'Fair Dinkum! Phoenix are an Aussie team.
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'Fair Dinkum! Phoenix are an Aussie team.
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Interesting opinion piece by Gordon Irving in the Sunday Star Times. Under the above heading he looks at the whole debate of the Phoenix giving in to the Asian Football Confederation demands that the Phoenix become a fully Australian club and thus NZ players would be only allowed under the three foreigners rule.
This is a huge debate that I've tried to touch on a number of times, that now seems to have bubbled to the surface.
Irving asks: "Why not let the AFC do what it wants? It's not as though the Phoenix are overflowing with an abundance of kiwi talent anyway. This Phoenix team has made the second round of the A League playoffs thanks largely to imports - McKain, Reddy, Durante and Ifill."
"Costa Barbarouses got so fed up with lack of opportunity he has thrown in his lot with Brisbane."
There are only three kiwi players who are now Phoenix regulars - Brown, Lochead and Bertos. Ben Sigmund is second fiddle to McKain and even Mark Paston will struggle to get back in ahead of Reddy, provided he stays.
Irving suggests that the Phownix leadership is already contemplating the Phoenix becoming a fully Australian team so they can qualify for the Asian Champions League. "Phoenix CEO Tony Pignata is reported as saying: If we quality for the 2011 Asian Champions League I would have no problem following their three foreigners rule' because we would adjust to that."
Perhaps the Phoenix have already signalled they can meet that 'three foreigners (NZ)' criteria and the future does lie with being a fully registered Australian team and competing in the ACL.
Very interesting indeed.
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Nothing is going to spoil today.
GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS
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wrong forum room, this should be moved to "news and blogging"
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No one need reply to this thread.
At least till tomorrow, or season's end, which a few weeks away from now.
Pop this into the news section and lets all just give this thread the cold shoulder.
Starting from now..
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Ban for the op and yes to the blogging and news section this goes.
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Sunday news showing uninformed they are with regards to Reddy.
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No one need reply to this thread.
At least till tomorrow, or season's end, which a few weeks away from now.
Pop this into the news section and lets all just give this thread the cold shoulder.
Starting from now..
Has to be addressed sooner or later son. At present Phoenix have a few foreigners (i.e non-Aust/NZ players), a few Australians and a few New Zealanders.
No other A-League team has this composition.
It's going to have to be addressed. I've got my eye on you!
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Good timing DS, within minutes of us achieving our greatest ever club moment. Your 'devil's advocacy' is also always so greatly appreciated....
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Good timing DS, within minutes of us achieving our greatest ever club moment. Your 'devil's advocacy' is also always so greatly appreciated....
I know
I'm waiting for the Syd vs Melb game, so I thought I'd be cheeky here until then.
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I'm going to bite, this has been getting on my goat all day. Bluemagic the Wellington Phoenix are playing in the Australian A-League, which is in turn part of the AFC. If we want to play in their competition then we should abide by the rules they set down. This has absolutely nothing to do with New Zealand Football at all, and to think it does is very narrow minded. The fact is, the Phoenix have almost single handedly brought football to the minds of people around the country (yes even quite a few in Auckland). This coupled with the All Whites qualifying for the World Cup will be the start of years and years of footballing joy in this country. Does is really matter if kids want to be the next Paston or Reddy? Sigmund or Durante? No, the fact is they want to be there, and it bodes well for us all.
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I'm going to bite, this has been getting on my goat all day. Bluemagic the Wellington Phoenix are playing in the Australian A-League, which is in turn part of the AFC. If we want to play in their competition then we should abide by the rules they set down. This has absolutely nothing to do with New Zealand Football at all, and to think it does is very narrow minded.
The fact is, the Phoenix have almost single handedly brought football to the minds of people around the country (yes even quite a few in Auckland). This coupled with the All Whites qualifying for the World Cup will be the start of years and years of footballing joy in this country. Does is really matter if kids want to be the next Paston or Reddy? Sigmund or Durante? No, the fact is they want to be there, and it bodes well for us all.
The fact is, the Phoenix have almost single handedly brought football to the minds of people around the country (yes even quite a few in Auckland). This coupled with the All Whites qualifying for the World Cup will be the start of years and years of footballing joy in this country. Does is really matter if kids want to be the next Paston or Reddy? Sigmund or Durante? No, the fact is they want to be there, and it bodes well for us all.
Quiet good comments there from Timmy Madden. Hard News and Bluemagic will kill me for saying this but the development on NZ players at the youth period is not a concern to the FFA. How Phoenix recruits its NZ-developed players is up to it and the league's regulations, but how you get 14 and 15 year old NZ-developed players up to the standard that will impress Phoenix staff is of little (or no) interest to the FFA.
That's just being honest. Go on ban me, or threaten a ban, go on-do it!
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I'm going to bite, this has been getting on my goat all day. Bluemagic the Wellington Phoenix are playing in the Australian A-League, which is in turn part of the AFC. If we want to play in their competition then we should abide by the rules they set down. This has absolutely nothing to do with New Zealand Football at all, and to think it does is very narrow minded. The fact is, the Phoenix have almost single handedly brought football to the minds of people around the country (yes even quite a few in Auckland). This coupled with the All Whites qualifying for the World Cup will be the start of years and years of footballing joy in this country. Does is really matter if kids want to be the next Paston or Reddy? Sigmund or Durante? No, the fact is they want to be there, and it bodes well for us all.
Quiet good comments there from Timmy Madden. Hard News and Bluemagic will kill me for saying this but the development on NZ players at the youth period is not a concern to the FFA. How Phoenix recruits its NZ-developed players is up to it and the league's regulations, but how you get 14 and 15 year old NZ-developed players up to the standard that will impress Phoenix staff is of little (or no) interest to the FFA.That's just being honest. Go on ban me, or threaten a ban, go on-do it!
Again... you haven't actually read the reply. Same old DS...
E + R + O
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Yes, wouldn't the ACFC Knitting Circle love it if the Phoenix ceased to exist. Wouldn't it be great to win control of the losing side, rather than lose control of the winning side?
Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads
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I'm going to bite, this has been getting on my goat all day. Bluemagic the Wellington Phoenix are playing in the Australian A-League, which is in turn part of the AFC. If we want to play in their competition then we should abide by the rules they set down. This has absolutely nothing to do with New Zealand Football at all, and to think it does is very narrow minded. The fact is, the Phoenix have almost single handedly brought football to the minds of people around the country (yes even quite a few in Auckland). This coupled with the All Whites qualifying for the World Cup will be the start of years and years of footballing joy in this country. Does is really matter if kids want to be the next Paston or Reddy? Sigmund or Durante? No, the fact is they want to be there, and it bodes well for us all.
Quiet good comments there from Timmy Madden. Hard News and Bluemagic will kill me for saying this but the development on NZ players at the youth period is not a concern to the FFA. How Phoenix recruits its NZ-developed players is up to it and the league's regulations, but how you get 14 and 15 year old NZ-developed players up to the standard that will impress Phoenix staff is of little (or no) interest to the FFA.That's just being honest. Go on ban me, or threaten a ban, go on-do it!
Again... you haven't actually read the reply. Same old DS...
??????????????????????????????????????????????????????? WTF? Considering I was being quiet cheeky in this thread overall I find your comments Surge a bit gay.
I don't think I wasn't saying anything that wasn't in relation to the thread topic.
Gay and stupid son.
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I'm gay? I'm stupid? And I'm someone's son?
Yep, righto.
Yep, righto.
E + R + O
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F*ck off BlueMagic
I am not saying that Bluemajic is right, however he has some good points, unlike you who obviously are a dork and told him to f--k off, without offering a comment.
You really are smart.
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
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