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'Possible' Joint Oz/Indonesia WC Bid

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'Possible' Joint Oz/Indonesia WC Bid
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It's possible this, and reflects the joint Aust/Indonesia agreement signed recently, and discussed on this website.

http://www.theworldgame.com.au/australia/australias-wc-bid-rival-teetering-288106

Australia's WC bid rival teetering
9 February 2010 | 12:16 - SBS: Matthew Hall

Indonesia�s bid to host the 2022 FIFA World Cup appears close to collapse with the country�s government appearing unlikely to back the proposal.

However, Indonesian football authorities have publicly signalled they would consider a joint bid with Australia � if they can still obtain government support from Jakarta for such a proposal.

The latest twist in bidding for 2018 and 2022 World Cups comes as FIFA�s deadline for bids to guarantee government support is set to pass.

Indonesian football authorities admitted its government had yet to write an official letter backing the bid.

The Jakarta government believes the Indonesian Football Association should focus on grassroots development before considering an ambitious World Cup bid.

�Without backing from the government, Indonesia will be disqualified from the bidding process,� Indonesian Football Association (PSSI) deputy secretary general Dali Tahir told The Jakarta Post.

�If we don�t take the opportunity now, we�ll have to wait for another 20 years.

�President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono and minister of youth and sport Andi Alifian Mallarangeng are the key figures to make this bid happen. We plead to them.

�It�s not just a PSSI event � it�s a big event for Indonesians.�

Indonesia�s minister for sport appeared to slam shut the bid�s coffin, claiming that hosting a World Cup should be lower on the PSSI�s list of priorities.

�The PSSI must put the focus on revitalising football development in the country, not anything else,� Minister Andi Alifian Mallarangeng told the paper.

�We have to pull ourselves to the top of the Southeast Asian region again, then we�ll have to be one of Asia�s best. After that, we can talk about the World Cup.�

While its own bid appears to be going nowhere, Indonesian football authorities claimed a joint bid with Australia was still a possibility � but that support from Jakarta was still required.

Dali Tahir, PSSI deputy general secretary who has served on FIFA�s Ethics Committee, also claimed the world governing body was poised to award Asia hosting rights for 2022, which would be a significant fillip for Australia's campaign.

�FIFA has confirmed the 2022 World Cup will be held in Asia,� Dali Tahir said, although FIFA has not confirmed that claim.

�Australia and Indonesia have a chance but Australia doesn�t want to face us head-to-head. They prefer to have us as a strategic ally.

"But without the guarantee letter [from the government], it�s impossible to join forces with Australia.�
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Hell no. Holding a World Cup in a Muslim country 

Three for me, and two for them.

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Dunno about it being a Muslim country, but Oz and Indonesia?  (Indo is not the most stable/safest place to hold a major sporting event)
 
 

"Phoenix till they lose"

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Indonesia is the largest Muslim country in the world. Way way too unstable.

Three for me, and two for them.

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Sorry, I meant there are other Muslim counties that would be OK to host a WC - they're not all hotbeds of terrorism.
 
 

"Phoenix till they lose"

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Yeah, the above comment suggests prejudice against Muslims.

Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
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Buffon, your comments are extremely ignorant. There is no law in the world that says Muslim = unstable. Many Muslim countries are far more stable than South Africa for example!
 
Or maybe you think FIFA should make a list of religions that it deems acceptable?
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Junior82 wrote:
Sorry, I meant there are other Muslim counties that would be OK to host a WC - they're not all hotbeds of terrorism.
 
 
 
Like...

Three for me, and two for them.

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Bahrain.

Egypt could host fantastically as well.
loyalgunner2010-02-11 12:30:15
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Bahrain - Too small.
 
Egypt - Contentious to say the least. Too close to Algeria, Sudan, Libya and Israel for my liking.

Three for me, and two for them.

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Well Algeria is about a million miles away (probably close to France than Egypt), and being close to those other countries hasn't got anything to do with hosting the World Cup. Should Zimbabwe and North Korea should have stopped their neighbours from hosting the World Cup in your opinion?
 
Anyway, I think with the Bahrain example you really have to concede that there are Muslim countries that are stable enough to hold the World Cup (even if too small).
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Colvinator wrote:
 Should Zimbabwe and North Korea should have stopped their neighbours from hosting the World Cup in your opinion?
 
 
That has little to do with religion though.

Three for me, and two for them.

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Buffon II wrote:
Colvinator wrote:
 Should Zimbabwe and North Korea should have stopped their neighbours from hosting the World Cup in your opinion?
 
 
That has little to do with religion though.
 
This is my point. You are being extremely prejudice against the Muslim religion.
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Colvinator wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
Colvinator wrote:
 Should Zimbabwe and North Korea should have stopped their neighbours from hosting the World Cup in your opinion?
 
 
That has little to do with religion though.
 
This is my point. You are being extremely prejudice against the Muslim religion.
 
Not really.

Three for me, and two for them.

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Buffon II wrote:
Colvinator wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
Colvinator wrote:
 Should Zimbabwe and North Korea should have stopped their neighbours from hosting the World Cup in your opinion?
 
 
That has little to do with religion though.
 
This is my point. You are being extremely prejudice against the Muslim religion.
 
Not really.
 
Wow. Must be taking the piss.
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Paulinho wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
Colvinator wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
Colvinator wrote:
 Should Zimbabwe and North Korea should have stopped their neighbours from hosting the World Cup in your opinion?
 
 
That has little to do with religion though.
 
This is my point. You are being extremely prejudice against the Muslim religion.
 
Not really.
 
Wow. Must be taking the piss.
 
No.

Three for me, and two for them.

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Buffon II wrote:
Hell no. Holding a World Cup in a Muslim country 


I think some of the posts here are missing the point, Indonesia is Australia's closest AFC neighbour. For years Australia has been trying to build its relations with Indonesia, looks like the world game has finally opened that door.

Don't think that the Australian Government won't be salivating at this thought.
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loyalgunner wrote:
Bahrain.

Egypt could host fantastically as well.
I'd love to go to a World Cup in Egypt.
You know we belong together...

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Pretty sure Japan is in Asia...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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Junior82 wrote:
Sorry, I meant there are other Muslim counties that would be OK to host a WC - they're not all hotbeds of terrorism.
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Such as Afghanistan, Pakistan,Iran,Iraq,Somalia,Sudan, Nigeria etc

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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Another troll!
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Colvinator wrote:
Another troll!


LOL. For having a differing opinion?

Jog on.

Three for me, and two for them.

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The point is that there may not be a Muslim country right now that is ideal for holding a World Cup for a variety of reasons. It's prejudice of the worst kind to say that they are unfit to hold a World Cup because they are lots of Muslims. Haha, I really want Indonesia to hold it now!
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Colvinator wrote:
Haha, I really want Indonesia to hold it now!


Yeah that'll show me HAHAHAHA ZOMG!!!11!11!!!!

sigh....

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Colvinator wrote:
Another troll!


A question of being practical.
No country will ever get it on religon.
You are the troll?

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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Leggy wrote:

No country will ever get it on religon.


Nail > Head




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The WC should obviously not be in any islamic countries. They are far too unstable with all that mad muslim terrorism.
 
I only want to see WC games played in safe cities like NY, London, Madrid, Paris, Tokyo, Munich, Glasgow, Moscow, etc, etc...
StopOut2010-02-11 23:44:39
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Leggy wrote:
Junior82 wrote:
Sorry, I meant there are other Muslim counties that would be OK to host a WC - they're not all hotbeds of terrorism.
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Such as Afghanistan, Pakistan,Iran,Iraq,Somalia,Sudan, Nigeria etc


Such as Malaysia, Saudi Arabia, - maybe even a confederation of gulf states (UAE, Bahrain) and Egypt as has been mentioned.

I still fail to see why being a Muslim country means it is unsuitable to host a WC.

Diego's Son - of course a joint Oz-Indo WC would be a great bridge building exercise between the two neighbours (given that there is much to build and get over).

How easy would it be for Jemaah Islamiyah to make a statement that would make Bali look like small fry if the WC was staged there (not in Bali I mean)?

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

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Junior82 wrote:
Leggy wrote:
Junior82 wrote:
Sorry, I meant there are other Muslim counties that would be OK to host a WC - they're not all hotbeds of terrorism.
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Such as Afghanistan, Pakistan,Iran,Iraq,Somalia,Sudan, Nigeria etc


Such as Malaysia, Saudi Arabia, - maybe even a confederation of gulf states (UAE, Bahrain) and Egypt as has been mentioned.

I still fail to see why being a Muslim country means it is unsuitable to host a WC.



Don't forget Turkey and Tunisia.
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But all islamic countries are unstable. And all terrorists are muslims (like IRA, ETA) therefore all muslims are terrorists!
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aitkenmike wrote:
But all islamic countries are unstable. And all terrorists are muslims (like IRA, ETA) therefore all muslims are terrorists!
 
That's so true.  Mate of mine told me down at the pub.
 
 

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

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Buffon II wrote:
Bahrain - Too small.
 
Egypt - Contentious to say the least. Too close to Algeria, Sudan, Libya and Israel for my liking.

whats wrong with Israel?
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AJ13 wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
Bahrain - Too small.
 
Egypt - Contentious to say the least. Too close to Algeria, Sudan, Libya and Israel for my liking.

whats wrong with Israel?


You f**king kidding me?

Three for me, and two for them.

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