only skipped over this - but well done Terry Maddaford
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a timely story.
certainties:
Moss/Paston (2)
Sigmund, Nelsen, Vicelich, Reid, Smith, Lochhead, Boyens (7)
Elliott, Brown, Mcglinchey, Bertos (4)
Wood, Killen, Smeltz, Fallon (4)
So, I reckon 17 certainties, injuries aside.
Then we have probables:
Brockie, Barron, Bannatyne (3)
So, im thinking we have 20 that are likely to go, leaving one minor contest (Spoonley trying to dislodge Bannatyne) and one major contest (for the three remaining spots)
Contenders for three remaining spots:
Hayne, Coombes, Barbarouses, Old, Oughton, Scott, Mulligan, Rojas, anyone else?
I would take Hayne (to give us another wide option), Oughton (bc our midfield cover is thin) and Rojas (as the wildcard, although admittedly that is potentially controversial).
If Rojas is a bad idea, Brockie doesnt recover or somebody gets injured it opens doors for one of the others.
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Why is Moss a certainty? He can't play until our last game. And i thought Bannatyne was guaranteed as one of the 18 in the squad for the Bahrain tie?
Three for me, and two for them.
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Why is Moss a certainty? He can't play until our last game. And i thought Bannatyne was guaranteed as one of the 18 in the squad for the Bahrain tie?
im assuming Herbert has left himself a wee bit of wriggle room re the bahrain squad and Moss i think he will take bc he has previously suggested he would. but you could definitely assume slightly differently.
bascially, i think the 20 are very likely to go (with the question mark over Brockie leg), so that is my starting point.
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Pretty harsh on Banners no? Promising him a WC spot then going against your word and not picking him.
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what about mulligan?
Im pretty sure banners will go, hence in the probables,i suppose its possible he could take 4 keepers also
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4 keepers would be unheard of surely?
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Why would you take 4 keepers? Most wouldn't take 3 if they didn't have to.
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4 keepers would be unheard of surely?
probably a daft suggestion. but if he took moss and paston got injured against slovakia, he'd have no keeper on bench against italy
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Correct. Which is why we shouldn't take Moss at all. It's only a sympathy/apology vote that he's going to go.
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Correct. Which is why we shouldn't take Moss at all. It's only a sympathy/apology vote that he's going to go.
And you can't say his form has justified selection either... esp for one game - would prefer to see Banners & a young 'un leaving us with 2.5 keepers and 2 if Pasty breaks again... taking 4 is a bit mad - even for us
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Realistically though, Paston only has to not get injured in one match for 3 keepers to be plenty. 4 means an outfield spot is used up. Silly in my eyes. Take Paston, Moss and Banners and don't be so risk averse. Only Paston will play anyway. Hell you could take me and not have to worry that much. Keepers rarely get injured cause we're bred tough (read as 'too stupid to feel pain').
Its no longer a problem.
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Take Paston, Banners and Spoons and have three keepers you can actually use while you're there.
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Take Paston, Banners and Toffeeman and have three keepers you can actually use while you're there (although one might be pretty hungover everyday) and one who has already paid his own way.
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[QUOTE=Marius Lacatus] Rojas (as the wildcard, although admittedly that is potentially controversial).
i suppose it's only slightly more daft than Eng taking Walcott to the 2006 Cup
i suppose it's only slightly more daft than Eng taking Walcott to the 2006 Cup
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I would love to see Moss there but I'm coming round to the idea that he shouldn't go. We have been hard nosed about a lot of other things and this should be the same, imagine the possibility of not having a reserve keepe on the bench in a WC matchr, it's just amateur hour
I think Ricki's wriggle room is that "the 18 will go unless someone from outside that group shows they are more deserving". At the end of the day guys like Mulligan, Scott and Banners were unused substitutes in both legs so if they don't go it's not like they got us there and then are being let down
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Take Paston, Banners and Spoons and have three keepers you can actually use while you're there.
I disagree, with regard to injuries, suspensions etc. the (guaranted) game that is most likely to require the second/third keeper is the third group game (Paraguay). By this point Moss will be allowed to play, and of course would be favoured over Banners or Spoonley. Besides, we are unlikely to require two keepers, let alone 3. It's a calculated risk either way (Having no Keeper on the bench vs Spoonley starting against Paraguay) and I personally swing towards the option of taking Paston, Moss and Spoonley/Bannatyne (I'd personally opt for Banners).
As for that final spot, I'd prefer Costa over Marco as a "Wildcard." Costa has proven himself a wee bit more at both striker and winger, and would probably be more useful if needed.
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Take Paston, Banners and Spoons and have three keepers you can actually use while you're there.
I prefer Fankie Macs 3 choices
Its no longer a problem.
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I think Ricki's wriggle room is that "the 18 will go unless someone from outside that group shows they are more deserving". At the end of the day guys like Mulligan, Scott and Banners were unused substitutes in both legs so if they don't go it's not like they got us there and then are being let down
No but that isn't the point. The point is Ricki came out and publicly said the 18 players who were in the squad for both legs of the Bahrain tie are guaranteed a spot in the 23 to go to the World Cup. If he didn't actually mean it he shouldn't of said it. Otherwise he loses a lot of respect in my eyes.
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I don't care what he said, if Ricki does stick to that then he loses respect in my eyes for being stupid. Catch-22.
I'm all for Paston, Moss, Bannatyne/Spoonley but can certainly see the potential disaster.
And the idea of bringing Rojas in is simply terrible.
loyalgunner2010-04-02 11:08:51
I'm all for Paston, Moss, Bannatyne/Spoonley but can certainly see the potential disaster.
And the idea of bringing Rojas in is simply terrible.
loyalgunner2010-04-02 11:08:51
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I think Ricki's wriggle room is that "the 18 will go unless someone from outside that group shows they are more deserving".� At the end of the day guys like Mulligan, Scott�and Banners were unused substitutes in both legs so if they don't go it's not like they got us there and then are being let down
No but that isn't the point. The point is Ricki came out and publicly said the 18 players who were in the squad for both legs of the Bahrain tie are guaranteed a spot in the 23 to go to the World Cup. If he didn't actually mean it he shouldn't of said it. Otherwise he loses a lot of respect in my eyes.
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James is another option to go - hope he gets game time with Barnet - better option than Costa or Brockie.
On the keepers - didn't we put in a special request with FIFA to review the Moss suspension?
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Realistically though, Paston only has to not get injured in one match for 3 keepers to be plenty. 4 means an outfield spot is used up. Silly in my eyes. Take Paston, Moss and Banners and don't be so risk averse. Only Paston will play anyway. Hell you could take me and not have to worry that much. Keepers rarely get injured cause we're bred tough (read as 'too stupid to feel pain').
Take the Canterbury United keeper, he can cover as an outfielder in training games as well.
He has played midfield against Australia Secondary schools team and only changed to a full time keeper two seasons ago.
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