Cleaver is a dirty troll. Ok?

Cleaver is a dirty troll. Ok?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10705514


Ask ASB bank to withdraw its advertising for a week.

This article the only one on the website has a link as follows:

The All Blacks may have to wait until the Rugby World Cup for glory as last night's Halberg Awards went All White.

The national soccer side scored a hat-trick at the ceremony, winning the Halberg Award, being named Team of the Year with coach Ricki Herbert taking the Coach of the Year title.

Winston Reid's last-minute goal in the All Whites' first world cup finals game was also voted "New Zealand's favourite sporting moment".

Read: Dylan Cleaver on why the All Whites should not have won Halberg prize

This is the only ariticle congratulating the all whites on their site. Ask ASB to remove their advertising.

martinb2011-02-11 14:19:46

Right that does it. I'm cancelling my subscription right now!

Over reaction much? The Herald has many writers who are allowed to write their own thing. They have been pretty good in terms of football coverage and their editor doesn't seem bent against the sport, I wouldn't ask ASB to do anything of the sort.  rjmiller2011-02-11 13:30:47

You can just read them on the net for free. Just make sure you do or don't click on any adds.

No not over reaction.

The only article reporting on the win is a ill-informed biggoted piece of spuditity claiming they should have won the 'Warm Fuzzy Award' instead.

That is not news reporting (see above with the link on only article reporting the result). ASB are invested in the All Whites and their brand. The Herald are actively sabotaging great publicity for that.

Funny how we are all having a good laugh at how the rugby lads are getting pissed off with this then as soon as someone doesn't give the AWs the plaudits we feel they should receive it's BOYCOTTS!

Jag2011-02-11 13:34:24

No dick.

It's about reporting the Halberg awards in the main daily for the North Island.

There is no report just a diatribe about how they shouldn't have won it. Fair play to the All Blacks if they achieve something- I'm not going to knock that achievement. This is petty and unjournalistic.

sorry about the dick thing- but did you read that from Cleaver?

Yeh the Nix coverage has been good.
martinb2011-02-11 13:36:04

Its an opinion piece ffs!

Well how about getting a front page Terry Madford article or a Harper article rather than a halfbaked rant by a rugby league propping guy as your main reaction to the Halbergs win?

That would be fine with me...

In the 3rd paragraph of a report 'congratulating' the All Whites they link to see above.

edit:And now it is the only piece on the front page about the Halbergs. THEREFORE IT IS THE REPORT ON THE HALBERGS.

edit:Sorry correction, they are also running in the photo section ' Halberg judge quits in disgust'. Boycott, damaging ASB's football investment with biased reporting.




Are you really not pissed off by that?
martinb2011-02-11 13:42:06

Nope.

SeriouslyBoard2011-02-11 13:47:01

Cheers HN. you're right.

*moving to Wellington*

Perhaps ASB should take out a full page ad to that effect. not really likely to affect the editorial content though i guess...

Allow me to walk you through this:

If you have a web site with a million hits that says your product is crap twice, does that mean that the million people viewing that are likely to get the impression that it is good. The way they are reporting is attacking the achievement of the All Whites and the validity of their success.

It is the main piece about the Halbergs on the website and is strongly linked to in the difficult-to-locate report of the results.

There are no congratulatory articles. This is the ONLY paper for the upper north island.

I just wanted to know the results and perhaps get some response quotes and I ran into Joe stuck in the mud.
martinb2011-02-11 13:54:13

Wait, you want me to boycott ASB because someone had an opinion that differed to ours while at the same time criticizing Taylor for quitting the Helberg committee because people had a differening opinion to his?

I've boycotted the Herald years ago - and not because of the football coverage. Newspapers are are written for people with a reading age of 14, do people really expect anything of substance?

Nah- I was thinking ASB boycott the Herald for a week.

Ok Hard News has made me see reason. I'm leaving my keyboard.

There's wind, rain and politicians in Welly though...hmmm....

Wow. Settle down. It was one day where a couple of negative articles were bound to come out. There is also positive.

So did you read what I was saying and say why that isn't valid? If the only report of an event is an opinion piece that is the report. How is that wrong?

Reader discretion is probable. I'm just red misting dude. Leaving my keyboard.

Cleaver is a dick, and the Herald for only running 'The All Whites shouldn't have won' are dicks until they correct it.

And it's amended.

Tayler now top story. All Whites in the photo section holding the trophy, and Cleaver on the opinion bit.

ermmmm....


martinb2011-02-11 14:15:05

 mustve read here and been scared of the mighty fever boycott

You can not take the Herald too seriously when they are using the titles "soccer" and "movies" rather than "football" and"film".

Boycott any company that has an ad in the Herald!

Not sure but the photo links to a story called 'readers react': "It's PC BS and  says The All Whites shouldn't have even been there.

Ah ok I'm troll bait.

But really poor play to Granny.

Direct all complaints about the Herald website to:

Paul Harper
Backbencher Pub
34 Molesworth Street
Thorndon
Hours: Sometime before the game on Sunday. Complainant must shout beer.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/4643851/Ryan-Nelsen-deserved-sportsman-of-year-award

antidote:

Yet I can hear carping critics caterwauling already � "but they didn't win a game". Anyone still singing from that sad old song sheet just doesn't understand elite sport � or doesn't want to. Sadly, they include those who celebrate a cricket test draw as a success yet regard a soccer stalemate as failure.

So, let's spell it out again. The football World Cup is the pinnacle. A nation of four million people � one of the few in the world where football isn't the national sport � returned home from the finals as the only unbeaten team � an upset of gargantuan proportions. Reaching for a rugby equivalent, it would be like Georgia making the quarterfinals at this year's World Cup in New Zealand.

For further incontrovertible truth, look no further than the swathe of press cuttings from around the world. Even our brethren across the Tasman hailed the All Whites' feat as a triumph for "Australasia".

History will regard the All Whites' 2010 campaigns as one of the great underdog stories of international sport. Don't forget, too, that the Italians � all Serie A superstars and many of them World Cup winners in 2006 � cheated to earn their sole goal � a penalty � against little old New Zealand, ranked 74th in the world.

That was your article the other day right?

nice one. complaints to be submitted in beer form? ehhh....m.u.s.t. move to wellington...

Yip, that was mine.

Opinion pieces are to stir debate. Agree with the content or not, Cleaver's piece has done just that. And I'm sure one of our fantastic football writers will have a more than competent rebuttal on the way.

We have had straight news stories on the Halbergs which are appropriately congratulatory of the All Whites success.

I've always liked that Mark Richardson.

28 Judges voted and got this result...Why is one loud mouth t**ser (ie Tayler) getting all the play? Loser. Don't rain on other peoples parades. This was bloody well earned.