Who will make up the 12 team
Socceroo/ Mariner / Whangarei
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The following article from the smh shows who wants to be part of the future of the A-League there are four very strong bids ......... three are super strong being second Melb, Second Sydney & Gong .......... in a 12 team format one of threse three bids has to be told no.
Without trying to ring alarm bells as you have Frank Lowy on your side ........ but performance and your ability to bring crowds away from home could become an important issue in a couple of years......... when you consider who wants to get in.
As an aside a link from MVFF http://www.melbournevictory.net/forum/showthread.php?t=49724 about the current discussion of you guys in the end I would say 60% in favour and 40% nay .........but your performance is starting to become an issue with football fans ........ not the FFA ........ so time is on your side
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From smh
http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/foo...956398861.html
THE battle to be the A-League's 12th team is poised to become a fight between Western Sydney and the NSW South Coast over which region is football's heartland.
With a second Melbourne team all but guaranteed entry into the A-League, four potential new clubs are vying for one place in Football Federation Australia's latest expansion plan for the season, following the 2010 World Cup.
At least two entities are formulating bids to represent Western Sydney, while Wollongong-based South Coast Football Club, Canberra, and Tasmania are building public profiles.
The Sun-Herald has received information that FFA this year commissioned a confidential report to assess the viability of each major region in Australia to host a new A-League team.
Western Sydney was placed first by a clear margin, followed by Melbourne, Gold Coast, Townsville, Wollongong and Canberra.
With expansion clubs Townsville and Gold Coast joining in 2009, the next stage of A-League development is expected to centre on which region can claim to be the "soul" of Australian football.
"The question is whether it is time to say Western Sydney is a priority," an A-League source close to the bid process said. "It is traditionally the heartland."
Although Sydney already has an A-League side, supporters for a new club point to a roll-call including Harry Kewell, Paul Okon, Mark Schwarzer, Mark Bosnich, Zeljko Kalac, Brett Emerton, and former Italy star Christian Vieri, as locals who reached the pinnacle of the world game.
Potential headquarters for a Western Sydney team include Homebush Bay, Parramatta, Blacktown, Penrith and Campbelltown.
FFA will not disclose details of the Western Sydney bids and entities have been instructed by the governing body to not speak publicly about their progress.
However, sources suggest one potential franchise has signed an agreement with a major stadium and a local council is prepared to significantly invest in a team.
But Eddy De Gabriele, chairman of South Coast Football Club, said his region has equal claim to being the cradle of Australian football.
"Look at our region's history," De Gabriele said. "Don't look at what we will do, look at what we have done in the past.
"Look at the type of people that we are breeding. Look at the football heritage that we have here.
"Scott Chipperfield, Luke Wilkshire, Ruben Zadkovich, Adam Federici and Mile Sterjovski are a stone's throw away from where we live and breathe.
"We are able to produce these national-quality players without a national team in this region. What would we do if we did? Wouldn't the Socceroos and Pim [Verbeek] want to tap into this nursery?"
The next step for the four hopeful franchises are negotiations with FFA over an exclusive licence that will begin next month.
Key criteria includes the "best strategic fit" and a new team that won't put undue pressure or stress on other clubs. Another factor in any expansion timetable is that each team costs FFA $1.5 million each year, highlighting the importance of financial windfalls from 2010 World Cup qualification.
"What we are doing at South Coast FC is saying to the FFA that this is our entity that will sell the product of national football," De Gabriele said.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/foo...956398861.html
THE battle to be the A-League's 12th team is poised to become a fight between Western Sydney and the NSW South Coast over which region is football's heartland.
With a second Melbourne team all but guaranteed entry into the A-League, four potential new clubs are vying for one place in Football Federation Australia's latest expansion plan for the season, following the 2010 World Cup.
At least two entities are formulating bids to represent Western Sydney, while Wollongong-based South Coast Football Club, Canberra, and Tasmania are building public profiles.
The Sun-Herald has received information that FFA this year commissioned a confidential report to assess the viability of each major region in Australia to host a new A-League team.
Western Sydney was placed first by a clear margin, followed by Melbourne, Gold Coast, Townsville, Wollongong and Canberra.
With expansion clubs Townsville and Gold Coast joining in 2009, the next stage of A-League development is expected to centre on which region can claim to be the "soul" of Australian football.
"The question is whether it is time to say Western Sydney is a priority," an A-League source close to the bid process said. "It is traditionally the heartland."
Although Sydney already has an A-League side, supporters for a new club point to a roll-call including Harry Kewell, Paul Okon, Mark Schwarzer, Mark Bosnich, Zeljko Kalac, Brett Emerton, and former Italy star Christian Vieri, as locals who reached the pinnacle of the world game.
Potential headquarters for a Western Sydney team include Homebush Bay, Parramatta, Blacktown, Penrith and Campbelltown.
FFA will not disclose details of the Western Sydney bids and entities have been instructed by the governing body to not speak publicly about their progress.
However, sources suggest one potential franchise has signed an agreement with a major stadium and a local council is prepared to significantly invest in a team.
But Eddy De Gabriele, chairman of South Coast Football Club, said his region has equal claim to being the cradle of Australian football.
"Look at our region's history," De Gabriele said. "Don't look at what we will do, look at what we have done in the past.
"Look at the type of people that we are breeding. Look at the football heritage that we have here.
"Scott Chipperfield, Luke Wilkshire, Ruben Zadkovich, Adam Federici and Mile Sterjovski are a stone's throw away from where we live and breathe.
"We are able to produce these national-quality players without a national team in this region. What would we do if we did? Wouldn't the Socceroos and Pim [Verbeek] want to tap into this nursery?"
The next step for the four hopeful franchises are negotiations with FFA over an exclusive licence that will begin next month.
Key criteria includes the "best strategic fit" and a new team that won't put undue pressure or stress on other clubs. Another factor in any expansion timetable is that each team costs FFA $1.5 million each year, highlighting the importance of financial windfalls from 2010 World Cup qualification.
"What we are doing at South Coast FC is saying to the FFA that this is our entity that will sell the product of national football," De Gabriele said.
Socceroo/ Mariner / Whangarei
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The interesting thing and what could well be a complicating factor in a lot of these bids is that not only is the bottom falling out of the economy, and I imagine this will hit Lowy hard but also the bottom is coming out of the Resource Boom. The money that exists in Australia now may not be around in the next 4 or 5 years
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Bopman
For the two orginal spots the FFA offered received 10 very strong bids including bids from Tassie & the ACT with state government backing. The Gold Coast & Northern Queensaland won out.
You need to understand that its the membership of the ACLis the big driver, Asian is expected to be the new power house this century so the money will not go away.
When the bids come out at the Mainers we determined our we would not have got in as all ten bids were better than the Mariners orginal bid. The gong is also backed by Bruce Gordon who owns WIN corporation, WIN are in NSW, VIC & QLD the biggest regional TV broadcaster, the WS bid has people like Harry Kwell behind it with Harry wanting to set ap a youth training academy and remember the WS & the Gong their have been 8 former NSL clubs and these areas have produced about 45% of the Socceroos. Who do you say no to ............ then the question becomes from some ......and not the FFA because of Frank Lowy, .... what do the Nix bring to the table are they drawing in NZERS to football, when we have two such strong bids.
As I said it is not a problem right now ........ but if things don't change concerning crowds and results ....... questions may be askwed ? ? ?
Midfielder2008-11-04 18:10:09Socceroo/ Mariner / Whangarei
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The money that has been in the Australian economy for the last 5 years will not be there in the next 10. FACT. It will effect these bids.
It doesn't take a genuis to figure out why our signings have dried up, Terry has been hit hard. It will happen to other teams if it isn't already
It doesn't take a genuis to figure out why our signings have dried up, Terry has been hit hard. It will happen to other teams if it isn't already
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Why are the FFA obesssed with cutting up Sydney and Melbourne in to 2 teams?? If I were a Melbourne fan, how could you get me to ditch my already supported club and become a fan of the new franchise? What about Sydney fans already being very halfassed towards supporting their team, just look at the crowd numbers, so by dividing that further would dramatically dillute their fanbase.
Canberra in my opinion HAS to have a team! They are large enough, have done well with organising their women's team, and Oz has got to have their capital city in the HAL surely. They are also spread out enough from other HAL teams to have a decent fanbase and not intrude on others.
Tasmania is a longshot, but if they could prove they can sustain the type of crowds seen at Melbourne Victory PSC games, then maybe.
Wollongong, like Robb said, is a strong contender. The Wolves were one of the strongest teams back in the old NSL, so they have to be granted a spot based on that alone. Don't think for a minute the FFA would have given Perth an HAL license to begin with if the Glory weren't one of, if not THE, most successful club in the old NSL!
shabba1212008-11-06 19:11:07
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Melbourne and Sydney fans won't be split, there are many, many people in Melbourne who despise the Victory and the people in Western and Southern Sydney aren't embracing the Bling because of the travel involved in getting to the SFS, among other things.
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