Kiwi Players Elsewhere

Winston Reid (Unattached FC)

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james dean wrote:
You would think that this deal would have quite a few contingencies, �4m is quite a lot for a fairly untried player (although he is young)
 
My photographer Frankie Max and I have requested a YF media invite to the unveiling, watch this space for an exclusive!
Brilliant
 
And Stevo - its not really a rise from nowhere. Yes, any move from Denmark to the EPL is a significant step, but I think its important not to forget the career platform he had laid in Denmark. He was expected to play in a big league sooner or later by people who knew him in Denmark. For the past six months I have been checking out the FCM fan website from time to time and they have been speculating about how many million Krona they would get for Reid for a long time (although the reaction seems to be they think they have got a good price, if the 4 mill pounds is true).
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Surely they wouldn't have signed him if they had no intentions of including him in the 25?
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Oska wrote:
Doloras wrote:
subria wrote:
Sky Sports UK is reporting that Reid has signed for West Ham United, pending a medical check. Should be done by the weekend. �4 million transfer fee.
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[quote]The FC Midtjylland stopper made a huge impression during the finals in South Africa


??? That means "goalkeeper" in Britspeak, doesn't it?
Generally means a player who's job is to stop the other team scoring goals, usually a keeper or centre back.


In Croatian, stoper means centre-back.
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james dean wrote:
It will be interesting to see whether he is intended to go into their 25 man list as he is neither home grown nor U21, quite a hard place to be...
 
For multiple million pounds (and whatever the actual price, FCM wouldnt have sold him without getting a decent fee for him) surely he is being bought to play
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james dean wrote:
You would think that this deal would have quite a few contingencies, �4m is quite a lot for a fairly untried player (although he is young)
 
My photographer Frankie Max and I have requested a YF media invite to the unveiling, watch this space for an exclusive!
 
I still don't know why I wasn't allowed to come.

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I wouldnt mind betting he will go out on loan to get him accustomed to British Football. There is a good choice of players at the club at the moment, but I think this is part of the Gold / Sullivan financial planning.

Just after they took over they endorsed the academy and development of young players to use as trading as they developed. The only thing that doesnt fit with that is that they have paid quite  a bit for him, even if it is �3 mill.I havent seen any mention of terms but I would think it would be 3 or 4 years.

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Frankie Max sounds much more like the name a cool young photographer would have, striving for authenticity

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Marius Lacatus wrote:
james dean wrote:
You would think that this deal would have quite a few contingencies, �4m is quite a lot for a fairly untried player (although he is young)
 
My photographer Frankie Max and I have requested a YF media invite to the unveiling, watch this space for an exclusive!
Brilliant
 
And Stevo - its not really a rise from nowhere. Yes, any move from Denmark to the EPL is a significant step, but I think its important not to forget the career platform he had laid in Denmark. He was expected to play in a big league sooner or later by people who knew him in Denmark. For the past six months I have been checking out the FCM fan website from time to time and they have been speculating about how many million Krona they would get for Reid for a long time (although the reaction seems to be they think they have got a good price, if the 4 mill pounds is true).
 
Outside of NZ and Denmark, nobody had heard of the guy really had they?
 
Getting picked at death for the NZ World Cup squad, playing, scoring, doing well, and then signing for West Ham in the EPL for 4million quid is a meteoric rise in my language!
 
I take your point that's it's not so surprising if you follow Kiwi football really closely.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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Steve-O wrote:
Outside of NZ and Denmark, nobody had heard of the guy really had�they?



Reid had been on the radar of clubs in Italy for the last couple of seasons.
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Steve-O wrote:
Marius Lacatus wrote:
james dean wrote:
You would think that this deal would have quite a few contingencies, �4m is quite a lot for a fairly untried player (although he is young)
 
My photographer Frankie Max and I have requested a YF media invite to the unveiling, watch this space for an exclusive!
Brilliant
 
And Stevo - its not really a rise from nowhere. Yes, any move from Denmark to the EPL is a significant step, but I think its important not to forget the career platform he had laid in Denmark. He was expected to play in a big league sooner or later by people who knew him in Denmark. For the past six months I have been checking out the FCM fan website from time to time and they have been speculating about how many million Krona they would get for Reid for a long time (although the reaction seems to be they think they have got a good price, if the 4 mill pounds is true).
 
 
Getting picked at death for the NZ World Cup squad, playing, scoring, doing well, and then signing for West Ham in the EPL for 4million quid is a meteoric rise in my language!
 
 
Whether it's a meteoric rise or not, it's an absolutely fantastic story, especiialy being contacted by TV3 on facebook to change nationalities.  The red tops will love him...

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el grapadura wrote:
Steve-O wrote:
Outside of NZ and Denmark, nobody had heard of the guy really had they?



Reid had been on the radar of clubs in Italy for the last couple of seasons.
 
According to whom?
 
What I am saying is that outside NZ, and in terms of football fans (not scouts from teams around the world), it is a meteoric rise!
 
Certainly you guys on here who follow the fortunes of the Kiwi footballers might have known all this stuff, but I bet no West Ham fans or almost any other UK/European football fan (outside Denmark) had heard of Reid.
 
This is not a bad thing, just simply a fact...probably!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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Steve-O wrote:
el grapadura wrote:
Steve-O wrote:

Outside of NZ and Denmark, nobody had heard of the guy really had�they?

Reid had been on the radar of clubs in Italy for the last couple of seasons.

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According to whom?

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What I am saying is that outside NZ, and in terms of football fans (not scouts from teams�around the world), it is a meteoric rise!

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Certainly you guys on here who follow the fortunes of the Kiwi footballers might have known all this stuff, but I bet no West Ham fans or almost any other UK/European football fan (outside Denmark) had heard of Reid.

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This is not a bad thing, just simply a fact...probably!


So any player who moves from a smaller league to a bigger one has a meteoric rise? Is that what you're saying?

Reid has been a solid starter at a decent club in a decent league, has played in UEFA competitions, has international experience at both youth and A levels, and has now moved to a middling club in a top league for decent, but certainly not huge, money all things considered. Seems like a fairly logical career progression for a promising player to me.
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Not quite sure why a comment about a meteoric rise has got your back up really? From the outside looking in, it's a meteoric rise! You may not think it is and it's perfectly usual for this to happen, but that's up to you.
 
My take on it is that 6 months ago he was an international unknown (outside of Denmark or NZ football fanatics), at an unknown club, in a league that basically nobody watches outside of Denmark. And given the amount of teams that gain entry to the Europa League at some level, it's not that big a deal that he played in UEFA competitions. PLENTY players all over Europe do this, but not too many of them are at the World Cup and then going to the EPL for 4 million quid soon after.
 
Now he's played and scored at the World Cup for a different country than the one he was affiliated to mere months ago, and signing for a well known team in the most watched league in the world, and has smashed the record transfer fee for a Kiwi footballer anywhere, ever.
 
4 million is big money going to a Danish club from the EPL...I doubt many Danish clubs have had that figure before. It may not be huge in terms of some of the ludicrous sums going around in the EPL, but it's still quite huge!
Steve-O2010-08-05 23:39:08

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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Read talking on Radio SPort about the move. Around 8.45

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simon_hampton wrote:
Fallon was also 300k from Swindon to Swansea.

Smeltz would have got it, as Shandong payed the 300k buyout clause in his contract.

Killens only transfer fee was 200k from Man City to Oldham.



Simon, Fallon was still more as Smeltz is $ AU/NZ vs � Stirling. In fact Killies transfer even then still works out to more then Smeltz' total.

Fallon was the record at Argyle but he was eclipsed two seasons ago and now Reid has easily eclipsed him for the AWs.

People here in England are aware of him.  A couple of the English lads whom I sat with at the Argyle game against QPR last friday were asking after him and any possible moves up the footballing ladder.
disco_mart2010-08-06 09:25:24
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Marius Lacatus wrote:
sanday wrote:
scoop wrote:
Read talking on Radio SPort about the move. Around 8.45

And here it is
http://203.167.213.237/addpod.asp?playthis=06090733.mp3
Waldegrave said to Reid you were "essentially a nobody before the World Cup" and I had to stop listening

He is average.No doubt.But i hung in to listen to Winston. Lets hope someone else does better.
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Marius Lacatus wrote:
sanday wrote:
scoop wrote:
Read talking on Radio SPort about the move. Around 8.45

And here it is
http://203.167.213.237/addpod.asp?playthis=06090733.mp3
Waldegrave said to Reid you were "essentially a nobody before the World Cup" and I had to stop listening


I don't think Darcy likes football much Marius. He's made this clear on a number of occasions in his broadcasting career to date.

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Reid in AWs shirt front page of Soccernet. Cool
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Wow, Waldergrave was a bit of a prick in that interview
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Don't rate Darcy at all. Rigger is good but he's not a football expert.
Some good bits in there but they could have done some better research and actually sounded enthusiastic about it. Darcy sounded like he'd rather be jumping in front of a moving bus that interviewing Reid.

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Simon Plumb covered himself in glory last week ...
 
"Although he [Reid] has openly expressed his desire to move on to a bigger and better challenge after his World Cup heroics, it seems no meaningful offers are materialising and that Reid is set to become the next in a line of All Whites hyped for a high-profile transfer, only to go nowhere."
 
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Marius Lacatus wrote:
sanday wrote:
scoop wrote:
Read talking on Radio SPort about the move. Around 8.45
And here it is http://203.167.213.237/addpod.asp?playthis=06090733.mp3

Waldegrave said to Reid you were "essentially a nobody before the World Cup" and I had to stop listening


Playing for U19, 20 21 national teams = essentially a nobody?

"Phoenix till they lose"

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Doesn't play rugby = essentially a nobody as far as Darcy is concerned
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A great move for the young man, tempered somewhat by having to look at misery-meister Avram Grant every day.
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Steve-O wrote:
Not quite sure why�a comment about a meteoric rise has got your back up�really? From the outside looking in, it's a meteoric rise! You may not think it is and it's perfectly usual for this to happen, but that's up to you.
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My take on it is that 6 months ago he was an international�unknown (outside of Denmark or NZ football fanatics), at an unknown club, in a league that basically nobody watches outside of Denmark. And given the amount of teams that gain entry to the Europa League at some level, it's not that�big a deal�that he played in UEFA competitions. PLENTY players all over Europe do this, but not too many of them are at the World Cup and then going to the EPL for 4 million quid soon after.

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Now he's played and scored at the World Cup for a different country than the one he was affiliated to mere months ago, and signing for a well known team in the most watched league in the world, and has smashed the record transfer fee for a Kiwi footballer anywhere, ever.

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4 million is big money going to a Danish club from the EPL...I doubt many Danish clubs have had that figure before. It may not be huge in terms of some of the ludicrous sums going around in the EPL, but it's still quite huge!


I've stuck to this because you're using your own ignorance as the norm and using it to argue a ridiculous point. Like I said: solid performances for a decent club in a decent league and in European competitions, been on the radar of Italian clubs (Palermo and Fiorentina) since at least 2009, and has now followed the logical progression to the bigger league that many Danish players from the Danish league have followed over the last 20 years. But obviously since Steve-O never bothered to follow any of this, it clearly never happened.

Meteoric rise. Hah. Meteoric rise is when you move from Georgian second division to the Premiership in the space of a season. Not a move that was being anticipated for about a year.
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Junior82 wrote:
Marius Lacatus wrote:
sanday wrote:
scoop wrote:
Read talking on Radio SPort about the move. Around 8.45
And here it is http://203.167.213.237/addpod.asp?playthis=06090733.mp3

Waldegrave said to Reid you were "essentially a nobody before the World Cup" and I had to stop listening


Playing for U19, 20 21 national teams = essentially a nobody?



Waldegrave = Steve-O
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Marius Lacatus wrote:
Simon Plumb covered himself in glory last week ...


Plum Duff is the leading rectum in New Zealand sports journalism. End of.

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el grapadura wrote:

Like I said: solid performances for a decent club in a decent league and in European competitions, been on the radar of Italian clubs (Palermo and Fiorentina) since at least 2009, and has now followed the logical progression to the bigger league that many Danish players from the Danish league have followed over the last 20 years.


Cheers EG. Essentially a nobody then.

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

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on the other hand big ups to Gourdie for breaking this.
its not often a Kiwi journo tips off the UK football media to an EPL transfer. we genuinely did "hear it here first".
 
I had to laugh at the story on the TVNZ website after Gourdie first broke the story. They didnt want to miss the story but refused to reference their competitior (and give them the kudos) as the source of the story. and when they couldnt intitially find any other media to quote (bc the UK media hadnt woken up yet), they instead resorted to quoting one of the West Ham fan forums, which itself was discussing the TV3 story! The Hammers fans then found the TVNZ story and thought it was absolutely hilarious.
 
 
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Yeah, well done Gourdie.

Funny how TV3 played a big part in how our world cup campaign materialised. Gourdie should be getting some of that transfer fee!
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waiting for the smart arses who were defiant that no kiwi would sign for a decent club to come out. Diego's Son was one wasn't he?

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A star in the ascendency which will in time become a Star footballer...potential to be a majestic player in the mould of Viera, Riom Ferdiand, marauding up field and biting legs in defence.
 
Would be good if a couple of % of the players "10%" of the fee came back to NZFA for the WC leg up.... 

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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Great news. Congrats Winston anth1832010-08-06 13:11:39
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Marius Lacatus wrote:
sanday wrote:
scoop wrote:
Read talking on Radio SPort about the move. Around 8.45

And here it is
http://203.167.213.237/addpod.asp?playthis=06090733.mp3
Waldegrave said to Reid you were "essentially a nobody before the World Cup" and I had to stop listening
 
I heard this also, but interpreted it as no one in the non-footballing circles knew of him. 
 
Didn't Ricki need Gourdie to hell him about Winston in the first place?  (correct me, my memory is jaded )
 
Anyway, well done Winston!  Hammer em all!
 
 
George Costanza2010-08-06 13:15:50
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Feverish wrote:
waiting for the smart arses who were defiant that no kiwi would sign for a decent club to come out. Diego's Son was one wasn't he?


Thanks Feverish. I love Wharfies too.

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Ewww, I've got nothing against West Ham, but those colours really don't suit Wiremu's complexion.

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