I forgot Clayton Lewis. It was hard for him to get that gig in England as he counts as an import
Young Kiwis Outside the UK
I forgot Clayton Lewis. It was hard for him to get that gig in England as he counts as an import
nah he got his English passport sorted before the move :) He wouldn't have been able to play at all if not for that, non-EU players can't play unless they have a special work permit and they meet certain requirements (something like playing in more than half of all your national team's games provided they're in the top 70 nations on the FIFA rankings)
I forgot Clayton Lewis. It was hard for him to get that gig in England as he counts as an import
nah he got his English passport sorted before the move :) He wouldn't have been able to play at all if not for that, non-EU players can't play unless they have a special work permit and they meet certain requirements (something like playing in more than half of all your national team's games provided they're in the top 70 nations on the FIFA rankings)
Didn't know that. Great for him then
based on Instagram, it seems that Elijah Just is back at Ole.
Makes sense. Even if PEC signed him he can't move until he turns 18.
Pretty sure Kosta has a greek (EU) passport.
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Wynton Rufer - Switzerland via his dad. The rules were different back then, no EU so he and Shane could play in Switzerland as locals, but Wynton played in Germany as an import
Switzerland wasn't in the EU at that stage. He was an import in Germany as their rules wren't as tough as the UK, he had signed for Norwich but was unable to get a work visa so went to Switzerland instead
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Wynton Rufer - Switzerland via his dad. The rules were different back then, no EU so he and Shane could play in Switzerland as locals, but Wynton played in Germany as an import
Switzerland wasn't in the EU at that stage. He was an import in Germany as their rules wren't as tough as the UK, he had signed for Norwich but was unable to get a work visa so went to Switzerland instead
And still isn't, much like Norway.
Few trials for young Kiwis in Europe that we can keep an eye on :)
Logan Rogerson - Carl Zeiss Jena (3rd tier in Germany)
Max Mata - Grasshopper (1st tier in Switzerland)
Leon van den Hoven - Waalwijk (2nd tier in Netherlands)
Moses Dyer - unknown club in Slovenia
Max Mata is the one with most promise IMO... considering he struggled at the NIX because of homesickness its a surprise he's over there.
Who is Hoven?
Who is Hoven?
Eastern Suburbs kid, played a bit after signing from Auckland in January I think. Definitely a promising kid
here's Leon van den Hovens send off by the Sacred Heart supporters at Bill McKinley after his last game for the school before leaving for Holland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrY6-356wOA
How old is he?
18 last April
van der Hoven has been signed by Waalwijk - just seen on Phoenix twitter page.
Watching him play for Easts I thought he was an excellent and well worth a place in a decent national league team. Vision, decision making and longer passing let him down some times, but man he's got so much time to sort that out and Easts were playing the game at a quick pace which probably made it a bit harder
Confirmed!
https://wpss.org.nz/2018/06/28/van-den-hoven-takes-contract-holland/
Sounds like FC Carl Zeiss Jena will make a decision on whether to sign Rogerson by the end of the week
https://www.liga-drei.de/carl-zeiss-jena-entscheidung-ueber-rogerson-naht/
From another article
Jena. Logan Rogerson's chances of winning a contract with FC Carl Zeiss Jena are good. The 20-year-old made an impression during his trial training.
"He shows good approaches to speed and technique, but still has to learn tactically. He is a very interesting perspective player, "says sporting director Kenny Verhoene. Together with coach Mark Zimmermann and CEO Chris Förster he wanted to discuss whether the outside striker gets a chance at the third division. "Crucial will be the joint assessment of how long it will take to help us in the third division." Rogerson has been playing since the training in Jena and will remain this week.
https://www.otz.de/web/zgt/sport/detail/-/specific/FC-Carl-Zeiss-Jena-Rogerson-hinterlaesst-guten-Eindruck-960096323
That "has to learn tactically" part is interesting. Something similar was said about Tyler Boyd in Portugal. Some deficiencies in the way our local top players are being coached?
Rogerson starts in FC Carl Zeiss Jena's latest pre-season game vs FK Usti Nad Labem. They ended up winning 1-0
Willem II lijkt zich op korte termijn te gaan versterken met James McCarry #WillemII #wellingtonphoenix #mcgarry https://t.co/rnYOxLWMSB
— Voetbalzone.nl (@voetbalzonenl) July 9, 2018
Looks like Kalezic provided him a reference? Article also refers to him as a left back. https://www.bd.nl/willem-ii/willem-ii-haalt-linksback-james-mcgarry-uit-nieuw-zeeland~a19a3de8/
is this the same club as Hover? How is Mata going?
Brilliant move for James. Got to wonder why he didn’t get more game time for Nix
is this the same club as Hover? How is Mata going?
This indicates Rogerson will be signed by FC Carl Zeiss Jena if he manages to get a work visa. Guessing he doesn't have a Euro passport? https://www.liga3-online.de/bericht-jena-vor-verpflichtung-von-testspieler-rogerson/
Willem II lijkt zich op korte termijn te gaan versterken met James McCarry #WillemII #wellingtonphoenix #mcgarry https://t.co/rnYOxLWMSB
— Voetbalzone.nl (@voetbalzonenl) July 9, 2018
Looks like Kalezic provided him a reference? Article also refers to him as a left back. https://www.bd.nl/willem-ii/willem-ii-haalt-linksback-james-mcgarry-uit-nieuw-zeeland~a19a3de8/
Okay I don't speak Dutch. Is he officially signed or just trialling?
Article translates from Google as -
"Willem II welcomed James McGarry on the training field on Monday morning, reports the Brabants Dagblad. Twenty-year-old
New Zealander was on the tribune on Saturday when the Tilburg team
practiced against the Diessense Selection and the club hopes to complete
the final formalities around the coming of the left back on Tuesday,
after which it will be officially presented.The left back comes from Wellington Phoenix, where he worked under trainer Darije Kalezic. The
Bosnian did not expect McGarry to be seen on the Dutch fields next
season:
"Unusual that he will get a chance at the Eredivisie level. Because of injuries, I have not seen him at work so much. But it is a boy with a very good mentality, "he explains.Kalezic
indicates that there are still a number of areas for improvement in
McGarry's game: "He still has to learn how to make choices and his
overview also needs to be improved", concludes the former trainer of De
Graafschap and Roda JC Kerkrade. . McGarry has played two games for the main power of Wellington so far. On
behalf of New Zealand he also participated in the Under-17 World Cup in
2017 and the Under-20 World Cup that was finished last year in India."
If he's signed is a great move. Willem II finished 13th in the Eredivisie (Dutch top flight last season).
RKC Waalwijk finished 14th in the Erste Divisie (Durch 2nd tier) last season.
Mods perhaps you can set up individual posts now for both McGarry & Den Hoven.
Hard to remember this many young Kiwis all at once getting (or potentially getting) pro gigs in Europe - especially if Rogerson also gets signed.
This indicates Rogerson will be signed by FC Carl Zeiss Jena if he manages to get a work visa. Guessing he doesn't have a Euro passport? https://www.liga3-online.de/bericht-jena-vor-verpflichtung-von-testspieler-rogerson/
"For
three weeks, the New Zealander Logan Rogerson participates in the
training of FC Carl Zeiss Jena, now the striker should sign a contract. Whether Rogerson will then be used for the first team, should still be decided.Verhoene confirmedOn
the weekend, there was the okay: As the "Bild" reports, FCC sports
director Kenny Verhoene has now confirmed that auditioner Logan Rogerson
will receive a contract in Jena.
The
20-year-old striker from New Zealand, who was last in the domestic
A-League for Phoenix Wellington on the ball, had last presented for
three weeks in training and probably left a lasting impression.Coordination with the foreigners authority
Now Jena wants to tie the attacker, but could then let him first in the second team in the league to use. Before
that, however, some formalities would have to be agreed with the
immigration authorities before a final sentence could be reported. With
eleven games in the A-League (three goals) and nine appearances for the
U20 national team of New Zealand Rogerson would bring despite his young
age also international experience."
Carl Zeiss Jena, finished 11th in 3. Liga last season, 2 spots below Marinovic's old team Unterhaching.
Their home crowds seem to be in range of 5,000-10,000.
van den Hoven got a run in opening day friendly game for Waalwijk (he's second bottom right)
Great to see he’s been thrown into the first team there.
Let’s not underestimate how well Max Mata’s doing either - he’s part of the first team training squad (second row far left), and will be lining up to play Zenit tomorrow!
Whats the story with Elijah Just?
van den Hoven started in a friendly against Zulte Waregem (Belgian top flight, their starting line up included Belgian, French, Norwegian, Swedish and Finnish internationals, youth and senior ) played the first half, hit the bar according to this article.
van den Hoven started in a friendly against Zulte Waregem (Belgian top flight, their starting line up included Belgian, French, Norwegian, Swedish and Finnish youth internationals) played the first half, hit the bar according to this article.
https://www.bd.nl/dossier-eerste-divisie/gemotivee...
Has his own thread now
Whats the story with Elijah Just?
Back at Wests. He is (was) too young to make an international transfer. Same situation as Calvin Harris for the WeeNix.
Did hear there was a professional club who'd like to have a chat with him that doesn't involve an international transfer but...
That’s all exciting news really
Whats the story with Elijah Just?
He's on crutches.
Appears Kiwi keeper Michael Woud will be joining James McGarry at Willem II in the Eredivisie: https://t.co/6FN9jTx6zF
— Andrew Voerman (@andrewvoerman) July 11, 2018
Whats the story with Elijah Just?
He's on crutches.
New recovery technique to protect those soon to be very valuable legs.
New recovery technique to protect those soon to be very valuable legs.