:44

Subbed at half time, coach not impressed with Ryan today! Zwolle drew 1-1 with the second bottom team in the league. Dropped 2 points. Poor result for them.

30 Nov 20:06

Did coach say that?


02 Dec 23:52

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/former-adelaide-coach-rini-coolen-takes-a-little-piece-of-the-southern-hemisphere-back-to-europe/story-e6frf423-1226773740680

04 Dec 03:57 · edited 04 Dec 03:59 · History

He was subbed because of a groin strain, if you happened to watch the game he was playing rather well. Yellow card had no impact on his substitution what so ever. 

04 Dec 05:32
fener58 wrote:

He was subbed because of a groin strain, if you happened to watch the game he was playing rather well. Yellow card had no impact on his substitution what so ever. 


Yeah I was just going by what the commentator said. He said something along the lines of 'The PEC Zwolle coach has not been impressed so far with their failure to take control of this match and has consequently made the substitution of Ryan Thomas at half time.' (note this is not a direct quote, just what I remember). 
I have watched Ryan Thomas a few times now and have been so impressed with him. He has been great to watch. Only slight criticism is that I saw him talk back and complain to the ref on several occasions and saw him give a few hand gestures directed toward the ref. But then again, this is not an unusual trait for a footballer. Overall he looks like a great prospect for NZF. Deserves an AW call up as he would already be up there with our most talented players, despite only being 18 years old. If I were to compare him to any AW's, he has similar traits to Kosta and Marco.
04 Dec 18:54


I feel like a long lost relative has died and I have inherited their fortune......right now ryan at 18 is streets ahead of marco's situation at the same age.

04 Dec 20:53
robmm1976 wrote:


I feel like a long lost relative has died and I have inherited their fortune......right now ryan at 18 is streets ahead of marco's situation at the same age.

Marco lost most of his first season with us due to injury and then lost his first season at the Victory because of coaching issues. That would have kept his development back a few seasons.
05 Dec 13:04

Just re-signed him till 2018. 4 year deal


05 Dec 19:15
TV wrote:

Just re-signed him till 2018. 4 year deal

That's great news - they obviously believe he has potential (to earn them a decent transfer fee in a couple of seasons lol).
E + R + O

06 Dec 20:40

Question for anyone who knows Ryan's history a bit. He's a fairly attak minded creative player right? So how did he go under Declan edges tiki taka style? Did Declan have much to do with Ryan? Interesting discussion going on in coaching chat threads re Declan maybe not allowing players to express creativity.

Kotahitanga. We are one.

06 Dec 21:31

He had the creativity but Declan wanted him to do it more with passes than ball at feet. Declan is all about the ball doing the work

Grumpy old bastard alert

08 Dec 04:45

Zwolle play the Go Ahead Eagles, at 2:30am tomorrow morning. TAB Watch & Bet has a live stream, if people can't find better.

08 Dec 21:16

Played the full 90m in a 4-1 loss.

10 Dec 05:17

Ryan was always the jewel in Declan's crown. Declan worked with him from age 12 onwards, training daily.

In later years Thomas also lived with him.

Ryan's prime skill was his ability to beat defenders in any manner of ways - many very reminiscent of a young Declan Edge. But it is correct that Declan has always counseled him not to overdo it, and to be unpredictable, mix it up with the dribbling, passing etc.

Funnily enough I bumped into Eddie Edge at the game on Sunday. Eddie reported Zwolle were so impressed they want to know if there is more where-ever Ryan came from.... So they are now sending Harry Edge over as well.








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10 Dec 07:31

Ryan was always the jewel in Declan's crown. Declan worked with him from age 12 onwards, training daily.

In later years Thomas also lived with him.

Ryan's prime skill was his ability to beat defenders in any manner of ways - many very reminiscent of a young Declan Edge. But it is correct that Declan has always counseled him not to overdo it, and to be unpredictable, mix it up with the dribbling, passing etc.

Funnily enough I bumped into Eddie Edge at the game on Sunday. Eddie reported Zwolle were so impressed they want to know if there is more where-ever Ryan came from.... So they are now sending Harry Edge over as well.

Will be interesting to see how that goes then, seeing as CCM didn't pick him up.
10 Dec 10:35

Who else were his boys? Awad, Edge boys, thomas...


10 Dec 15:35 · edited 10 Dec 16:19 · History

Ryan doing so well will certainly focus the attention of Dutch clubs on NZ as a source of young players.

Just been checking out PEC Zwolle's You Tube channel - it's a good one with 15 minute magazine shows posted every week which have match highlights, plus interviews etc.

Anything labelled "Aflevering"  is an episode of the magazine program.

This recent one has an interview with Ryan (not speaking Dutch yet understandably) and his host parents at 10.18 mins: only in the Netherlands do first team players ride a bicycle home from the stadium (as Ryan is filmed doing here - classic!!!):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq7E7uRPKzw

 

PEC Zwolle TV Aflevering 18

     
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All the videos on the PEC Zwolle TV Channel:

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ9ElvawvfGZip6ZtUvo2hQ/videos



Big Pete 65, Christchurch

10 Dec 20:10

Ryan was always the jewel in Declan's crown. Declan worked with him from age 12 onwards, training daily.

In later years Thomas also lived with him.

Ryan's prime skill was his ability to beat defenders in any manner of ways - many very reminiscent of a young Declan Edge. But it is correct that Declan has always counseled him not to overdo it, and to be unpredictable, mix it up with the dribbling, passing etc.

Funnily enough I bumped into Eddie Edge at the game on Sunday. Eddie reported Zwolle were so impressed they want to know if there is more where-ever Ryan came from.... So they are now sending Harry Edge over as well.

Will be interesting to see how that goes then, seeing as CCM didn't pick him up.
Having seen Harry more than a number of times but not since Declan has left Waikato/Melville (and in the life of young footballer, that's a long period of time to grow and change) I don't think he is up to it.

Grumpy old bastard alert

10 Dec 21:09

Should have sent Adam Thomas IMO.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

10 Dec 21:12

Adam Thomas - you actually wonder what his career had been like had he not listened to Declan. I mean, whats the guy doing now?

Grumpy old bastard alert

10 Dec 21:14

I keep asking but nobody answers.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

10 Dec 21:20
Jeff Vader wrote:

Ryan was always the jewel in Declan's crown. Declan worked with him from age 12 onwards, training daily.

In later years Thomas also lived with him.

Ryan's prime skill was his ability to beat defenders in any manner of ways - many very reminiscent of a young Declan Edge. But it is correct that Declan has always counseled him not to overdo it, and to be unpredictable, mix it up with the dribbling, passing etc.

Funnily enough I bumped into Eddie Edge at the game on Sunday. Eddie reported Zwolle were so impressed they want to know if there is more where-ever Ryan came from.... So they are now sending Harry Edge over as well.

Will be interesting to see how that goes then, seeing as CCM didn't pick him up.
Having seen Harry more than a number of times but not since Declan has left Waikato/Melville (and in the life of young footballer, that's a long period of time to grow and change) I don't think he is up to it.

Harry? That's ridiculous. Sad. Just plain nepotism. Btw I hope Zwolle representatives don't get too close and personal with EDDIE!

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

12 Dec 05:12

good on him. I cant wait to see him develop! I havent see any highlights of him, but a dutch friend said hes seen him holds his own.

I have an amazing ability to find my way out of mazes. I'm pathological. 
12 Dec 07:16

Interesting...but yeah good on him

                                                                        COYN    

12 Dec 09:48

Intense photos on the team website.



If we build it, they will come...

12 Dec 09:58

found an interview after his debut game, he scored a goal, gave an assist and got man of match on debut in his teams 4-0 win. 

he starts talking around 50seconds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scOk0FKP-TM



If we build it, they will come...

12 Dec 20:41

Ryan was always the jewel in Declan's crown. Declan worked with him from age 12 onwards, training daily.

In later years Thomas also lived with him.

Ryan's prime skill was his ability to beat defenders in any manner of ways - many very reminiscent of a young Declan Edge. But it is correct that Declan has always counseled him not to overdo it, and to be unpredictable, mix it up with the dribbling, passing etc.

Funnily enough I bumped into Eddie Edge at the game on Sunday. Eddie reported Zwolle were so impressed they want to know if there is more where-ever Ryan came from.... So they are now sending Harry Edge over as well.

 

Next 'big thing' might be the Eastern Subs wunderkid that's getting one-on-one tuition from Billy Harris. But he's still pretty young.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

13 Dec 08:25

Zwolle play Heereveen tomorrow(Saturday) morning   8 am NZT...if you want to watch Ryan play

13 Dec 10:57

May set my alarm for that one, normally its a Monday morning game.

13 Dec 14:31
LondonChris wrote:

found an interview after his debut game, he scored a goal, gave an assist and got man of match on debut in his teams 4-0 win. 

he starts talking around 50seconds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scOk0FKP-TM



The club has a good You Tube channel doesn't it? Best place for match highlights and interviews is the weekly 15 min. magazine program "Aflevering".
 
There's a five minute interview with Ryan at home with his host family on a recent edition of the magazine program.
Each weekly episode is 15 minutes and starts with highlights of the most recent game, followed by interviews.

PEC Zwolle's You Tube channel: Anything labelled "Aflevering"  is an episode of the magazine program.

This recent one has an interview with Ryan (not speaking Dutch yet understandably) and his host parents at 10.18 mins: only in the Netherlands do first team players ride a bicycle home from the stadium (as Ryan is filmed doing here - classic!!!):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq7E7uRPKzw

 

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All of the videos on PEC Zwolle's You Tube Channel:

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ9ElvawvfGZip6ZtUvo2hQ/videos


Big Pete 65, Christchurch

13 Dec 18:58 · edited 13 Dec 18:58 · History
austin10 wrote:

Zwolle play Heereveen tomorrow(Saturday) morning   8 am NZT...if you want to watch Ryan play



Hope its not to exciting a game.....I'm on under 2.5 goals
13 Dec 19:47

Losing 1-0 at ht, after the Zwolle Keeper conceded a penalty with a rash tackle.

13 Dec 19:47
LondonChris wrote:

found an interview after his debut game, he scored a goal, gave an assist and got man of match on debut in his teams 4-0 win. 

he starts talking around 50seconds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scOk0FKP-TM


I love it when the kiwi kids do well overseas. Surely we should look at Ryan for the AWs - if he's playing first divn club football in the Dutch League, he should be good enough to play for the AWs.

13 Dec 20:51

2-1 loss for Zwolle, Thomas picking up a yellow in added time. Showed some nice vision with his passing and looked good on the ball in the parts I saw.

13 Dec 21:05

Ryan doesn't look out of place at all. He is good on the ball and had some lively moments on attack. Considering he is only 18 he has a great future. Dutch Div 1 is a good standard. I always enjoy watching Dutch football....fast and attacking with lots of action.

Zwolle are an OK side but they are lacking up front. They look good until the final third. I thought that they could have used Ryans pace down the flanks a bit more.....they tend to go up the centre quite a lot. They dominated most of that match and then got caught on the break by two through balls.

Ryan will probably end up playing 30+ matches a season. For a youngster its exactly what they need. Rufer and Ridenton at the Nix will probably get half a dozen shots off the bench if they are lucky.......they will never develop unless they get lots of match time.