Didn't get chance to watch World Of Football last night was there
any NZFC mention? or coverage of Auckland Citys O'League win?
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They plugged it (the O League) early in the show, but I got sick of
watching poor old Dennis try and illicit a full sentence from that
moron De Jong and turned over to Heroes.
Sorry, I know that makes me a poor fan, but Fred just kills it
for me. Noah Hickey would be vastly superior...and is almost
as much of a media wh*re as cnut 
Ring the changes Sky.
smithy2462007-10-30 08:59:14
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
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I caught the end of it.
They interviewed Chris Milicich at reasonable length at
what looked like Lotto's lock-up.
On the bit i caught I thought fred was quite succinct. in the
absence of a top coach analysing affairs, I can live with his
input.
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Succinct is one word for it.
I'm not too fussed about who they are, as long as what they
say makes sense and they are good on camera.
Fred, to be fair to him, does make sense but he's not verbose
enough to be a go-to comments man on a show like that. At
least not for me. He always seems wrong-footed when Dennis
throws him a question.
I don't know who produces/directs the show, but perhaps
they're not sure what they want out of him, and aren't giving him
clear enough instruction.
Perhaps he needs training, not changing.
He's a terrible commentator too, for the same reason: can't ad
lib more than three or four words at a time.
Another gripe I have is them playing Dennis's dance music CDs
as a bed for their european football highlights, even when there's
commentary. Why would you? The footage and the
commentary stand on their own, surely.
I know it doesn't seem like it, but I do feel bad being
critical. It's a good show, it just needs the rough edges
knocking off it.
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
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I must admit although i missed it this week, i agree with you Smithy. The show is very amateur looking and needs someone who has produced a proper sports show to produce it, not someone who clearly has no clue!
It has potential to be the NZ 'Match of the Day' but at the moment with that muppet presenting it and the terrible soundtrack its nowhere near up to standard! No wonder 'soccer' in this country continues to be viewed as amateur and a shambles when 'The World of Football' is its TV promotion!
Get it sorted Sky! and Noah gets my vote to present it!
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I've recorded it but did see a bit of an interview with Commons
Menapi (sp?) talking about the importance of the O-League to the
development of football in the Pacific Islands.
Selhurst Park, 25 January 1995
What else could he have done?
What else could he have done?
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I also hate the music. I think it detracts from focusing on what
are some very good clips of the action. I can't see that it adds
anything and it really gets on my tits. I'd rather have a sound
track of the commentary.
But to be fair, the standard is light years better than the
House of Football a few years back.
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Yeah, they showed the goals. ACFC won about 48 - 0 didn't they.
I agree about big Fred and the cheesy music. Get rid of
Fred and the music then try to put together a good football show,
one that doesn't look like it was made by a bunch of 14 year olds
as a school project.
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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they showed heaps of highlights.
Auckland trashing that islanders team 6-0 with Brian Little in
great form....
Plus all the A-League highlights and a few interviews from
Waitakere utd
VUW AFC - Victoria University Football for life
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I also hate the music. I think it detracts from focusing on what
are some very good clips of the action. I can't see that it adds
anything and it really gets on my tits. I'd rather have a sound
track of the commentary.
But to be fair, the standard is light years better than the
House of Football a few years back.
I think you're right, and I have a sneaking suspicion that
it's down to Dennis learning by doing. He has certainly
progressed as a host.
The music is an annoyance, and I hope they read this and give
it the archer.
Referring back to bobbyG's post, which I can't be arsed
quoting, they could and should take some pointers from MOTD.
I'm no broadcaster, but I would say there are two things they could
do straight away that would improve the show immensely:
1. Copy the set arrangement: buy a cheap couch and do away
with the artificially-angled armchairs. And,
2. Make it a panel show: Fred isn't enough alone, but
Fred+Noah+Guest vs Dennis would give it more conversation.
Lastly, I can understand the rationale of doing
interviews at Champs BUT it does give an amateur-hour feel to
the thing. I thought the Waitak player interviews were good,
but could have benefitted from a better venue. I
wouldn't have bothered interviewing Tottori, who only had
three or four words of English to share. Not his fault, just
don't put him on the tele.
Oh and one more thing. If Dennis is going to
interview a seven foot man, either stand him on a box or do the
interview on a slope or some stairs so that the interviewee
doesn't look like he's being interviewed by a midget!
Smithy.
PS: I sure am glad my job doesn't get scrutinised on a
forum like this. If I had people publicising their views
on my ability all day I'd throw myself off a building. Dennis
- keep the GOOD WORK up. We do love it that you're on
the tele at all!
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
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I know what they have on the show, what I am saying is the quality
of the programme is sh*t!
Surely Sky could do better! Lets hope there is extended
NZFC highlights this season.
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Hate the music, hate it when they have Mark on.
I like Dennis, he's improving all the time.
Also I like Fred on the show, I like the way he tells it
as he sees it and love his sense of humour.
A dog with a bone :)
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I wasn't aware of Fred having a sense of humour, I suppose you
learn something everyday.
As long as they don't play that, "football, we love football, yeah, football, it's the greatest game!" song then I'm not too fussed.
As long as they don't play that, "football, we love football, yeah, football, it's the greatest game!" song then I'm not too fussed.
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I thought it was a good show this week. Good to see Akld City game.
Dennis is good value
Founder
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Hey mods, any news (hard or not) on whether there is a highlights
show this year? I battled hard with Football NZ to no avail
last year as was slightly aggrieved there was only 60 seconds of
the Auckland games to no avail.
I let my guitar speak for me
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I seriously doubt it.
Expect some on WofF but like last week, mostly Auckland focussed.
Like everything, no $$ to fund it.
Expect some on WofF but like last week, mostly Auckland focussed.
Like everything, no $$ to fund it.
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Bugga. I can't sit through WOF, it's just too painful.
Can't be that expensive to put a show together, Canty Utd's get
filmed every week, so it is just airing it, and the Auck games
always seem to have cameras, so its just a few others then
innit?
Bit sad having our national league having no showing on the
telly.
I let my guitar speak for me
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If you guys are looking for a decent sports show; I'd recommend the
Crowd Goes Wild on Prime @ 7.
Very laid back but good coverage of football too esp champions league etc
Very laid back but good coverage of football too esp champions league etc
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Highlights package can't be too expensive!!! I helped put one
together for the sport my kids do a wee while back. We did it on
the cheap, at one venue, and got two 1 hour shows. It cost $12,000
- and that was at cost. Cameras are around $700 a person per half
day, so multiply that by four for just one camera at each game -
and you need at least three for a professional looking product.
Editing time is serious dollars and it takes many hours to view,
cut and voice an hour - the rule of thumb is about 1 hour for each
minute .
It can't be done unless you have serious dollars. World of
Football is done on a shoestring. Be grateful you have it.
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In reply to the previous post, I don't quite think you have got the
point here, we aren't talking about trying to get table tennis
coverage here, we are talking about the biggest sport in the world!
And if we all have the attitude that we should be
grateful for what we've got then God help this sport in this
country! For me it is small minded 'too hard basket', 'too
expensive basket' people that make the sport here stand still!
I don't think it is too much to ask that The NZFC gets better
match coverage! I mean come on! there is some right crap broadcast
on Sky Sports that clearly must be funded from somewhere. How about
putting a bit of effort into covering the most popular sport in the
rest of the world!
Which incidentially is the most participated junior sport in
New Zealand.
bobbyG2007-10-31 15:13:58
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Im all for your idea bobbyG, but who do you propose pays for it?
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$150k minimum to do for one season, form a source in the know.
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A great format for the show would be something along the lines of
PTI (ESPN program) or Sportscenter (another ESPN show) - so slick
and the guys (and girls) know what they are talking about AND they
are funny.
Michael Wilbon and Tony Kornheiser would rock WOF (check out ESPN tonight around 8pm if you dont knw what the hell im talking about!)
Michael Wilbon and Tony Kornheiser would rock WOF (check out ESPN tonight around 8pm if you dont knw what the hell im talking about!)
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There is nothing to be grateful about WOF. We're talking NZFC
remember. The one that is shown for about 2 minutes with only games
played in Auckland covered. Tell me why we should be thankful
for that?
Oh and don't get me started on those product
placements...
I let my guitar speak for me
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What magic bag is the money going to appear from to fund all
this.Its great having all these ideas but the fact is just where do
you expect the money to come from,they struggle to get money to
fund the game in NZ without also trying to find the money for a TV
show.
GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS
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It's called investment. It's called advertising. You put your product on TV, people see it, get interested in it, and then buy it. Worked for Coke.
I let my guitar speak for me
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Sky pays for stuff all. All those small sports and extra coverage they get, they are supplied and the wee sports have to beg borrow and scrape to foot the bill. Sky will not pay for squat. Except for us diehards, the NZFC struggles for acceptance in football circles. Sky know this, you know this and they ain't going to spend any money covering it. Until we start rocking up in numbers, like they do for the Phoenix, or NZFC find a sponsor, it is not going to be broadcast. And to be honest, you would not want to much of it on air because it does not compare favourably with the other football product on TV. It's like grassroots rugby on TV, who really watches that.
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Hopefully after the disaster that was the All Blacks at the World
Cup, New Zealand might wake up and realise that rugby isn't all
that its cracked up to be and put some effort into the real
football!
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What I saw of last night's WoF was very good.
The segment I saw was Hickey, Elrich and Katsanos having a chit chat about various subjects and was very good. Hickey is a natural on tele, Elrich goes alright and Katsanos holds it together quite well.
A big improvement on the bit I saw of the previous week's show.
The segment I saw was Hickey, Elrich and Katsanos having a chit chat about various subjects and was very good. Hickey is a natural on tele, Elrich goes alright and Katsanos holds it together quite well.
A big improvement on the bit I saw of the previous week's show.
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
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I thought Hickey was good last night, mentioned Yellow fever as
well 
Not
sure about Elrich tho', maybe it's me, but he never seems to answer
a question. Always starts waffling on about something
else. Auckland Jag2007-11-06 14:44:32
Not
sure about Elrich tho', maybe it's me, but he never seems to answer
a question. Always starts waffling on about something
else. Auckland Jag2007-11-06 14:44:32
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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Saw it last nite, Still think it look ultra amateur and the
product placement is ridiculous! Can you imagine Match of the Day
having a bicycle in the corner that every now and again gets zoomed
into so all us massive biking fans can have a closer look!
Hickey was good value and should be involved more,
Elrich comes across rite up his own arse, not funny and
not interesting.
On a positive good to see more NZFC although the editing was
piss poor!
Some readers mite think my moaning is unjustified, but the
reality is i pay Xtra for Sky and expect some level of quality
above primary school productions! Plus i only got sky for the
football!
Premier League and A league match coverage is very good,
limited ad breaks and informative commentary.
World of Football is still embarrasing and should be
better!
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I only got round to watching Monday's show last night and I also
think it is fine. Elrick seems pretty good on TV, comfortable
and knowledgeable. Dennis does a good job with the voice
overs on the NZFC games (obviously added later which is not
easy). The mix of coverage between NZFC, A-League, O-League,
and international was interesting. Can't say I worry too much
about the set (pretty standard for the type of show I would have
thought). Finally, Team Wellington looked good on the
highlights so what a bonus!
I can't see why anyone would be so negative about the
show.
Selhurst Park, 25 January 1995
What else could he have done?
What else could he have done?
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Someone expects better standards from a show that is covering the
most popular sport in the world!
If i was into say babminton i'd expect the standard of
coverage to be average (because of the overall popularity of the
sport). But this is football! Some of us and clearly not the
previous poster, live and breathe football! Its not a sport,
its a religion!
Come on... Raise your standards!
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This show continues to run hot and cold for me.
Am currently loving the NZFC coverage, but a minute ago the dialogue was this:
Dennis: "So, Fred, are you the gym going type or not?"
Fred:"No, not me."
Dennis: "Oh, good, so you don't go to the gym much then?"
Fred: "Nah I've never been into it."
Dennis: "Well, our friends at Bodycrunch sure do run a good gym, you sure we couldn't get you to sign up?"
Fred: "Probably not."
I mean honestly, who gives a f**k?
Am currently loving the NZFC coverage, but a minute ago the dialogue was this:
Dennis: "So, Fred, are you the gym going type or not?"
Fred:"No, not me."
Dennis: "Oh, good, so you don't go to the gym much then?"
Fred: "Nah I've never been into it."
Dennis: "Well, our friends at Bodycrunch sure do run a good gym, you sure we couldn't get you to sign up?"
Fred: "Probably not."
I mean honestly, who gives a f**k?
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
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And the big question is: who was the guy with the camera at Newtown
Park yesterday and why didn't HoF have some footage of that game?
Or any other game?
Good interview with the Baron too - a solid mention for the Fever.
smithy2462007-11-12 20:53:14
Good interview with the Baron too - a solid mention for the Fever.
smithy2462007-11-12 20:53:14
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
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great interview with Andy Barron
All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight
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Boring. Thank god I had the forum to read while Fred and
Dennis were trying to bore me to death.
Where the hell was Noah this week?
Where the hell was Noah this week?
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
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This show continues to run hot and cold for me.
Am currently loving the NZFC coverage, but a minute ago the dialogue was this:
Dennis: "So, Fred, are you the gym going type or not?"
Fred:"No, not me."
Dennis: "Oh, good, so you don't go to the gym much then?"
Fred: "Nah I've never been into it."
Dennis: "Well, our friends at Bodycrunch sure do run a good gym, you sure we couldn't get you to sign up?"
Fred: "Probably not."
I mean honestly, who gives a f**k?
Am currently loving the NZFC coverage, but a minute ago the dialogue was this:
Dennis: "So, Fred, are you the gym going type or not?"
Fred:"No, not me."
Dennis: "Oh, good, so you don't go to the gym much then?"
Fred: "Nah I've never been into it."
Dennis: "Well, our friends at Bodycrunch sure do run a good gym, you sure we couldn't get you to sign up?"
Fred: "Probably not."
I mean honestly, who gives a f**k?
clearly, Fred doesn't
I'm actually beginning to like his deadpan style, - he's a man with (well) hidden talents! Good onya Fred.
tigers2007-11-12 21:24:48
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