Hertha were definitely a Western team. There is a chapter in Simon Kuper's Football Against the Enemy about a Hertha fan who lived in the East, and after the wall went up and he couldn't see the team anymore he became obsessed with Western football and supported the West German national team. He got into a lot of trouble with the Stasi for doing things like traveling around communist Europe to watch Bayern and other capitalist teams.
Stefan Marinovic (Unattached FC)
Union Berlin, now that's a proper ex-commie team. Not in the top flight though :(
Unterhaching opened their season with a 0-0 draw away to Holstein Kiel. Marinovic didn't start or make the bench which is surprising considering he is the oldest keeper in the squad (at 22). Hopefully he proves himself in training to get a chance.
Unterhaching also have one of the most successful bobsleigh teams in the world - maybe Stefan will switch codes.
Found some info which shows Stefan has actually played 2 games for Unterhaching II who play in Bayernliga Süd and he has conceded 11 goals. I didn't know it was common for 3 Liga teams to have a reserve team but now I've learnt something. The fact that Unterhaching II are bottom of the table probably makes it look worse so hopefully it doesn't hit his confidence too much.
http://www.transfermarkt.com/stefan-marinovic/leistungsdaten/spieler/120619
http://www.transfermarkt.com/bayernliga-sud/tabelle/wettbewerb/OLB2/saison_id/2014
Stefan was on the bench in Unterhaching's 2-0 win over Dortmund II.
Marinovic started in Unterhaching's 2-1 loss to Hallescher FC.
http://au.soccerway.com/matches/2015/02/14/germany/3-liga/halleschen-fussballclub-e-v/spvgg-unterhaching/1730639/?ICID=HP_MS_109_03
Good News we need one of Gleeson, Stefan, Babalj or the two keepers in the english league 2 to step up and put some pressure on Moss.
Stefan will be the one.
Good News we need one of Gleeson, Stefan, Babalj or the two keepers in the english league 2 to step up and put some pressure on Moss.
Who is Babalj? hes the only one I don't know
I assume he means Basalaj who is at Partick Thistle.
Yes sorry ha I was thinking of the Aussie at Zwolle but yes Basalaj thanks Ryan
Hahah I even googled Babalj and there is another one, who is a Goalkeeper somewhere in europe, but not a kiwi, so I was confused for a bit.
I'm actually surprised he didn't move in the transfer window because of his lack of game time. Michael Zetterer has been their first choice keeper but he's moved to Bremen so I hope that means more game time. Ruml, the other keeper, is only 21 so hopefully Marinovic steps up. I don't know if he was at fault for any of the goals conceded though. He's still young and 3 Liga is not a bad league so I can't see why he can't pressure Moss if he gets more game time.
I'm actually surprised he didn't move in the transfer window because of his lack of game time. Michael Zetterer has been their first choice keeper but he's moved to Bremen so I hope that means more game time. Ruml, the other keeper, is only 21 so hopefully Marinovic steps up. I don't know if he was at fault for any of the goals conceded though. He's still young and 3 Liga is not a bad league so I can't see why he can't pressure Moss if he gets more game time.
Stefan has barely played at any of his three previous clubs the last three seasons, so he won't be too impatient at his new one.
Stefan only signed for Unterhaching in July and will be happy he's getting more of a look in than at his previous club 1860 Munich where he didn't play at all for the first team and only got one game last season with the reserve team in the regional league.
He played only three games in total the previous three seasons for 1860 Munich II, Ismaning and Wehen Wiesbaden:
Stefan started again and kept a clean sheet against Chemnitzer FC. The match ended 0-0. Good stuff. The first time he's played back to back matches in a long time.
Here's highlights from his previous match, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgO_2rn7uiA. He probably came out a bit too early on the second goal but made some good saves throughout the match, even though a few were routine.
Awesome news 3 liga is at least as good as league 1 would give him a call up for the next friendly if he can string some more games together.
SpVgg Unterhaching - Chemnitzer FC highlights. Pretty one sided game by the looks of it.
Awesome news 3 liga is at least as good as league 1 would give him a call up for the next friendly if he can string some more games together.
Not so sure about that, more like League 2/Conference Premier.
Awesome news 3 liga is at least as good as league 1 would give him a call up for the next friendly if he can string some more games together.
Not so sure about that, more like League 2/Conference Premier.
I'd say minimum league 2. Its a strange way of looking at it but England has 20 EPL teams, 24 in the championship and then league 1. Germany has 18 in both B1 and B2. Thats an extra 8 sides not heaps but room for a bit more talent up the top. Germanys population Vs the entire UK is an extra 20 million and then u have the SPL as well. Plenty more money in England though thats for sure.
Awesome news 3 liga is at least as good as league 1 would give him a call up for the next friendly if he can string some more games together.
Not so sure about that, more like League 2/Conference Premier.
I'd say minimum league 2. Its a strange way of looking at it but England has 20 EPL teams, 24 in the championship and then league 1. Germany has 18 in both B1 and B2. Thats an extra 8 sides not heaps but room for a bit more talent up the top. Germanys population Vs the entire UK is an extra 20 million and then u have the SPL as well. Plenty more money in England though thats for sure.
Your right there but the UK has a far easier visa system and more money outside of the top flight them most, even Germany, so many many more foreigners playing in the FL... just look at all the antipodeans here!
Awesome news 3 liga is at least as good as league 1 would give him a call up for the next friendly if he can string some more games together.
Not so sure about that, more like League 2/Conference Premier.
I'd say minimum league 2. Its a strange way of looking at it but England has 20 EPL teams, 24 in the championship and then league 1. Germany has 18 in both B1 and B2. Thats an extra 8 sides not heaps but room for a bit more talent up the top. Germanys population Vs the entire UK is an extra 20 million and then u have the SPL as well. Plenty more money in England though thats for sure.
Your right there but the UK has a far easier visa system and more money outside of the top flight them most, even Germany, so many many more foreigners playing in the FL... just look at all the antipodeans here!
It's much easier for a foreigner to get a visa to play in most European leagues than in England.
Examples include Ryan Thomas in the Netherlands and Bill Tuiloma at Marseilles.
Those two players would struggle to get a visa to play in England due to having no British parent or grandparent (probably) and NZ's low FIFA ranking.
I assume it's relatively easy for a foreigner from even smaller football countries to get a visa to play in Germany too.
In England a foreign player without a British parent or grandparent must be from the top 70 countries in the FIFA rankings (averaged over the previous two years) and have played in (or been selected in squads for) at least 75% of his country's A internationals over the previous two years to get a work visa: "Work permits will only be issued to international football players of the highest calibre who will be able to make a significant contribution to the development of the game of football in the United Kingdom at the highest level."
Ryan Nelsen was initially refused a work visa to play for Blackburn (no British parent or grandparent and the All Whites were outside the top 70 teams in the FIFA rankings) but Blackburn employed canny lawyers to win an appeal by arguing that Blackburn had no local players or eligible foreign players of comparable ability available or affordable to them.
Harry Ngata, the first Maori to play professionally in Britain, only managed to play for Hull City in the early 1990's by obtaining a student visa for a couple of years. He had to leave Britain when it expired.
Most of the Kiwis currently playing professionally in Britain have a British parent or grandparent (Tommy Smith, Chris Wood, Cameron Howieson etc.) or a EU passport (Winston Reid - dual Danish and NZ citizenship)
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Interesting figures on the number of foreigners playing in Germany:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_football_play...
"As of November 2009, there are 249 foreign players in the 1. Bundesliga, resulting in a foreigner ratio of 45%. In the 2. Bundesliga, there are 145 foreign players - a ratio of 31%. In the 3. Bundesliga, the foreigner ratio is 15%."
Not many foreigners in the 3.Bundesliga, so Marinovic is doing very well as one of the mere 15%.
Awesome news 3 liga is at least as good as league 1 would give him a call up for the next friendly if he can string some more games together.
Not so sure about that, more like League 2/Conference Premier.
I'd say minimum league 2. Its a strange way of looking at it but England has 20 EPL teams, 24 in the championship and then league 1. Germany has 18 in both B1 and B2. Thats an extra 8 sides not heaps but room for a bit more talent up the top. Germanys population Vs the entire UK is an extra 20 million and then u have the SPL as well. Plenty more money in England though thats for sure.
Your right there but the UK has a far easier visa system and more money outside of the top flight them most, even Germany, so many many more foreigners playing in the FL... just look at all the antipodeans here!
It's much easier for a foreigner to get a visa to play in most European leagues than in England.
Examples include Ryan Thomas in the Netherlands and Bill Tuiloma at Marseilles.
Those two players would struggle to get a visa to play in England due to having no British parent or grandparent (probably) and NZ's low FIFA ranking.
I assume it's relatively easy for a foreigner from even smaller football countries to get a visa to play in Germany too.
In England a foreign player without a British parent or grandparent must be from the top 70 countries in the FIFA rankings (averaged over the previous two years) and have played in (or been selected in squads for) at least 75% of his country's A internationals over the previous two years to get a work visa: "Work permits will only be issued to international football players of the highest calibre who will be able to make a significant contribution to the development of the game of football in the United Kingdom at the highest level."
Ryan Nelsen was initially refused a work visa to play for Blackburn (no British parent or grandparent and the All Whites were outside the top 70 teams in the FIFA rankings) but Blackburn employed canny lawyers to win an appeal by arguing that Blackburn had no local players or eligible foreign players of comparable ability available or affordable to them.
Harry Ngata, the first Maori to play professionally in Britain, only managed to play for Hull City in the early 1990's by obtaining a student visa for a couple of years. He had to leave Britain when it expired.
Most of the Kiwis currently playing professionally in Britain have a British parent or grandparent (Tommy Smith, Chris Wood, Cameron Howieson etc.) or a EU passport (Winston Reid - dual Danish and NZ citizenship)
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Interesting figures on the number of foreigners playing in Germany:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_football_play...
"As of November 2009, there are 249 foreign players in the 1. Bundesliga, resulting in a foreigner ratio of 45%. In the 2. Bundesliga, there are 145 foreign players - a ratio of 31%. In the 3. Bundesliga, the foreigner ratio is 15%."
Not many foreigners in the 3.Bundesliga, so Marinovic is doing very well as one of the mere 15%.
Good read is this what happened to Payne ? I thought I read that some where... or maybe not ha!
Stefan started in this mornings 1-4 win over Sonnenhof.
Awesome news 3 liga is at least as good as league 1 would give him a call up for the next friendly if he can string some more games together.
Not so sure about that, more like League 2/Conference Premier.
I'd say minimum league 2. Its a strange way of looking at it but England has 20 EPL teams, 24 in the championship and then league 1. Germany has 18 in both B1 and B2. Thats an extra 8 sides not heaps but room for a bit more talent up the top. Germanys population Vs the entire UK is an extra 20 million and then u have the SPL as well. Plenty more money in England though thats for sure.
Your right there but the UK has a far easier visa system and more money outside of the top flight them most, even Germany, so many many more foreigners playing in the FL... just look at all the antipodeans here!
It's much easier for a foreigner to get a visa to play in most European leagues than in England.
Examples include Ryan Thomas in the Netherlands and Bill Tuiloma at Marseilles.
Those two players would struggle to get a visa to play in England due to having no British parent or grandparent (probably) and NZ's low FIFA ranking.
I assume it's relatively easy for a foreigner from even smaller football countries to get a visa to play in Germany too.
In England a foreign player without a British parent or grandparent must be from the top 70 countries in the FIFA rankings (averaged over the previous two years) and have played in (or been selected in squads for) at least 75% of his country's A internationals over the previous two years to get a work visa: "Work permits will only be issued to international football players of the highest calibre who will be able to make a significant contribution to the development of the game of football in the United Kingdom at the highest level."
Ryan Nelsen was initially refused a work visa to play for Blackburn (no British parent or grandparent and the All Whites were outside the top 70 teams in the FIFA rankings) but Blackburn employed canny lawyers to win an appeal by arguing that Blackburn had no local players or eligible foreign players of comparable ability available or affordable to them.
Harry Ngata, the first Maori to play professionally in Britain, only managed to play for Hull City in the early 1990's by obtaining a student visa for a couple of years. He had to leave Britain when it expired.
Most of the Kiwis currently playing professionally in Britain have a British parent or grandparent (Tommy Smith, Chris Wood, Cameron Howieson etc.) or a EU passport (Winston Reid - dual Danish and NZ citizenship)
____________________________________________________________________
Interesting figures on the number of foreigners playing in Germany:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_football_play...
"As of November 2009, there are 249 foreign players in the 1. Bundesliga, resulting in a foreigner ratio of 45%. In the 2. Bundesliga, there are 145 foreign players - a ratio of 31%. In the 3. Bundesliga, the foreigner ratio is 15%."
Not many foreigners in the 3.Bundesliga, so Marinovic is doing very well as one of the mere 15%.
Isn't Marinovic of Croatian descent (Father) and aren't they now part of the EU which would mean he should have access to a EU passport.
Awesome news 3 liga is at least as good as league 1 would give him a call up for the next friendly if he can string some more games together.
Not so sure about that, more like League 2/Conference Premier.
I'd say minimum league 2. Its a strange way of looking at it but England has 20 EPL teams, 24 in the championship and then league 1. Germany has 18 in both B1 and B2. Thats an extra 8 sides not heaps but room for a bit more talent up the top. Germanys population Vs the entire UK is an extra 20 million and then u have the SPL as well. Plenty more money in England though thats for sure.
Your right there but the UK has a far easier visa system and more money outside of the top flight them most, even Germany, so many many more foreigners playing in the FL... just look at all the antipodeans here!
It's much easier for a foreigner to get a visa to play in most European leagues than in England.
Examples include Ryan Thomas in the Netherlands and Bill Tuiloma at Marseilles.
Those two players would struggle to get a visa to play in England due to having no British parent or grandparent (probably) and NZ's low FIFA ranking.
I assume it's relatively easy for a foreigner from even smaller football countries to get a visa to play in Germany too.
In England a foreign player without a British parent or grandparent must be from the top 70 countries in the FIFA rankings (averaged over the previous two years) and have played in (or been selected in squads for) at least 75% of his country's A internationals over the previous two years to get a work visa: "Work permits will only be issued to international football players of the highest calibre who will be able to make a significant contribution to the development of the game of football in the United Kingdom at the highest level."
Ryan Nelsen was initially refused a work visa to play for Blackburn (no British parent or grandparent and the All Whites were outside the top 70 teams in the FIFA rankings) but Blackburn employed canny lawyers to win an appeal by arguing that Blackburn had no local players or eligible foreign players of comparable ability available or affordable to them.
Harry Ngata, the first Maori to play professionally in Britain, only managed to play for Hull City in the early 1990's by obtaining a student visa for a couple of years. He had to leave Britain when it expired.
Most of the Kiwis currently playing professionally in Britain have a British parent or grandparent (Tommy Smith, Chris Wood, Cameron Howieson etc.) or a EU passport (Winston Reid - dual Danish and NZ citizenship)
____________________________________________________________________
Interesting figures on the number of foreigners playing in Germany:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_football_play...
"As of November 2009, there are 249 foreign players in the 1. Bundesliga, resulting in a foreigner ratio of 45%. In the 2. Bundesliga, there are 145 foreign players - a ratio of 31%. In the 3. Bundesliga, the foreigner ratio is 15%."
Not many foreigners in the 3.Bundesliga, so Marinovic is doing very well as one of the mere 15%.
Isn't Marinovic of Croatian descent (Father) and aren't they now part of the EU which would mean he should have access to a EU passport.
Correct you are. I'm a distant cousin of Stefan's through his father's side (which is why I like keeping this page up to date) and Croatia became part of the EU in 2013.Therefore I'd assume he'd have access to a EU passport and not be classed as a foreign player but I may be wrong. I don't know if he has Croatian citizenship as well.
Nope, Croatia is part of the EU now but you still need a work permit (for the UK at least) - EU states can choose to delay implementing the Freedom of Movement clause - which the UK has done until 2020. Which is why Leicester's new Croatian striker needed a work permit to sign for the club: http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/does-Croatia-str...
I found some highlights of SG Sonnenhof Großaspach vs. SpVgg Unterhaching.
Unterhaching lost 4-0 to Arminia Bielefeld who are comfortably sitting at the top of the table. Stefan started the match again.
Arminia Bielefeld vs Unterhaching highlights. I wouldn't say any of the goals were Stefan's fault, just really poor defending that left him with little help.
Well that is an unexpected call up, Rufer's got into Hudson's ear?
You have got to be joking.
Would prefer Basalaj over him, but good luck anyway
Great selection. Stefan is going to prove all you haters wrong. Watch the clean sheets now being racked up. No more trashings by Thailand. Hudson is the man
Started again in the 1-1 draw against Fortuna Koln.
Fortuna Koln vs Unterhaching highlights.
Would prefer Basalaj over him, but good luck anyway
Basalaj's Partick youth team have games scheduled when the All Whites are playing, so maybe it's understandable he wasn't selected this time:
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He's also been on the bench for the first team recently such as vs. Dundee United on 28 February:
http://ptfc.co.uk/teams/senior/seasons/2014-2015/f...
Probably better he sticks around there if he's getting in the first team squad.
Great selection. Stefan is going to prove all you haters wrong. Watch the clean sheets now being racked up. No more trashings by Thailand. Hudson is the man
I thought he was very good for the u-20's in the World Cup in Colombia in 2011 from what I saw on TV.
The impression Hudson gives is he is very meticulous so I wouldn't be surprised if he has spoken to Christian Ziege about his performances and progress in training.
<p>Played the full 90 minutes in the 1-2 loss to Mainz 05 II </p>