Groundskeeper Willie
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over 16 years

I don't agree. United need someone better than him to steer the ship from the back. T

First Team Squad
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over 17 years

I think some people underestimate what playing for United is. All United forums have basically laughed at the suggestion to sign Reid. No one at all wants him. If he played for us he would get castigated for letting RvP score a goal like that.

If we did need another defender, why would we go for Reid? Players like Vlaar, Inigo Martinez, Nicolas Otamendi or Joel Matip. All of those players would be good squadies, relatively easy to obtain and probably better than Reid.

Even if it was a good move for Man U, I can't see why it would be a good move for Reid.

Groundskeeper Willie
700
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7.5K
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over 16 years

We have plenty of CBs with his ability, granted most with less experience but we need one player to sure up the defense and it's not him IMO. 

Phoenix Academy
240
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360
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almost 11 years

Ryan54 wrote:

I think some people underestimate what playing for United is. All United forums have basically laughed at the suggestion to sign Reid. No one at all wants him. If he played for us he would get castigated for letting RvP score a goal like that.

If we did need another defender, why would we go for Reid? Players like Vlaar, Inigo Martinez, Nicolas Otamendi or Joel Matip. All of those players would be good squadies, relatively easy to obtain and probably better than Reid.

Even if it was a good move for Man U, I can't see why it would be a good move for Reid.

As opposed to the awesome defence who played so well last season and against Leicester 2 weeks ago? All I'm saying is that Man U's defence is currently rubbish and in my opinion Reid is a better player than most of the ones there at the moment. There are most definitely better defenders than Reid as well, but he sure as hell is better than Evans and Blackett, among others

Phoenix Academy
240
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360
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almost 11 years

Ryan54 wrote:

I think some people underestimate what playing for United is. All United forums have basically laughed at the suggestion to sign Reid. No one at all wants him. If he played for us he would get castigated for letting RvP score a goal like that.

If we did need another defender, why would we go for Reid? Players like Vlaar, Inigo Martinez, Nicolas Otamendi or Joel Matip. All of those players would be good squadies, relatively easy to obtain and probably better than Reid.

Even if it was a good move for Man U, I can't see why it would be a good move for Reid.

As opposed to the awesome defence who played so well last season and against Leicester 2 weeks ago? All I'm saying is that Man U's defence is currently rubbish and in my opinion Reid is a better player than most of the ones there at the moment. There are most definitely better defenders than Reid as well, but he sure as hell is better than Evans and Blackett, among others

Trialist
14
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91
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over 15 years

Ryan54 wrote:

I think some people underestimate what playing for United is. All United forums have basically laughed at the suggestion to sign Reid. No one at all wants him. If he played for us he would get castigated for letting RvP score a goal like that.

If we did need another defender, why would we go for Reid? Players like Vlaar, Inigo Martinez, Nicolas Otamendi or Joel Matip. All of those players would be good squadies, relatively easy to obtain and probably better than Reid.

Even if it was a good move for Man U, I can't see why it would be a good move for Reid.

Some of the utd forums are full of delusional idiots who think nobodys any good unless you pay 50 or 60 million pounds for them,the bottom line is with ffp rules now we are unlikely to be spending huge money on a defender in january unless we get money for,Nani,Hernandez,Cleverly and maybe a couple of others.Otamendi is being quoted around 40 million pounds,Im not sure hes that good,Vlaar is nearly 30 and likely to be overpriced being from an English club.Martinez looks a little on the short side to me but may be worth pursuing and you would have to convince Matip to give up champions league to come and then have him go straight to the African cup in january.Im not saying there arent better defenders out there than Reid but at least he knows the league,speaks the language,would be cheap and very rarely has international duty,if we can someone better then great but if not its worth considering at least,imo.
Starting XI
290
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4.7K
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over 17 years

Hammers are 4th after being written off by so many in the friendlies here. LOL

Legend
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15K
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about 17 years

Rumours Reid is tipped to sign for a top four club:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/10651913/Win...

Starting XI
120
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4.1K
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over 17 years

I'm one million percent sure that every paper in this country has a Winston Reid linked to big club story saved for days when faff all else happens. Literally three a week. I'm sure it's all self-perpetuating as well. Everyone is reporting the rumour now and no one seems particularly sure where the rumour started.

valeo
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Legend
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18K
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over 17 years

Yeah ,it's all bs. He has been linked to Arsenal for about 2-3 years now with no actual solid links at all. 

He's quite obviously just angling for a better contract at West Ham.

First Team Squad
500
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1.9K
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over 17 years

That's my impression too. I think this rumour has been started by NZ press and then the English press have picked up on it.

Legend
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15K
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about 17 years

Hah. So no one, errr, clicked on the link then? With all due respect to Arsenal, I said a top 4 club.

valeo
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Legend
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18K
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over 17 years

martinb wrote:

Hah. So no one, errr, clicked on the link then? With all due respect to Arsenal, I said a top 4 club.

Touche

Marquee
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9.5K
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almost 13 years

As Hepatitis pointed out above, he's already at a top 4 club

Lawyerish
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5.1K
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over 13 years

Saying all that if he let his contract run down and there is no transfer fee, he would be a good piece of business for any premiership club

HZA
Marquee
630
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5.9K
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about 15 years

I hope he stays with West Ham

Marquee
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over 11 years

hamezilla wrote:

I hope he stays with West Ham

Been offered a "substantial" pay rise.

Marquee
880
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7.3K
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over 17 years

there were some stories about pressure being being on him to sign with an agent that represents Fat Sam and the majority of the players he has worked with on a number of occassions over the years - Nolan, O'Brien, Carroll, Jaaskelainen, etc.  Similar stories were out there about Ravel Morrison as well. Not sure if true, or if it is just the fact that Reid wants £60k, and the club (at this stage) do not want to pay it. With his contract up at the end of the season, he would be a decent cheap signing for someone in Jan.

Phoenix Academy
22
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220
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over 11 years
valeo
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Legend
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18K
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over 17 years

not good; our only player apart from Thomas playing consistently at a high level ; needs to be there for the friendlies

Phoenix Academy
150
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400
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over 12 years

Annoying to be behind paywall, but get the jist of it

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/6059864/Winston-Reid-set-for-huge-new-West-Ham-deal.html

Marquee
970
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6.5K
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over 11 years

Woo hoo! $150,000 p/week  for six years! Eat that Dan Carter & R McCaw!

WeeNix
170
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550
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over 11 years

who would have thought it would come to this after that first match out of position against Villa?

Marquee
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6.5K
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over 11 years

robmm1976 wrote:

who would have thought it would come to this after that first match out of position against Villa?

Wonder if Downing still teases him about it? Playing Villa this weekend too.

valeo
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Legend
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18K
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over 17 years

Remember watching that - it was a complete trainwreck. Them getting relegated was the best thing that happened to him.

WeeNix
170
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550
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over 11 years

it ain't a done deal by any stretch....Winston wants European football

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/west-hams-contract-talks-with-winston-reid-are-not-progressing-9841181.html

WeeNix
57
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830
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over 13 years

Jerzy Merino wrote:

Woo hoo! $150,000 p/week  for six years! Eat that Dan Carter & R McCaw!

This is one of the reasons I have no interest in the EPL. What a ludicrous amount of money for a football player.  

WeeNix
57
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830
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over 13 years

This is no sleight on WR. Just my opinion on the outrageous money involved in English football. Workingmans game??!! Who can afoord to go to an EPL game?

WeeNix
150
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950
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about 13 years

alireggae wrote:

Jerzy Merino wrote:

Woo hoo! $150,000 p/week  for six years! Eat that Dan Carter & R McCaw!

This is one of the reasons I have no interest in the EPL. What a ludicrous amount of money for a football player.  

Says who?
Cock
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16K
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about 15 years

It absolutely is out of whack. There people that play far more meaningful roles in society and yet Winston makes in a week what they make in a year....

WeeNix
57
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830
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over 13 years

threatD wrote:

alireggae wrote:

Jerzy Merino wrote:

Woo hoo! $150,000 p/week  for six years! Eat that Dan Carter & R McCaw!

This is one of the reasons I have no interest in the EPL. What a ludicrous amount of money for a football player.  

Says who?

Me - It's my opinion.

valeo
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Legend
4.7K
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18K
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over 17 years

Supply and demand etc.

There's enough money in the game to justify it. Is the same reason hollywood stars get more than brain surgeons..

Marquee
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8.2K
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about 17 years

valeo wrote:

Supply and demand etc.

There's enough money in the game to justify it. Is the same reason hollywood stars get more than brain surgeons..

This. It's a capitalism problem, not a football one.
Cock
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16K
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about 15 years
Marquee
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9.5K
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almost 13 years

And as football fans we are all part of creating that demand...

Head Sleuth
3K
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19K
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over 17 years

indeed. People say "who can afford an EPL ticket" but something like 95% of EPL tickets have sold this season. 

Phoenix Academy
13
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160
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about 11 years

alireggae wrote:

Jerzy Merino wrote:

Woo hoo! $150,000 p/week  for six years! Eat that Dan Carter & R McCaw!

This is one of the reasons I have no interest in the EPL. What a ludicrous amount of money for a football player.  

It is a ludicrous amount of money, the reality is there are plenty of footballers getting more than that!

Marquee
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5.3K
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about 17 years

Tegal wrote:

indeed. People say "who can afford an EPL ticket" but something like 95% of EPL tickets have sold this season. 

Yeah, it's ok to treat fans as cash cows. *Insert obligatory Bundesliga link here*

It is rather sickening though, how much money is involved in sport. When it gets to the top levels it all become rather abstract, players like Rooney wanting 300k/week instead of 250k/week - that 50k/week is not going to make much if any difference to his quality of life but could be hugely beneficial to hundreds of families in the UK or probably thousands in poorer nations. What amount of good could be done if we valued other people as much as we value sport.

WeeNix
57
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830
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over 13 years

Bullion wrote:

Tegal wrote:

indeed. People say "who can afford an EPL ticket" but something like 95% of EPL tickets have sold this season. 

Yeah, it's ok to treat fans as cash cows. *Insert obligatory Bundesliga link here*

It is rather sickening though, how much money is involved in sport. When it gets to the top levels it all become rather abstract, players like Rooney wanting 300k/week instead of 250k/week - that 50k/week is not going to make much if any difference to his quality of life but could be hugely beneficial to hundreds of families in the UK or probably thousands in poorer nations. What amount of good could be done if we valued other people as much as we value sport.

If players weren't paid so much ticket prices would be less so goes beyond supply and demand. Also the main revenue stream is surely TV rights so surely ticket prices can be subsidised.

Marquee
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9.5K
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almost 13 years
Why should footballers be picked on for this though. What about the massively excessive amounts of money earned by bankers even when theycost everyday people their life savings through reckless business practices? What about executives and shareholders for electronics companies which use sweatshop labour and source rare earth metals for components from mines run by genocidal warlords in African conflict zones? Footballers might wear sweatshop made gear and endorse dodgy products but as far as unfair distribution of wealth goes they're small fry. At least football entertains people and lets them feel something special occassionally. I can think of a certain high profile kiwi who made his millions buying and selling foreign currencies - what benefit does that bring to most peoples lives? Who is happier because 4 million euros became 6 million greenbacks, other than the guy who took his cut from it?

Sorry, didn't mean to rant but I just think there's way bigger issues in the world than footballers salaries and it seems like an odd thing to get up in arms about

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