Winston Reid (Unattached FC)
A goal and an assist, very good day for Winnie !!
http://www.footytube.com/video/west-ham-united-millwall-feb04-103804?ref=lchan_vidgrid
Yeah it's a great hit, but i'm surprised it wasn't whistled up for a foul on the keeper.
Yeah it's a great hit, but i'm surprised it wasn't whistled up for a foul on the keeper.
Very good goal, took it well ,no foul on the keeper ,you can see that from the camera angle that's taken from behind the goalkeeper!
Interesting how the commentator changed nationality during the clip as well !
Sounds like another solid defensive display by Reid in yesterday's 1-1 home draw with second placed Southampton, accomplished with ten men for 70 minutes of the match.
Reid seems to be a goal-scoring threat in most games these days too. Gets himself into some good attacking positions- had his chances this time too, blasting a shot over from 8 yards from a corner in the 8th minute:
"Just like Kevin Nolan's last week, Taylor's dismissal was utterly needless. His side were well on top, with Ricardo Vaz Te and Winston Reid going close..."
Big Pete 652012-02-16 15:11:23
Another full 90 in the 0-0 draw with Palace. Reid again "denied by the palace keeper" late in the game.
Managed to find a good stream for the Hammers game last night. Reid has a pretty shocking first half. But pulled it together well in the second. Had two decent heading opportunities offensively, and also made good contact with a volley which was blocked by a defender. Played well in the second half.
general consensus from the West Ham fans was that he was terrible yesterday
According to WHU forums... Reid was injured by a challenge from Jamaica's Ben SigmUnd. hahaha.
Reid not starting or on the bench yesterday, and his direct competition for the centre back spot (Faye) played very well. Now that Nolan is back from suspension, Tompkins will return to centre back so Reid may struggle to get his position back for a while.
In the programme notes last night, Fat Sam said that Nolan was probably not going to start against Cardiff, but Reid returned from NZ with an injury. With Nolan scoring and playing well in that game, and Faye doing well at centre back, it could be tough for Reid to get his place back. He wasn't on the bench last night, so not sure if still injured or out of the squad now (we have a lot of players coming back from injury).
But it was all worth it for that vital game against a below strength Jamaican side 18 months before our next proper competitive game.
Oh ffs. He could have just as easily banged his head snorting coke off the glass table in a prostitute's flat.
sh*t happens. Get over it.
But it was all worth it for that vital game against a below strength Jamaican side 18 months before our next proper competitive game.
Well, the Jamaica game will probably lead to a change in the backline shape (Ricki himself has said that the back 3 time may be over), and gave Ricki the opportunity to see how some of the younger players in the squad look when called upon to be the leading lights of the team.
In essence, the game (combined with the other friendlies over the last 18 months) has turned up some lessons that hopefully the team management will learn from, and put the All Whites in better shape to qualify for the World Cup.
Yeah that too.
In the programme notes last night, Fat Sam said that Nolan was probably not going to start against Cardiff, but Reid returned from NZ with an injury.� With Nolan scoring and playing well in that game, and Faye doing well at centre back, it could be tough for Reid to get his place back. He wasn't on the bench last night, so not sure if still injured or out of the squad now (we have a lot of players coming back from injury).
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But it was all worth it for that vital game against a below strength Jamaican side 18 months before our next proper competitive game.
Yes you idiot.
Oh ffs. He could have just as easily banged his head snorting coke off the glass table in a prostitute's flat.
sh*t happens. Get over it.
He could also have broken his leg chasing a block of cheese down a hill, and that would have been a f**king stupid thing to do.
But it was all worth it for that vital game against a below strength Jamaican side 18 months before our next proper competitive game.
Well, the Jamaica game will probably lead to a change in the backline shape (Ricki himself has said that the back 3 time may be over), and gave Ricki the opportunity to see how some of the younger players in the squad look when called upon to be the leading lights of the team.
In essence, the game (combined with the other friendlies over the last 18 months) has turned up some lessons that hopefully the team management will learn from, and put the All Whites in better shape to qualify for the World Cup.
Lessons that could have been learnt in fixtures over the summer, or even next season, 3 or 6 months before the 2 competitive fixtures that the team will have prior to 2014.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/sport/football/sam-allardyce-at-his-age-andre-villasboas-never-stood-a-chance-of-overseeing-chelseas-transition-7546544.htm
Big Sam having a tanty in his column in todays Evening Standard (half way down)
Big Sam having a tanty in his column in todays Evening Standard (half way down)
^^^ here it is. would not have whimpered I suspect if nothing happened. Was clumsy by Reid it seemed to me.
"I want to �Reid� riot act to Kiwis
"I want to �Reid� riot act to Kiwis
I have a great deal of respect and admiration for New Zealand after their achievement of reaching the last World Cup.
I know a lot about them because my player liaison officer from Blackburn, Matt Hockin, went with them to South Africa to help and their captain was Ryan Nelsen, who was my skipper for a time at Ewood Park.
They must have made enough money out of that adventure to last them a lifetime so I would ask them: why drag my player Winston Reid 23 hours on a plane to face Jamaica in a tin?pot friendly and put his career at risk?
Most of these friendless are arranged to keep the revenue streams flowing but they had just made enough money to keep them going for 10 years.
If it was a qualifying game then no argument but a meaningless friendly?
In the event, Winston sustained some concussion, we�ve missed him for a couple of games and now I�m desperate for cover and the loan system is the only process available to me.
I would say they were very selfish. The bottom line is that we pay the player, not the New Zealand Football Association, and it�s unfair that an asset of that size is put on the line in a friendly like this, when we are the ones who pay the consequences."
I don't think NZ Football got enough money for to keep them going for 10 years.
But it was all worth it for that vital game against a below strength Jamaican side 18 months before our next proper competitive game.
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Lessons that could have been learnt in fixtures over the summer, or even next season, 3 or 6 months before the 2 competitive fixtures that the team will have prior to 2014.
It has been repeatedly pointed out here that there is very few international windows in a four-year cycle which New Zealand can use to play decent opposition in a friendly.
^^^� here it is. would not have whimpered I suspect if nothing happened. Was clumsy by Reid it seemed to me."I want to �Reid� riot act to Kiwis
I have a great deal of respect and admiration for New Zealand after their achievement of reaching the last World Cup.
I
know a lot about them because my player liaison officer from Blackburn,
Matt Hockin, went with them to South Africa to help and their captain
was Ryan Nelsen, who was my skipper for a time at Ewood Park.
They
must have made enough money out of that adventure to last them a
lifetime so I would ask them: why drag my player Winston Reid 23 hours
on a plane to face Jamaica in a tin?pot friendly and put his career at
risk?
Most of these friendless are arranged to keep the revenue
streams flowing but they had just made enough money to keep them going
for 10 years.
If it was a qualifying game then no argument but a meaningless friendly?
In
the event, Winston sustained some concussion, we�ve missed him for a
couple of games and now I�m desperate for cover and the loan system is
the only process available to me.
I would say they were very
selfish. The bottom line is that we pay the player, not the New Zealand
Football Association, and it�s unfair that an asset of that size is put
on the line in a friendly like this, when we are the ones who pay the
consequences."
Bottom line - you sign an international player, you have to live with this. So deal with it.
But it was all worth it for that vital game against a below strength Jamaican side 18 months before our next proper competitive game.
Lessons that could have been learnt in fixtures over the summer, or even next season, 3 or 6 months before the 2 competitive fixtures that the team will have prior to 2014.
It has been repeatedly pointed out here that there is very few international windows in a four-year cycle which New Zealand can use to play decent opposition in a friendly.
and that Jamaican team is what we consider decent opposition?
Well, it's better than the alternatives - Island teams and such. Plus it's quite possible we could be playing them or someone similar come the World Cup playoff time.
Saw on Twitter today thay David Gold (WHU chairman) was saying that Reid may be out for the seaon. Now if anyone here believes that him going back to play a completely pointless game was better for NZ football than having him play 10 games in the Championship, then I want to hear their logic
Well, it's better than the alternatives - Island teams and such. Plus it's quite possible we could be playing them or someone similar come the World Cup playoff time.
so because Jamaica are better than most teams that want to play us it is worth risking the careers of our players at professional clubs?
I also imagine that the team we play in the WC playoff will be nothing like the team we played the other week
w**ker
by the way, you're a w**ker.
Or the same thing could have happened the next time he played for West Ham. Or he could have slipped in the shower and banged his head that way. It's just life, things like that happen.
Or the same thing could have happened the next time he played for West Ham. Or he could have slipped in the shower and banged his head that way. It's just life, things like that happen.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=terminator_x]Oh ffs. He could have just as easily banged his head snorting coke off the glass table in a prostitute's flat.
sh*t happens. Get over it.
He could also have broken his leg chasing a block of cheese down a hill, and that would have been a f**king stupid thing to do.
why put a professional sportsperson in a situation that can damage his career when there is no actual benefit for him?
Well, it's better than the alternatives - Island teams and such. Plus it's quite possible we could be playing them or someone similar come the World Cup playoff time.
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so because Jamaica are better than most teams that want to play us it is worth risking the careers of our players at professional clubs?
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I also imagine that the team we play in the WC playoff will be nothing like the team we played the other week
Well, professional athletes put their careers on the line every time they step on the field, that's the nature of the job.
You're probably right on the second point, but our team could well be different too.
why put a professional sportsperson in a situation that can damage his career when there is no actual benefit for him?
What, asking a professional sportsperson to do what he does for a living is a situation that can potentially damage his career?
And of course there's a benefit to him, without his international appearances for New Zealand it would have been difficult for him to get a work permit in the UK. Plus, being an international gives him more leverage in contract negotiations, since players with such experience can use it to get higher wages/bonuses than they would have otherwise been able to get without such experience.
Well, it's better than the alternatives - Island teams and such. Plus it's quite possible we could be playing them or someone similar come the World Cup playoff time.
so because Jamaica are better than most teams that want to play us it is worth risking the careers of our players at professional clubs?
I also imagine that the team we play in the WC playoff will be nothing like the team we played the other week
Well, professional athletes put their careers on the line every time they step on the field, that's the nature of the job.
You're probably right on the second point, but our team could well be different too.
on your first point, yes they do - but they tend to do it in an envirorment that is relative to their situation. If you watch an enlish league reserve game, players tend not to be flying in trying to break each other (in my experience). When you are making a professional footballer fly 24,000 miles in 5 days to play in a game of football involving about 20 amatuer player, I cannot see the benefit.
why put a professional sportsperson in a situation that can damage his career when there is no actual benefit for him?
What, asking a professional sportsperson to do what he does for a living is a situation that can potentially damage his career?
And of course there's a benefit to him, without his international appearances for New Zealand it would have been difficult for him to get a work permit in the UK. Plus, being an international gives him more leverage in contract negotiations, since players with such experience can use it to get higher wages/bonuses than they would have otherwise been able to get without such experience.
Right, we are having about 3 different arguements at once, and I'm drunk, so this is getting confusing.
Having said that, without his international appearances for New Zealand it would have been difficult for him to get a work permit in the UK??????? He had 4 caps for NZ when he signed for West Ham. I am sure that was massive for him.
Frankie Mac2012-03-10 12:34:39
Plus, being an international gives him more leverage in contract negotiations, since players with such experience can use it to get higher wages/bonuses than they would have otherwise been able to get without such experience.
Also, I don't think that there is a massive leverage for him as an international for NZ. "Hi, I want more wages and bonuses as I am an international for New Zealand. By the way, I will have to f**k off all the way around the world to play mickey mouse friendlies against countries that you have probably never heard of every international window."
Well, the geographical isolation is a problem for NZ, which is why the All Whites don't play in NZ all that much in the first place. But it's precisely because of this rarity that these games are important for New Zealand football, on many different levels.
It's actually quite important to have the players play together as often as possible so that when the big games come around we're not looking like a bunch of muppets for whom it takes 45 minutes just to figure out what they're supposed to be doing on the field. I mean, the All Whites have played 6 games since the World Cup, Jamaica (and any other potential play-off opponent) have probably played that many in the last 5-6 months. And that's a massive advantage to concede from the start.
It's actually quite important to have the players play together as often as possible so that when the big games come around we're not looking like a bunch of muppets for whom it takes 45 minutes just to figure out what they're supposed to be doing on the field. I mean, the All Whites have played 6 games since the World Cup, Jamaica (and any other potential play-off opponent) have probably played that many in the last 5-6 months. And that's a massive advantage to concede from the start.
� Plus, being an international gives him more leverage in contract negotiations, since players with such experience can use it to get higher wages/bonuses than they would have otherwise been able to get without such experience.
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Also, I don't think that there is a massive leverage for him as an international for NZ.� "Hi, I want more wages and bonuses as I am an international for New Zealand.� By the way, I will have to f**k off all the way around the world to play mickey mouse friendlies against countries that you have probably never heard of every international window."
Or, "Hi, I was part of the team that went undefeated at the last World Cup, played every minute in the backline that only conceded one goal from open play in 270 minutes of football, and scored a vital equalising goal in stoppage time in that same tournament, and all this at the age of 22. So you're not signing any run-of-the-mill 22-year old here."el grapadura2012-03-10 12:44:29
why put a professional sportsperson in a situation that can damage his career when there is no actual benefit for him?
What, asking a professional sportsperson to do what he does for a living is a situation that can potentially damage his career?
And of course there's a benefit to him, without his international appearances for New Zealand it would have been difficult for him to get a work permit in the UK. Plus, being an international gives him more leverage in contract negotiations, since players with such experience can use it to get higher wages/bonuses than they would have otherwise been able to get without such experience.
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Right, we are having about 3 different arguements at once, and I'm drunk, so this is getting confusing.
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Having said that, without his international appearances for New Zealand it would have been difficult for him to get a work permit in the UK??????? He had 4 caps for NZ when he signed for West Ham.� I am sure that was massive for him.
Well, it's a requirement in England when signing non-EU players that they had played in 75% games for their international team in a set period. So those caps he got playing for New Zealand in 2010 certainly helped him a long way to getting the work permit to play in England.
Plus, being an international gives him more leverage in contract negotiations, since players with such experience can use it to get higher wages/bonuses than they would have otherwise been able to get without such experience.
Also, I don't think that there is a massive leverage for him as an international for NZ. "Hi, I want more wages and bonuses as I am an international for New Zealand. By the way, I will have to f**k off all the way around the world to play mickey mouse friendlies against countries that you have probably never heard of every international window."
Or, "Hi, I was part of the team that went undefeated at the last World Cup, played every minute in the backline that only conceded one goal from open play in 270 minutes of football, and scored a vital equalising goal in stoppage time in that same tournament, and all this at the age of 22. So you're not signing any run-of-the-mill 22-year old here."
And playing flying back to play these game against Jamaica will help to keep this relevant
It's not like he's doing it every month, though, is it? Other internationals at West Ham (which I'm sure Big Sam is aware of, but with him you never know I guess) are off playing internationals pretty much every month of the year, thereby exposing themselves to career ending injuries while poor West Ham has to pay their wages (clearly he's never heard of a thing called insurance).