Winston Reid (Unattached FC)
At the back they don't have a clue.Green oh dear.
Milner off. Probably the last time he'll be seen in a Villa shirt.
By FRED WOODCOCK - The Dominion Post Last updated 05:00 14/08/2010
Ricki Herbert was targeted by West Ham United manager Avram Grant for a role at the English Premier League club immediately after the World Cup.
Grant, the Israeli who managed Chelsea for the 2007-08 season, interrupted Herbert's week-long family holiday in Hong Kong on the way back from South Africa as he head-hunted the All Whites and Wellington Phoenix mentor for a hands-on coaching role at Upton Park.
It is understood Herbert would have seriously considered the job, meaning his tenure as national and Wellington Phoenix coach would have come to an end, but West Ham, who have had financial difficulties of late, pulled the pin on the role Grant had sought to offer him.
Herbert, New Zealand football's man of the moment, yesterday confirmed that Grant had approached him but a formal offer from the east London club never eventuated.
"There wasn't an offer, there was talk about a potential opportunity but that didn't arise," Herbert told The Dominion Post.
"I know Avram Grant, I've met him, and we've kept that relationship going. It would have been an on-the-grass-type role but it wasn't possible. He couldn't get the job over the line, it wasn't ready to happen there."
Herbert's stocks rose to an alltime high after he guided the unfancied All Whites to three draws at the World Cup, results that drew much attention in the British media.
He has been linked to various parts of the globe since and said it was exciting that an English Premier League manager had been interested in him.
"It's nice to have your name bandied about, so if something happens in the future it happens, but if it doesn't, I'm relaxed."
Asked if he would have taken the job at West Ham had a formal offer been made, Herbert said: "You don't know because it never got that far, but you never know what might happen in the future.
"I've made a decision to stay [in New Zealand] and that's important to me."
Herbert's influence with Grant played a significant part in West Ham's recent signing of All Whites defender Winston Reid, whose transfer from Danish club FC Midtjylland was estimated to be worth more than $8 million.
"Avram's a fantastic guy and he's at an extremely good club," Herbert said. "You need to have relationships at the highest level and to get Winston in there was just brilliant for him and for New Zealand football. We'll continue to talk."
Herbert was also offered a managerial position at club level in South Africa but turned it down to stay in Wellington, where his family, including teenage twins, is settled.
Ad Feedback Meanwhile, he expected to complete contract negotiations with New Zealand Football to extend his tenure as All Whites coach till after the next World Cup campaign "sooner rather than later".
"It's kind of gone backwards and forwards and hopefully we can meet over the weekend and get things sorted."
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sport/football/4024159/West-Ham-manager-wanted-Ricki-Herbert
Ricki Herbert was targeted by West Ham United manager Avram Grant for a role at the English Premier League club immediately after the World Cup.
Grant, the Israeli who managed Chelsea for the 2007-08 season, interrupted Herbert's week-long family holiday in Hong Kong on the way back from South Africa as he head-hunted the All Whites and Wellington Phoenix mentor for a hands-on coaching role at Upton Park.
It is understood Herbert would have seriously considered the job, meaning his tenure as national and Wellington Phoenix coach would have come to an end, but West Ham, who have had financial difficulties of late, pulled the pin on the role Grant had sought to offer him.
Herbert, New Zealand football's man of the moment, yesterday confirmed that Grant had approached him but a formal offer from the east London club never eventuated.
"There wasn't an offer, there was talk about a potential opportunity but that didn't arise," Herbert told The Dominion Post.
"I know Avram Grant, I've met him, and we've kept that relationship going. It would have been an on-the-grass-type role but it wasn't possible. He couldn't get the job over the line, it wasn't ready to happen there."
Herbert's stocks rose to an alltime high after he guided the unfancied All Whites to three draws at the World Cup, results that drew much attention in the British media.
He has been linked to various parts of the globe since and said it was exciting that an English Premier League manager had been interested in him.
"It's nice to have your name bandied about, so if something happens in the future it happens, but if it doesn't, I'm relaxed."
Asked if he would have taken the job at West Ham had a formal offer been made, Herbert said: "You don't know because it never got that far, but you never know what might happen in the future.
"I've made a decision to stay [in New Zealand] and that's important to me."
Herbert's influence with Grant played a significant part in West Ham's recent signing of All Whites defender Winston Reid, whose transfer from Danish club FC Midtjylland was estimated to be worth more than $8 million.
"Avram's a fantastic guy and he's at an extremely good club," Herbert said. "You need to have relationships at the highest level and to get Winston in there was just brilliant for him and for New Zealand football. We'll continue to talk."
Herbert was also offered a managerial position at club level in South Africa but turned it down to stay in Wellington, where his family, including teenage twins, is settled.
Ad Feedback Meanwhile, he expected to complete contract negotiations with New Zealand Football to extend his tenure as All Whites coach till after the next World Cup campaign "sooner rather than later".
"It's kind of gone backwards and forwards and hopefully we can meet over the weekend and get things sorted."
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sport/football/4024159/West-Ham-manager-wanted-Ricki-Herbert
full time 3-0 isnt bad considering the way they played
could have been worse. i seen some good moments from Reid, but lot more bad moments. he will only improve as he gets more time on the pitch
It was blatantly obvious that he has no idea about positioning as a full-back. It was also obvious that the poor bloke was hit by a footballing steam-train.
Some good and bad for Reid. Like the rest of his team mates. Mostly bad to be fair.
Like others i can't understand why he was played at right back.
He struggled with Carew when he moved to the middle.
Will he play in the next game? I say yes.
Like others i can't understand why he was played at right back.
He struggled with Carew when he moved to the middle.
Will he play in the next game? I say yes.
Some good and bad for Reid. Like the rest of his team mates. Mostly bad to be fair.
Like others i can't understand why he was played at right back.
He struggled with Carew when he moved to the middle.
Will he play in the next game? I say yes.
Like others i can't understand why he was played at right back.
He struggled with Carew when he moved to the middle.
Will he play in the next game? I say yes.
From the Guardian site, at the end of the match report, they have a fans comment. Not too bad for Reid.
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HAMISH MACKAY, Over Land and Sea If Avram Grant didn't know how difficult his job was this season, he does now. We were completely outplayed. Villa could have scored six or seven and we were lucky to get nil. We were that bad. Our players looked like they had never met each other � just like we played for most of last season in fact � while Villa always had an out-ball. They came at us from the start and used the width really well, whereas we didn't get wide at all. None of the new boys shone but we were collectively so poor that it was difficult for them. Our best player was probably Green. He got a lot of stick from the Villa fans, as you would expect, but he did not do much wrong.
The fan's player ratings Green 7; Reid 6, Tomkins 4 (Diamanti 72 4), Upson 6, Ilunga 4; Parker 6, Kovac 4 (Piquionne ht 6); Noble 5; Faubert 5, Boa Morte 4 (Barrera ht 5), Cole 5
Yea, West Ham fans seem to be bagging others (like Tomkins) a lot more than Reid.
"None of the new boys shone but we were collectively so poor that it was difficult for them."
Good to see Reid isn't getting the blame.
Good to see Reid isn't getting the blame.
Well according to those rankings Reid was the second-equal best player for the Hammers. 
if tomkins is scapegoat then Reid may be able to slot in at preferred CB spot
Phew, Reid had an average-to-poor game but somebody else is the scapegoat.
Poor reid. lucky the ref didn't blow for any of his pens. Hel come good he just looked like a nervous reck and i doesnt help when ur keeper is even more of a nervous reck and team cant string 5 passes together.
He was one of their best players with the ball (passed to feet, didn't put his team-mates in impossible positions), which probably helped his rating, and kept him from being a focus of the criticism.
Great to see him starting though!
He was one of their best players with the ball (passed to feet, didn't put his team-mates in impossible positions), which probably helped his rating, and kept him from being a focus of the criticism.
are you being serious he gave it away alot and just hoofed it up field.
first half he was accurate with the ball and found players under pressure. second half he was astray.
I watched it pretty carefully. nobody in west ham shirt played well although carlton cole did alright
Needs to play CB if he wants to have a chance at succeeding in the Prem league. Bit worrying how Carew bossed him, though - I think he's a little bit small.
He was one of their best players with the ball (passed to feet, didn't put his team-mates in impossible positions), which probably helped his rating, and kept him from being a focus of the criticism.
are you being serious he gave it away alot and just hoofed it up field.
Like Marius said, he was decent in the first half, and he did hoof it a bit in the second half but that was the best option most of the time. He was the only West Ham defender who seemed to want to avoid the long ball.
Carew is an absolute menace. Grant will know that Reid is a centre back. but West Ham have a problem a right back and Reid was probably seen as good an option as any other. when faubert dropped in at right back when reid went into the middle for the last 20 he got skinned several times. TOmkins had a poor game at CB and got subbed so Reid might get a crack there.
it will be differet at home against bolton next week. they wont be under the ridiculous kosh like last night
Ilunga was leaky on the other flank too. I remember wincing twice when Reid gave away possession with poor passes but every West Ham player was as guilty of that as he was. Considering it was his first game at this level it was a creditable effort. He certainly didn't look like a nervous wreck to me.
Carew is an absolute menace. Grant will know that Reid is a centre back. but West Ham have a problem a right back and Reid was probably seen as good an option as any other. when faubert dropped in at right back when reid went into the middle for the last 20 he got skinned several times. TOmkins had a poor game at CB and got subbed so Reid might get a crack there.
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it will be differet at home against bolton next week. they wont be under the ridiculous kosh like last night
Kevin Davies is a pretty diffcult opponent though
yeh
easy to look confident when you know Ryan Nelsen's got your back...
easy to look confident when you know Ryan Nelsen's got your back...
Wait till he has a decent side to defend against.
http://www.whufc.com/articles/20100814/grant-expecting-much-better_2236884_2123002
Grant seems to think Winston had a "Good" first showing for the Hammers... and will become a very good player for them. There is some good news !!!
http://www.whufc.com/articles/20100814/grant-expecting-much-better_2236884_2123002
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Grant seems to think Winston had a "Good" first showing for the Hammers... and will become a very good player for them. There is some good news !!!
although he had some bad moments, and to be honest we proli noticed more because we were focusing on Reid and him alone. he also showed promise at other times, the more experience he gets the better he will be. could turn into a great player, i seen enough to think he will get another start against bolton
yes, but where? at RB or CB? if Grant drops Tomkins he will destroy his confidence too.
I must say I think Upson should have taken responsibility to mark Carew. He is the big, strong England centre-back but he left that job to the two youngsters in Tomkins and Reid while he dropped off and drfit about behind.
Davies is a difficult customer but not as awkward as Carew
He was about the only hammers player stringing a pass together in the first half. Wasn't an easy game to begin your EPL life with.
Will take more than that game to judge.
thought it was a promising start, while he didnt play particuarly well, none of the west ham players did. I imagine he will keep his place in the starting XI for at least the next week or two, whether it be at RB or CB.
I am not sure where the Swiss Beckham (Behrami) was on Saturday, but I imagine that if he is available next weekend, he will play right midfield, while Faubert will play right back. That puts Reid against De Costa, Ben Hiem and Tompkins to be the other centre back (assuming that they are all fit).
I am not sure where the Swiss Beckham (Behrami) was on Saturday, but I imagine that if he is available next weekend, he will play right midfield, while Faubert will play right back. That puts Reid against De Costa, Ben Hiem and Tompkins to be the other centre back (assuming that they are all fit).
Faubert to RB again? Fkn hope not!!!
I think Reid will be given another chance and Tomkins only started because of Da Costa being injured (I presume). Hitzlsperger should be back this weekend so hopefully that will make a difference. Whats up with Dyer? He played about 60 minutes of one preseason game and hasn't played since. Havent heard anything about an injury. I think he should be given the chance to start ahead of Faubert.
Sounds like he played OK on debut in a crap West Ham side
dropped to the bench, but so was mst the defence
winston entered the game in the 55th after upson injury and had a good scoring chance on a corner
How did he play apart from that? Saw that Bolton scored 3 after the 55th min so i'm guessing badly?valeo2010-08-22 03:57:23
Yeah how'd he go? came on at 1-0 i think 3-1 now
anth1832010-08-22 03:57:51
sounds like he did ok on the west ham message boards
from the west ham forums....
Two things that occured from the highlights:
1. Pablo Barrera needs to think quicker. Cole's shot, palmed away, Barrera cuts inside instead of reading the path of the ball. Needs to be shown that next week.
2. Winston Reid should be shot if he ever turns his back on a shot inside the six-yard box again.
1. Pablo Barrera needs to think quicker. Cole's shot, palmed away, Barrera cuts inside instead of reading the path of the ball. Needs to be shown that next week.
2. Winston Reid should be shot if he ever turns his back on a shot inside the six-yard box again.
I think thats the goal. hes number 2.
meanchicken2010-08-22 11:00:20
http://football.fanhouse.co.uk/2010/08/20/west-ham-v-bolton-preview-martin-petrov-poised-to-test-winston/
New right back Reid, signed after a successful World Cup with New Zealand, was included from the start but looked particularly out of his depth.
He has a job to win West Ham fans over, as the prevailing post-match opinion was he was even worse than Tomas Repka at his nadir � which for those with short memories is stinging criticism indeed.
New right back Reid, signed after a successful World Cup with New Zealand, was included from the start but looked particularly out of his depth.
He has a job to win West Ham fans over, as the prevailing post-match opinion was he was even worse than Tomas Repka at his nadir � which for those with short memories is stinging criticism indeed.