FYI - Some useful knowledge about our rivals.
Sydney FC - The Blingers or Budget FC
- Started out with all the $ but due to some 'challenging' management are no longer seen as the leagues big spenders.
- Best stir ups ? David Zdrillic is their highest paid player, and Walter Bugno bought the Cove beers.
Central Coast Mariners - The Salty Dogs
- Famous for an inability to score goals.
Newcastle United Jets - The Jest or The Planes.
- Best Stir Up - The fan base is so young they need permission slips form their parents, and the usual red neck related ones directed at Newcastle in general.
Queensland Roar - The Clogs
- Best stir ups - They're ethnically dutch (nothing wrong with that) but ethnically based clubs were meant to have been gone after the NSL. Also entertaining is that they have Frank Farina as a manager, and he's rubbish.
Melbourne Victory - The Tards
- Best Wind Ups - Alessandro dives, Archie's goal celebrations (
), Muscat is a thug,
Fred has gone to the MLS. Wind-Ups undermined by the huge
crowds they got this year. They'll tell you they have the
most dedicated fans, but those of us who sat through the Kingz and
Knights will tell you they have nothing on us.
Adelaide United - The Cakes, The Barrels.
- The Cakes after the main fan website (www.gateaufc.com), and the Barrells after the Snowtown murders.
- Best Wind-Ups. Mostly around the Grand Final surrender in V2. Hindmarsh now known as Choke Park.
Perth Glory -
- Some people call them the Purple Poofs, but that is about as funny and original as Sheep jokes about the NZ side.
- Best Wind Ups - They almost finished below the Knights last season. Kiwi Adrian Webster smacking the Captain Jamie Harnwell in the chops.
- However they have Leo Bertos so they win.
All clubs
- Best stir up - The NSL was better, it had real fan Kulcha.
Sydney FC - The Blingers or Budget FC
- Started out with all the $ but due to some 'challenging' management are no longer seen as the leagues big spenders.
- Best stir ups ? David Zdrillic is their highest paid player, and Walter Bugno bought the Cove beers.
Central Coast Mariners - The Salty Dogs
- Famous for an inability to score goals.
Newcastle United Jets - The Jest or The Planes.
- Best Stir Up - The fan base is so young they need permission slips form their parents, and the usual red neck related ones directed at Newcastle in general.
Queensland Roar - The Clogs
- Best stir ups - They're ethnically dutch (nothing wrong with that) but ethnically based clubs were meant to have been gone after the NSL. Also entertaining is that they have Frank Farina as a manager, and he's rubbish.
Melbourne Victory - The Tards
- Best Wind Ups - Alessandro dives, Archie's goal celebrations (
), Muscat is a thug,
Fred has gone to the MLS. Wind-Ups undermined by the huge
crowds they got this year. They'll tell you they have the
most dedicated fans, but those of us who sat through the Kingz and
Knights will tell you they have nothing on us.Adelaide United - The Cakes, The Barrels.
- The Cakes after the main fan website (www.gateaufc.com), and the Barrells after the Snowtown murders.
- Best Wind-Ups. Mostly around the Grand Final surrender in V2. Hindmarsh now known as Choke Park.
Perth Glory -
- Some people call them the Purple Poofs, but that is about as funny and original as Sheep jokes about the NZ side.
- Best Wind Ups - They almost finished below the Knights last season. Kiwi Adrian Webster smacking the Captain Jamie Harnwell in the chops.
- However they have Leo Bertos so they win.
All clubs
- Best stir up - The NSL was better, it had real fan Kulcha.
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FYI - Some useful knowledge about our rivals.
Melbourne Victory - The Tards
- Best Wind Ups - Alessandro dives, Archie's goal celebrations (), Muscat is a thug,
Fred has gone to the MLS. Wind-Ups undermined by the huge
crowds they got this year. They'll tell you they have the
most dedicated fans, but those of us who sat through the Kingz and
Knights will tell you they have nothing on us.
Melbourne Victory - The Tards
- Best Wind Ups - Alessandro dives, Archie's goal celebrations (
), Muscat is a thug,
Fred has gone to the MLS. Wind-Ups undermined by the huge
crowds they got this year. They'll tell you they have the
most dedicated fans, but those of us who sat through the Kingz and
Knights will tell you they have nothing on us.
we
have the best fans by a mile!!!! muscat will blow kiwi's over
easily. 
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hi im from adelaide, everyone hates melbourne.
good luck this year pheonix! hopefully you guys do well
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Those wind ups against Melbourne are pretty lame-
We know Alessandro dives, but at least it's a change from him turning the ball over...
Archie? 5 goals in a Grand Final, he can celebrate however he wants (even if he did rip off Timmy Cahill!)
We know Kev's a thug. And we love it.
And the Tard thing? Well, I admit- that can be hurtful. I
guess we'll just have to cry into our champion's scarves,
huh?
On ya, people, best of luck with the new team! Look forward to
some banter with you over the next season!
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Kevin Muscat is the dirtiest player I've had the displeasure of watching. He's destroyed the careers of a couple of promising players including one of my beloved Norwich City players. I got a great thrill at Carrow Road when he was booed off the pitch for his agricultural style of play. There is a strong rumour he stars in the latest Kiwi movie Killer Sheep. If the Phoenix thought about bringing this type of player to the franchise I wouldn't be interested in parting with my money to see him play.He shouldn't be playing in the A-League, rather a job at AFFCO boning cattle would be more appropriate.
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For all his issues (and I can't stand him) he was close to the best
player in the A-League last season behind Fred.
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I'm not questioning his ability Hard Man:-p I just dislike his
anamalistic behaviour that crops up from time to time. I didn't
watch enough of the A-League to see who shone but Fred certainly
has a great name for starters.
Be nice to get a quality Brasilian called ALF in the Feenix
lineup.
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what are the chance of any players from the uk wanting to play for
the mighty yellow men!!!!!
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would be interesting to have a mix of players. we need
some overseas players to add to our NZ players?.
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what are the chance of any players from the uk wanting to play for
the mighty yellow men!!!!!
Because that was a resounding sucess for the Phoenix' predecessor... one decent one out of 10-12... avoid like the plague (but if Neil Emblen wants to come back from Puerto Rico with Alen Marcina he'd be welcome).
Luke, I suspect we'll see 12-15 kiwi's, the maximum 4 imports allowed by the league which will leave us with between 4 and 7 Australians. It would be nice if Totori did not count against the import count but that might need some grovelling to the FFA.
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Introduction to the A-League Part II:
The Fans.
Sydney FC:
The Cove - Ah, the self-confessed best fans in the land. No fanbase has a higher opinion of themselves. Still feeling the shame of backing Walter Bugno no matter what he did (see David Zdrillic above) all because he bought them a few beers. Not as 'Ultra' as they used to be...
Has recently split with a group moving to the other end to be near visiting fans.
Many of the elders are actually decent guys but the kids, zOMG, the kids...
Melbourne Victory:
The BBW (BWB). - Lot's of noise, and credible visual diplays. Prone to Flares and an occassional brain fade (items chucked on the pitch - trying to 'Get at' visiting fans, which get's the dis-enfranchised NSL fans all frothy about hooliganism. Some of them have moved to the Victorian Premier League and are making right twats of themsleves.
The SDC : It's more about the beer (and what's wrong with that).
Adelaide United:
The Gate. Like Sydney some credible elders but the introspection, oh, the introspection... more time and effort is spent analysing the performance of the Gate than the performance of the team (Sydney are prone to this as well). Lots of Red so they can look impressive.
The Red Army - Oh dear... wannabe hools, about as bad as it gets
MSE - Eh ? Meh ? Neh...
The HWLF/BMH... no one is even sure that this group even exists.
Perth Glory:
The Shed - Longer serving than even Bloc 5. Accused of being too English, but let's be honest isn't that just a cross-section of Perth ? Still standing by a side that has collapsed from being the leagues dominant side to a side that would have finished below the Knights last season if Melbourne had not sent a B side for a late season match.
Plus they have Leo Bertos.
More to come...
The Fans.
Sydney FC:
The Cove - Ah, the self-confessed best fans in the land. No fanbase has a higher opinion of themselves. Still feeling the shame of backing Walter Bugno no matter what he did (see David Zdrillic above) all because he bought them a few beers. Not as 'Ultra' as they used to be...
Has recently split with a group moving to the other end to be near visiting fans.
Many of the elders are actually decent guys but the kids, zOMG, the kids...
Melbourne Victory:
The BBW (BWB). - Lot's of noise, and credible visual diplays. Prone to Flares and an occassional brain fade (items chucked on the pitch - trying to 'Get at' visiting fans, which get's the dis-enfranchised NSL fans all frothy about hooliganism. Some of them have moved to the Victorian Premier League and are making right twats of themsleves.
The SDC : It's more about the beer (and what's wrong with that).
Adelaide United:
The Gate. Like Sydney some credible elders but the introspection, oh, the introspection... more time and effort is spent analysing the performance of the Gate than the performance of the team (Sydney are prone to this as well). Lots of Red so they can look impressive.
The Red Army - Oh dear... wannabe hools, about as bad as it gets
MSE - Eh ? Meh ? Neh...
The HWLF/BMH... no one is even sure that this group even exists.
Perth Glory:
The Shed - Longer serving than even Bloc 5. Accused of being too English, but let's be honest isn't that just a cross-section of Perth ? Still standing by a side that has collapsed from being the leagues dominant side to a side that would have finished below the Knights last season if Melbourne had not sent a B side for a late season match.
Plus they have Leo Bertos.
More to come...
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Love these updates Hard News...quality. Good to know we've
got six months to work on our wind ups!!
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ok a couple of things
. melbourne has had some insidents of throwing things etc, but generally have only given as good as we have got. whilst adelaide have repeatedly thrown bottles at opposition keepers, hitting liam reddy from perth.
someone mentioned that archie copied tim cahills goal celebration, you should know that it was actually the other way around with tim copying archie's in a premier league game to honor archie's newwborn son in 2005, tim cahill has since made it famous but it is still archie's.
kev musket has had a horrible career in terms of ending careers etc, but playing in midfield for melbourne he is not that type of player any more, still a hard man but very creative now, and less prone to stupid tackles
. melbourne has had some insidents of throwing things etc, but generally have only given as good as we have got. whilst adelaide have repeatedly thrown bottles at opposition keepers, hitting liam reddy from perth.
someone mentioned that archie copied tim cahills goal celebration, you should know that it was actually the other way around with tim copying archie's in a premier league game to honor archie's newwborn son in 2005, tim cahill has since made it famous but it is still archie's.
kev musket has had a horrible career in terms of ending careers etc, but playing in midfield for melbourne he is not that type of player any more, still a hard man but very creative now, and less prone to stupid tackles
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Isn't one-eyed opinion a wonderful thing...
Adelaide fans threw a bottle from Perth and hit Liam Reddy in Queensland ? That's some throwing arm... Reddy may have got around in his playing career, but I think you will find he has never left the Eastern Seaboard...
Adelaide fans threw a bottle from Perth and hit Liam Reddy in Queensland ? That's some throwing arm... Reddy may have got around in his playing career, but I think you will find he has never left the Eastern Seaboard...
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someone mentioned that archie copied tim cahills goal celebration, you should know that it was actually the other way around with tim copying archie's in a premier league game to honor archie's newwborn son in 2005, tim cahill has since made it famous but it is still archie's.
I did not know that, cheers.
Matters little to me anyway, as I love 'em both!
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I thought Liam Reddy played for QR not PG
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I just hope that the Phoenix dont sign anymore Norwich City rejects
like Neil Emblen....unless the players name is Robbie Earnshaw.
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About the A-League, a summary of its short history for any
Wellington residents who might not be aware what this "A-League"
is.
In the style of the J-League and K-League, the Australia
League (A-League) was founded after an official report on the state
of Australian soccer concluded that there was something seriously
wrong. This had already been known for decades by every football
fan and even everybody else. The founding teams were based on a one
team per city basis, except for the Central Coast Mariners, who
were the experiment, the only regional team to apply. The aim of
the first season was to have average crowds of 10 000, and it was
marketed with the slogan "football, but not as you know
it," trying to banish all thoughts of the ethic based
clubs which alienated the public in the old NSL. The crowd
goal has been comprehesively exceeded in the two seasons so far,
with record regular season club football crowds in
Melbourne, Newcaslte, Central Coast and Queensland. The
55000 odd fans who attended the "A-League version 2" grand final
was yet another record. A notable achievement of the A-League has
been the return of famous Socceroos such as Kevin Muscat, Paul
Okon, Ned Zelic, Tony Vidmar, Danny Tiatto and Stan Lazaridis. The
marquee and guest player concepts have seen players such as Dwight
Yorke, Benito Carbone and Romario play in the League, though some
have questioned whether this has been money well spent. The success
of the League has prompted groups from Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane,
Townsville, the Gold Coast, Wollongong, Darwin, Canberra and even
Adelaide to put forward proposals for additional teams. However, it
is likely expansion will not happen for at least another few years.
If the A-League keeps up impressing across the board like it has,
it will have a very bright future.
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Melbourne Victory:
The BBW (BWB). - Lot's of noise, and credible visual diplays. Prone to Flares and an occassional brain fade (items chucked on the pitch - trying to 'Get at' visiting fans, which get's the dis-enfranchised NSL fans all frothy about hooliganism. Some of them have moved to the Victorian Premier League and are making right twats of themsleves.
The BBW (BWB). - Lot's of noise, and credible visual diplays. Prone to Flares and an occassional brain fade (items chucked on the pitch - trying to 'Get at' visiting fans, which get's the dis-enfranchised NSL fans all frothy about hooliganism. Some of them have moved to the Victorian Premier League and are making right twats of themsleves.
That couldn't be any more correct. It's good to see the kids living out their hooligan fantasies in the VPL instead where there's fark all security.
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We're the best fans eva!
So get stuffed HN you malaka.
Pierre told us so. 8)
So get stuffed HN you malaka.
Pierre told us so. 8)
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Best fans ever. Haha. You were being sarcastic right?
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Pierre told us so. 8)
So did Walter
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I went out with some of the Perth boys in Sydney the night Oz beat
Uraguay to qualify for the World Cup. What a bunch of characters.
I'm really looking forward to beating them!!
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don;t forget the beer HN.
It should really be a training program for this. Boss man buy fans beer, fans like boss man.
It's a win win situation for all.
It should really be a training program for this. Boss man buy fans beer, fans like boss man.
It's a win win situation for all.
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This is all fine stuff, and you NZ guys do know a lot about Oz
football. But there's the rub... you're from NEW ZEALAND. You came
within a whisker of dropping out of the A-League and unless Phoenix
do something dramatic then it'll be game over.
I know what the football culture is like there, I lived there for a while (but it was a while ago now). Unfortunately, You have a national football code that so dominates everything it's pathetic. We're lucky here that our codes are split geographically, that allows our football a chance to sneak in somewhat. Sydney v Melbourne in the A-League is the only real time in any football code here the 2 big cities get to have a crack at each other on equal terms.
Oh, and we made the world cup (and did well) and we are in Asia and we have a strong domestic league with good crowd figures (except for one non-Oz team). And Honiara was a nice change from Auckland for the wc play-offs to see who the 2nd best team in Oceania was.
If (when?) NZ lose the licence for A-League and Townsville or Canberra get the nod what will you go back to?
Not much.
But you could always adopt an Aussie A-League team to support like I assume most of you support a favoured Euro club team
. Sydney would be a wise choice.
And you'll always (yawn) have the All-Blacks. Remember football is our 4th most popular football code. What's yours?
I know what the football culture is like there, I lived there for a while (but it was a while ago now). Unfortunately, You have a national football code that so dominates everything it's pathetic. We're lucky here that our codes are split geographically, that allows our football a chance to sneak in somewhat. Sydney v Melbourne in the A-League is the only real time in any football code here the 2 big cities get to have a crack at each other on equal terms.
Oh, and we made the world cup (and did well) and we are in Asia and we have a strong domestic league with good crowd figures (except for one non-Oz team). And Honiara was a nice change from Auckland for the wc play-offs to see who the 2nd best team in Oceania was.
If (when?) NZ lose the licence for A-League and Townsville or Canberra get the nod what will you go back to?
Not much.
But you could always adopt an Aussie A-League team to support like I assume most of you support a favoured Euro club team
. Sydney would be a wise choice.And you'll always (yawn) have the All-Blacks. Remember football is our 4th most popular football code. What's yours?
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We may have been sh*t under the Knights, but at least our fans
stuck by us (OK there was only 2000 of us - but we were there every
match) unlike your bandwagoners.
Plus, we play ethically. More points deducted for you this year?
Plus, we play ethically. More points deducted for you this year?
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We may have been sh*t under the Knights, but at least our fans
stuck by us (OK there was only 2000 of us - but we were there every
match) unlike your bandwagoners.
Plus, we play ethically. More points deducted for you this year?
Plus, we play ethically. More points deducted for you this year?
Without bandwagoners Phonix are f*cked. It's a fact you'll learn soon enough.
btw, wtf IS your 4th football code? Did it get grand finals of 41k then 55k?
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LMFAO!!!!
See ya next season,
SDC cutting up Syndey yet again!!!!!
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Introduction to the A-League Part III:
The Fans (Part Two).
Queensland Roar:
The Den, Northern Element, Roar Rejects - The Dutch know about a bit of the hooligan element, but they have yet to instill in it in the little piece of Holland that is the Queensland Roar. New fan groups pop up every couple of months and merge ans split and regenerate. One of the lowest profile online fanbases, but one lad on the local forums named Ash who is as dim as any internet football fan in the league.
Newcastle Jets:
The Squadron - Boy they get frothy in Newcastle when you make jokes about needing permission slips to come to the game... still the video evidence doesn't lie. Massive hatred of the Centra Coast who really can't be bothered with them, which makes it much funnier.
Central Coast Mariners:
The Marinators - Long term fans who seem to do a lot to make sure Gosford got a club. Elements of theold Northern Spirit fan base (the other half seem to be among the Cove leaders). Know for being a good trip to Gosford and being pretty welcoming to local fans.
The Players (a selection).
Jamie Harnwell and Adrian Webster:
Long term Perth Glory Captain, best known for taking a slap for All White Adrian Webster after the full time whistle last season. Both of course were in Perth purple. Rumour did suggest that Webster only just beat his team mates to it, but he's out of a job and Harnwell is still there.
Bruce Djite and Nathan Burns:
The next great thing in Australian football according to the A-League bandwagoners. They conveniently forget that Djite's goal in the ACL last week was his first at this level which kind of makes him the Australian Brockie. Both played in a series against the NZ U-20's last year where Australia got Pwned.
David Zdrillic:
Close to the best comedy in the A-League. 1/6th of SUFC's salary cap for a player who scores about as often as a Bhuddist Monk... and contracted for three seasons...
Nicky Mrdja:
Mariners great attacking weapon, killed in the V1 pre-season cup (almost literally with Durante who's leg he broke) but has an allergy to the playing surface by all accounts now. Has played 3-4 games in two seasons.
David Carney:
The most one-footed player in history. Excellent in V1, but by V2 everyone had worked out that his one foot made him pretty limited and he was complete rubbish. You will still hear an occassional plaintive cry from a Sydney fan that it was Terry Butchers fault he failed last season, but even Super Branko Culina (he who engineered last weeks surrender in Indonesia, but doesn't make excuses) hasn't stopped him looking average with a capital A.
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The Fans (Part Two).
Queensland Roar:
The Den, Northern Element, Roar Rejects - The Dutch know about a bit of the hooligan element, but they have yet to instill in it in the little piece of Holland that is the Queensland Roar. New fan groups pop up every couple of months and merge ans split and regenerate. One of the lowest profile online fanbases, but one lad on the local forums named Ash who is as dim as any internet football fan in the league.
Newcastle Jets:
The Squadron - Boy they get frothy in Newcastle when you make jokes about needing permission slips to come to the game... still the video evidence doesn't lie. Massive hatred of the Centra Coast who really can't be bothered with them, which makes it much funnier.
Central Coast Mariners:
The Marinators - Long term fans who seem to do a lot to make sure Gosford got a club. Elements of theold Northern Spirit fan base (the other half seem to be among the Cove leaders). Know for being a good trip to Gosford and being pretty welcoming to local fans.
The Players (a selection).
Jamie Harnwell and Adrian Webster:
Long term Perth Glory Captain, best known for taking a slap for All White Adrian Webster after the full time whistle last season. Both of course were in Perth purple. Rumour did suggest that Webster only just beat his team mates to it, but he's out of a job and Harnwell is still there.
Bruce Djite and Nathan Burns:
The next great thing in Australian football according to the A-League bandwagoners. They conveniently forget that Djite's goal in the ACL last week was his first at this level which kind of makes him the Australian Brockie. Both played in a series against the NZ U-20's last year where Australia got Pwned.
David Zdrillic:
Close to the best comedy in the A-League. 1/6th of SUFC's salary cap for a player who scores about as often as a Bhuddist Monk... and contracted for three seasons...
Nicky Mrdja:
Mariners great attacking weapon, killed in the V1 pre-season cup (almost literally with Durante who's leg he broke) but has an allergy to the playing surface by all accounts now. Has played 3-4 games in two seasons.
David Carney:
The most one-footed player in history. Excellent in V1, but by V2 everyone had worked out that his one foot made him pretty limited and he was complete rubbish. You will still hear an occassional plaintive cry from a Sydney fan that it was Terry Butchers fault he failed last season, but even Super Branko Culina (he who engineered last weeks surrender in Indonesia, but doesn't make excuses) hasn't stopped him looking average with a capital A.
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