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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand#Sportshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:New_ZealandAlso if you have the time...last comment on the 16 February. Think I had a go at it a couple of years ago pointing out the Herald was the only major news source - TVNZ, Tv3, Stuff, Radio Sport and Radio NZ- that it wasn't used on.have to check on radio nz actually. Radio sport calls it soccer I think but their news stories at the time were about 50/50<h2><span id="Soccer_is_now_Football."></span></h2>
Some incredible discussion in there!
OTD also continue to use the S word
Write to them too.
Wish Crowd Goes Wild would stop calling it the 's' word.
The subs at the community paper I write for (Coromandel's finest - the Hauraki Herald)�keep changing�football to the "s" word whenever I write a football story.�I even put Football Fever in a photo caption kicker and they changed it Soccer Fever - getting rid of my clever alliteration.
Write a story about the difference between football and rugby and see if they can change that. Mention why soccer is an abbreviated slang word for association football but not used by fans and that Rugger is an abbreviated slang word for rugby union but is not used by rugby fans. Explain why football is the first sport invented and by birthright it has first dibs on the word football and rugby is a spin off of that football game and only has the name "football" by proxy and not by usage. Rugby people hardly called Rugby as football and there is no real reason for confusion. Also that old incident over a rugby cup with a round ball on it should show that rugby people don't ask for cups made for football because makers assumed it was for football and not rugby. etc etc [plenty of examples out there.]
It would be hard for them to change anything because it is quite clear the intention of the article and if they change it, the article reads nonsense. Also it provoke a bit of public interest for the paper which they should like.
I think that there at least one person in that paper is an old rugbyhead who does not want football to take the name because it threats his dumb ego.
Give a shot, because as long as you stick to your guns, they would have to relent.
Be happy soccer is getting publicity at all imo.
Fixed.
Personally I find the "s" word very offensive if used amongst people who've been into their football for years.
I reluctantly let it slide, though, when said by n00bs.
Why is the Jo'berg stadium called "Soccer City Stadium"?
Sorry no idea, but it is Jo'burg.
It's a bit like Pantene.� It won't happen overnight, but it will happen.
inclined to agree, but it will require a bit of effort from people
question posed by some on here "why is it important?"
answer = branding
Most South Africans call it soccer I think.
Why is the Jo'berg stadium called "Soccer City Stadium"?
Most South Africans call it soccer I think.
Why is the Jo'berg stadium called "Soccer City Stadium"?
Also the assonance of the 's' sound is supposed to be a technique there..
Bloody Jarpies.
Sorry it is Yarpies.
Muct be because it is Sunday and I am thinking about another working Monday.
Muct
Sorry it is must.
Bloody Jarpies.
Sorry it is Yarpies.
Muct be because it is Sunday and I am thinking about another working Monday.
Its actually Japies
edit: or can anglicised to Yarpies aitkenmike2010-05-30 20:59:40
Sorry it is must.
Muct
It is, can't see the keys too well in the dark.
Why is the Jo'berg stadium called "Soccer City Stadium"?
Dunno, just urban slang in Jo'berg.
Controversy rages. A constant email stream arrives at the Herald, expressing everything from frustration to outrage that this newspaper refers to the beautiful game as soccer rather than football.
This is not a matter up to writers and reporters.
The word soccer has been set as the Herald's style, to distinguish the game from other football codes.
People in high Herald places say the newspaper will not buckle.
(source)
The New Zealand Herald
The Herald insist on calling football by its 'other' name, despite New Zealand Football changing its name 3 years ago now.
Contact them here to let them know your collective disgust.
Contact them here to let them know your collective disgust.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand#Sports
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:New_Zealand
Also if you have the time...last comment on the 16 February. Think I had a go at it a couple of years ago pointing out the Herald was the only major news source - TVNZ, Tv3, Stuff, Radio Sport and Radio NZ- that it wasn't used on.
have to check on radio nz actually. Radio sport calls it soccer I think but their news stories at the time were about 50/50
martinb2010-04-27 19:28:52
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:New_Zealand
Also if you have the time...last comment on the 16 February. Think I had a go at it a couple of years ago pointing out the Herald was the only major news source - TVNZ, Tv3, Stuff, Radio Sport and Radio NZ- that it wasn't used on.
have to check on radio nz actually. Radio sport calls it soccer I think but their news stories at the time were about 50/50
martinb2010-04-27 19:28:52
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand#Sportshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:New_ZealandAlso if you have the time...last comment on the 16 February. Think I had a go at it a couple of years ago pointing out the Herald was the only major news source - TVNZ, Tv3, Stuff, Radio Sport and Radio NZ- that it wasn't used on.have to check on radio nz actually. Radio sport calls it soccer I think but their news stories at the time were about 50/50<h2><span id="Soccer_is_now_Football."></span></h2>
Some incredible discussion in there!
Let them continue to show the world that they are a bunch of muppets with no journalistic integrity I say.
OTD also continue to use the S word
Write to them too.
The subs at the community paper I write for (Coromandel's finest - the Hauraki Herald) keep changing football to the "s" word whenever I write a football story. I even put Football Fever in a photo caption kicker and they changed it Soccer Fever - getting rid of my clever alliteration.
Waikato Times uses the "s" word too. It's shoddy journalism if you ask me. Perhaps I should go on strike.
I would strike over that.
Wish Crowd Goes Wild would stop calling it the 's' word.
That show is notorious for not calling things by their proper names. After all they continue to call the hosts of the show Andrew and Mark rather than their actual names, Penis and Testicle!!!!
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Waikato Times uses the "s" word too. It's shoddy journalism if you ask me. Perhaps I should go on strike.
Write a story about the difference between football and rugby and see if they can change that. Mention why soccer is an abbreviated slang word for association football but not used by fans and that Rugger is an abbreviated slang word for rugby union but is not used by rugby fans. Explain why football is the first sport invented and by birthright it has first dibs on the word football and rugby is a spin off of that football game and only has the name "football" by proxy and not by usage. Rugby people hardly called Rugby as football and there is no real reason for confusion. Also that old incident over a rugby cup with a round ball on it should show that rugby people don't ask for cups made for football because makers assumed it was for football and not rugby. etc etc [plenty of examples out there.]
It would be hard for them to change anything because it is quite clear the intention of the article and if they change it, the article reads nonsense. Also it provoke a bit of public interest for the paper which they should like.
I think that there at least one person in that paper is an old rugbyhead who does not want football to take the name because it threats his dumb ego.
Give a shot, because as long as you stick to your guns, they would have to relent.
Or, don't worry about it.
It's hardly the largest issue facing the game.
Yea, this argument annoys me some what.
I mean, who f**king cares as long as people are talking about the game?
Mr_Incredible2010-04-30 16:03:07
I mean, who f**king cares as long as people are talking about the game?
Mr_Incredible2010-04-30 16:03:07
Be happy football is getting publicity at all imo.
Edit: Oh Snap Dan!!
simon_hampton2010-04-30 16:04:26
Edit: Oh Snap Dan!!
Fixed.
Personally I find the "s" word very offensive if used amongst people who've been into their football for years.
I reluctantly let it slide, though, when said by n00bs.
I am insisting on calling egg-ball egg-ball and snail boat racing snail boat racing.
I got remotely interest in the football vs. soccer terminology when I first signed up here because some of you guys were so passionate about it. I got worked up about it when I kept seeing and hearing "soccer" in the media - for a few weeks at most.
Then I got over it.
I realised that if we make a big fuss over this then the casual public (ie. football fans of the future) will look upon the followers of the sport as a pack of whinging moaners with nothing better to do than complain about how people refer to the beautiful game.
For the record I prefer football to soccer but as repeatedly pointed out, it is hardly important on the grand scale of things.
Then I got over it.
I realised that if we make a big fuss over this then the casual public (ie. football fans of the future) will look upon the followers of the sport as a pack of whinging moaners with nothing better to do than complain about how people refer to the beautiful game.
For the record I prefer football to soccer but as repeatedly pointed out, it is hardly important on the grand scale of things.
It's a bit like Pantene. It won't happen overnight, but it will happen.
Just keep calling it football despite some media and non-footy followers calling it soccer and it will change in the next few* years.
(when Bombay was changed to Mumbai or Peking to Beijing, the world kept turning)
*Edit: "few" equals a number between 5 amd 50
Junior822010-05-27 12:20:29
spoke to a Herlad dude yest who said they decided to start calling it football post Bahrain game
Huge lie.
Their section is still entitled 'soccer'' http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/headlines.cfm?c_id=4
Their section is still entitled 'soccer'' http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/headlines.cfm?c_id=4
Interesting that Sydney Morning Herald calls it football, but The Age in Melbourne calls if soccer so as not to offend the AFL crowd. Both papers owned by Fairfax and share much content.
Marius Lacatus2010-05-27 14:54:28
Why is the Jo'berg stadium called "Soccer City Stadium"?
Sorry no idea, but it is Jo'burg.
Bloody Jarpies.
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Just keep calling it football despite some media and non-footy followers calling it soccer and it will change in the next few* years.
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(when Bombay was changed to Mumbai or Peking to Beijing, the world kept turning)
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*Edit:�"few" equals a number between 5 amd 50
inclined to agree, but it will require a bit of effort from people
question posed by some on here "why is it important?"
answer = branding
WTF happened to Michael Brown's shift key in this?, absolutely no capitals. I noticed in the link it has soccer-football though.
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WTF happened to Michael Brown's shift key in this?, absolutely no capitals. I noticed in the link it has soccer-football though.
Also the assonance of the 's' sound is supposed to be a technique there..
Sorry it is Yarpies.
Muct be because it is Sunday and I am thinking about another working Monday.
Sorry it is must.
Sorry it is Yarpies.
Muct be because it is Sunday and I am thinking about another working Monday.
Its actually Japies
edit: or can anglicised to Yarpies aitkenmike2010-05-30 20:59:40
Yep. When work looms, I always think about Japies.
It is, can't see the keys too well in the dark.
Electricity not discovered yet in Queensland?
Oh EG, that could of been a great joke except you need electricity to get on a computer and therefore access the internet.
Not if you're using a wi-fi lap-top.
I guess.
I guess.
Dunno, just urban slang in Jo'berg.
Controversy rages. A constant email stream arrives at the Herald, expressing everything from frustration to outrage that this newspaper refers to the beautiful game as soccer rather than football.
This is not a matter up to writers and reporters.
The word soccer has been set as the Herald's style, to distinguish the game from other football codes.
People in high Herald places say the newspaper will not buckle.
(source)
a lot of discussion on rad sport this morning on this. herald taking quite a lot of stick
For simplicity sake, "soccer" cannot be confused with any other sport, whilst "football" can.
You have to take into account who your target market is for your publication and Auckland would probably need to have the distinction clarified as the other forms of football (rugby union & rugby league) are more prevalently covered on their sports pages than the pure form of football.