John Matheson - take a bow
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Yeah that's awful. I can see why you'd pick Elliott for the squad, it's because he's a midfielder. Nelsen will provide experience at CB (provided he gets a release) and Killen will give us that cutting edge up front so it makes sense to have another veteran in the middle of the pitch to steady things in that area. It is strange that Vicelich wasn't at least named in that preliminary squad as a plan B in the event that Nelsen doesn't get a release from Rovers, but that's neither here nor there, and certainly shouldn't have anything to do with Elliott's selection.
Also, the stuff about how he stopped playing in the first team and then highlighting some bad results is really disgraceful. It is pretty hard to be selected if you are out with a long term injury...
Also, the stuff about how he stopped playing in the first team and then highlighting some bad results is really disgraceful. It is pretty hard to be selected if you are out with a long term injury...
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Matheson's NZ football writing instrument:
Probably the worst article since Lindsay Knight's suggestion that it was virtually unpatriotic for a New Zealander to support anything BUT rugby, and that Phoenix fans were band-wagon supporters.
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Probably the worst article since Lindsay Knight's suggestion that it was virtually unpatriotic for a New Zealander to support anything BUT rugby, and that Phoenix fans were band-wagon supporters.
Is that fossil still alive?
Hard to say what's going to die first - Knight or rugby in NZ
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Matheson is the Park Life school of journalism's finest proponent.
Smithy2008-05-25 21:22:53
Take a snippet of information and turn it into a page of inflammatory garbage. Pure genius.
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
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After I read the article I knew I wouldn't have to start a thread commenting on how awful it was, not in the least bit surprised to find one already exploding.
I think someone needs to tell the guy "Hey JM, FFS champ, you're not the only one with beef against NZ Football, yet as a journalist you're one of the very few with professional integrity to maintain (or systematically sodomize)"
When will he realize that noone will take him seriously as long as he sounds like he's writing an ill-informed letter to the editor, as oppose to a commissioned opinion piece.
wilso2008-05-25 17:36:59
I think someone needs to tell the guy "Hey JM, FFS champ, you're not the only one with beef against NZ Football, yet as a journalist you're one of the very few with professional integrity to maintain (or systematically sodomize)"
When will he realize that noone will take him seriously as long as he sounds like he's writing an ill-informed letter to the editor, as oppose to a commissioned opinion piece.
wilso2008-05-25 17:36:59
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Matheson is the Park Life school of journalism's finest proponent.
Take a snipped of information and turn it into a page of inflamatory garbage. Pure genius.
HA! Park Life should ask them for a job Smith, at least Park Life's slander is normally well-researched.
Hard News2008-05-25 21:24:08
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a bit of a history reminder
when elliott tranferred to fulham from the states the sunday news (it was probably matheson but i cant remember) ran a story about him in which they used a random quote from the columbus crew fan forum bagging elliot.
everybody was utterly appalled - and ryan nelsen went public in the Herald saying he would never talk to the sunday news again after that article. and quite possible he never has, i cant remember recall anything.
I had started buying the SN bc it has more football in it - but after the vitriolic rubbish about Steven Old and now this ridiculous personal agenda journalism, I am going to join Mr Nelsen in a life boycott.
Congratulations to Mr Elliott for being one of only a few NZ players to ever reach the Premiership, for playing at the likes of Old Trafford (and having a smashing game that day too) and St James Park, for starting 12 Premiership matches (of roughly 18 he was available for), for a handful of Premiership "assists" (including the injury time winner against Spurs), for keeping Papa Bouba Diop on the bench, and for helping Fulham to a good finish to the 05-06 season. Because of the horrid injury picked up in pre-season, the 18 month rehab and various changes in mgt, he was never able to kick on from a promising start - but at least he had a start, and that is a huge achievement in the context of world football.
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I'm picking he'll stay in England if he can.
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
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Elliot that is, not Matheson.
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
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How long until Johnny Spur pops in to tell us that Mathieson knows more than we've all forgotten and how dare we bag him and the Sunday News ?
Jacobs' decision to select them ahead of the likes of Ivan Vicelich
the All Whites veteran who always put his country before his club has
been an unpopular move.
...and while I'm asking questions, does anyone know where the call-ups have been an unpopular move ?Nelsen, the Blackburn skipper, has the form and class to warrant selection but Elliott has none.
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Yeah it would be nice if Matheson quoted his sauce
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it was a hatchet job that was so blatant it was laughable (in a tragic sense), how the hell can his editors let him write such vitriolic rubbish?- what the hell has he got against Simon Elliot? (did matheson lose a playground fight 20 years ago)
thought about putting the 'story' up on the front page with the caption - "Can the term "troll" be applied to a journo?" but then i remembered New's advice "don't feed the troll"
tigers2008-05-25 23:03:30
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Maybe one of our feverly leaders can write a letter to the paper expressing our genuine dissapointment at that crappy excuse for a piece of journalism?
I'm 'lucky' enough to read the SN at work for free...todays was a joke purely for that single article.
Simon is one of our country's finest footballing exports of late and as deserves alot better than that.
Had it not been for a horror injury run who knows what might've been for him.......
I'm 'lucky' enough to read the SN at work for free...todays was a joke purely for that single article.
Simon is one of our country's finest footballing exports of late and as deserves alot better than that.
Had it not been for a horror injury run who knows what might've been for him.......
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a bit of a history reminder
when elliott tranferred to fulham from the states the sunday news (it was probably matheson but i cant remember) ran a story about him in which they used a random quote from the columbus crew fan forum bagging elliot.
everybody was utterly appalled - and ryan nelsen went public in the Herald saying he would never talk to the sunday news again after that article. and quite possible he never has, i cant remember recall anything.
I had started buying the SN bc it has more football in it - but after the vitriolic rubbish about Steven Old and now this ridiculous personal agenda journalism, I am going to join Mr Nelsen in a life boycott.
Congratulations to Mr Elliott for being one of only a few NZ players to ever reach the Premiership, for playing at the likes of Old Trafford (and having a smashing game that day too) and St James Park, for starting 12 Premiership matches (of roughly 18 he was available for), for a handful of Premiership "assists" (including the injury time winner against Spurs), for keeping Papa Bouba Diop on the bench, and for helping Fulham to a good finish to the 05-06 season. Because of the horrid injury picked up in pre-season, the 18 month rehab and various changes in mgt, he was never able to kick on from a promising start - but at least he had a start, and that is a huge achievement in the context of world football.
Well said Marius!
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The thing that really gets me is that whenever Danny Hay is quoted in the SN (clearly he and Matheson are close so he is a regular source) he is always eulogised as our one of our best ever exports and prefaced with "Danny Hay, who played in the premiership and the champions league with Leeds United blah blah". But the reality is different, he only made 4 appearances (and the irony is that he too was limited by injury) and never played in the prem as a starter, yet his career is made out to be a shining light when in reality he barely played overseas. Yet Elliot has had an excellent career in the states, did well in the time he had on the pitch for fulham and will undsoubtedly be picked up by a championship club in the near future. You can't play favourites in a country as small as this, you'll only be exposed for pettiness because it's just too small.
Normo's coming home
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Elliot to play for the phoenix?
Oh Wellington is wonderful. We got the wind, the rain and the phoenix. Oh Wellington is wonderful.
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The thing that really gets me is that whenever Danny Hay is quoted in the SN (clearly he and Matheson are close so he is a regular source) he is always eulogised as our one of our best ever exports and prefaced with "Danny Hay, who played in the premiership and the champions league with Leeds United blah blah". But the reality is different, he only made 4 appearances (and the irony is that he too was limited by injury) and never played in the prem as a starter, yet his career is made out to be a shining light when in reality he barely played overseas. Yet Elliot has had an excellent career in the states, did well in the time he had on the pitch for fulham and will undsoubtedly be picked up by a championship club in the near future. You can't play favourites in a country as small as this, you'll only be exposed for pettiness because it's just too small.
Post of the month that JD
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