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Young Kiwis Outside the UK

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11 May 04:09 · edited 09 Sep 06:41
Young Kiwis Outside the UK
11 May 04:10 · edited 09 Sep 05:16
Went on the Wynrs website and read that a young rufer (shanes son perhaps?) and another New Zealand kid are on trial at Werder Bremen.
 
If he has half as much talent as his uncle Wynton, fantastic news.
 
Anyone who knows about him or the hamilton boy?
 
 
Question, is the wynrs programme the best outlet for young New Zealanders to get a chance to go pro?
 
To be honest i'd say yes, the nix can only help a few, and one spot is already taken for another two years.
11 May 04:51 · edited 09 Sep 05:16
How many WYNRS graduates have gone Pro ?

It'll be Wynton's son, Caleb or something like that ?  ..and the other one will be Marco Rojas.  I used to play indoor against him when he as about 5... Rojas is one hell of a player.
Hard News2008-05-11 16:53:07

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11 May 08:18 · edited 09 Sep 05:16

There is a few names of players signing with clubs in the last couple of years, admittedly as juniors, but they are on professional team lists.

The Blackburn kid is a wynrs player, so was the other player who trialled with him. Chris James was, Cole Peverly went to Rostock through them and theres a couple of kids in Japan that have got contracts as youth players.
 
Seems to be more and more coming through,  is it his contacts?
 
Personally, I think if you've got a talented kid, compared to the other skills programmes his would be the one to use. He obviously has the contacts.
 
Is his boy any good any one know?
 
 
11 May 12:17 · edited 09 Sep 05:16
even if his 'organisation' gets 1 kiwi kid a pro contract/youth contract etc isnt that a good thing for football in this nation? good on him for using his contacts to help give these kids a chance


11 May 12:44 · edited 09 Sep 05:16
This is an old argument but if a guy has been in the NZ soccer programme for years and then turns up at wyners for a week suddenly he is a "wyners" player and Rufer is the one responsible for his entire development. There are loads of Kiwis who have gotten professional opportunities overseas through the "normal" channels. As HardNews says, of all of those guys who went overseas, or on his trips, how many are in professional football as a direct result of that?

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11 May 22:15 · edited 09 Sep 05:16
TouchMe wrote:
Is his boy any good any one know?


He used to be when he was younger but I have not heard much in the last 5 years or so, whereas Rojas I have heard discussed as being very good.

James Dean has hit the nail on the head.  WYNRS are quick to claim anyone who ever did a two day course as being a WYNRS produyct if they are a success, and certainly Wynton's contacts do get some interesting junior placements.  However, a week at WYNRS against 10 years in the general NZF system doesn't make someone's success directly attributable to WYNRS.

I can't think of one that at this stage has gone on to a full professional contract, and by now if it was the great program it is proposed to be there should be a generation in their early twenties filling the Olympic side from European or Japanese clubs.



Hard News2008-05-12 10:21:11

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15 May 08:24 · edited 09 Sep 05:16
Talked to Chopper Kenyon today - he really rates Rufer jr - Hannover 96 are keen to sign him.

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15 May 11:07 · edited 09 Sep 05:16
Talked to Stacky during the week, he said he hasn't seen him for three years but back then he wasn't a significant level above his peers.

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16 May 10:44 · edited 09 Sep 05:16
Reading between the lines I think Jr has over taken Rojas in the quality stakes - that's from someone whose coached these guys a bit

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02 Jul 00:35 · edited 09 Sep 05:16
Hard News wrote:
How many WYNRS graduates have gone Pro ?

It'll be Wynton's son, Caleb or something like that ?  ..and the other one will be Marco Rojas.  I used to play indoor against him when he as about 5... Rojas is one hell of a player.





02 Jul 01:53 · edited 09 Sep 05:16
Yay me.

Incidentally, junior Rufer is at feeder club to Hannover trying to make his way.

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02 Jul 02:27 · edited 09 Sep 05:16
So how is Winton Rufer going since the days of Marlborough United days?
02 Jul 08:06 · edited 09 Sep 05:16
The former Central keeper, Stefan Marinovic, is also in Germany after going through the Wynrs Academy. I think he plays for Wehen Wiesbaden (or something like that).

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19 Jul 10:02 · edited 09 Sep 05:16
young rufer is caleb rufer son of wynton rufer. Seen him play alot and is a very good player, he is a good forward with great technique.anyone know where in germany hes playing now?
19 Jul 11:46 · edited 09 Sep 05:16
How old is he?
19 Jul 11:50 · edited 09 Sep 05:16
he is 17
19 Jul 11:54 · edited 09 Sep 05:16
When did he turn 17? Is he too old for the U17s??
19 Jul 12:06 · edited 09 Sep 05:16
yes hes born in 1991 so is 18 this year. Too old for the under 17s, ashame because they could use another good stricker
19 Jul 12:08 · edited 09 Sep 05:16
Yes, same as Marco.  Too old by about 3 months.

Pretty sure you need to be bown after 31st Dec 1991.

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20 Jul 15:24 · edited 09 Sep 05:16
Both Caleb Rufer and Stefan Marinovic (ex Central and Auckland age group rep) are at Wehen Wiesbaden
Caleb is listed in the u23 squad which plays in the local regional league, Stefan  has played pre season for the first team but would be rated number 3 in the club.
 
Caleb was at Langenhagan last season
 
Wehen Wiesbaden came bottom in the Bundesliga second division last year and were relegated down to liga 3 (liga 3 is not part of the bundesliga and is run separately by the German football federation)
 
20 Jul 18:59 · edited 09 Sep 05:16
Caleb got a brace the other day and set one up in a 5 - 0 win for the reserves.
 
Good start to have in pre season.
27 Jul 02:52 · edited 09 Sep 05:16
Does anyone know anything about this Michael Fitzgerald chap who is mentioned in the Rufer Jnr article as playing at Niigata? Presume he would be in their reserve team or whatever.
27 Jul 02:56 · edited 09 Sep 05:16
Oh god no... have a search, there have been discussions on this front before.

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27 Jul 03:45 · edited 09 Sep 05:16
Haha don't start asking about that chap.. Look through the forum, huge discussion!!
27 Jul 07:43 · edited 09 Sep 05:16
Right I see there is a comment or two already.
23 Apr 05:42 · edited 09 Sep 05:16
http://www.soccerway.com/players/paul-cunningham/113644/
 
 
 
Stumbled across this guy whilst perusing Durante's previous clubs. Anyone heard of him? Plays in the S-League with Balestier Khalsa, who seem to be perennial strugglers although he seems to get regular game time.
 
Played for Sorrento FC in W.A. before joining Balestier Khalsa for 2010 season.
Wibblebutt2010-04-25 10:59:26



02 Jul 03:37 · edited 09 Sep 05:16
Heh, I am exactly the same age as Caleb. Bet I'm a better footballer though.
Mr_Incredible2010-07-02 15:38:09
02 Jul 04:55 · edited 09 Sep 05:16
How many of the Wyner's boys have played age-group football for NZ?
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03 Jul 00:38 · edited 09 Sep 05:16
Hard News wrote:
Talk was he was going to Switzerland.
 
Any source confirming that rumour?
04 Aug 04:15 · edited 09 Sep 05:16

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