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You're wrong Charlie Dempsey

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
You're wrong Charlie Dempsey
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I was never really a Charlie dempsey fan to be honest. Even way back during that 1982 era etc. I don't really remember why I took a dislike to the man. Then in 2000 when he abstained and Germany got the hosting rights, I along with other vilified the man. I was under the impression that Oceania had instructed Charlie Dempsey to vote for South Africa and when he "chickened out" or "was bought", I was annoyed. The rights or wrongs of his actions were one thing that were never really explainned, What I thought of the man had not changed........until now. I've just read that interview on this site. I'd like to draw your attention to this quote...
 
JM: How do you want to be remembered, Charlie? Do you think this episode has tainted you?
 
CD: I've met opposition in football someone like Devlin. It wouldn't matter what I did, he wouldn't change his mind about me. You'll never change people. They either like you or they don't.
 
 
Charlie, you're wrong, I have changed my opinion of you. I am sorry that I held you accountable for actions of others. I sincerely hope you are resting in peace. You have changed my opinion with this one interview. I believe it's the first time I have heard from your own mouth what went on. Thank you for what you have done for NZ football but a bigger thank you for keeping to your principles.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Here here.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
well put lg! the artice i read in the herald today was the first time id ever read a different side to that story. i was in england when that happened and i seem to remember he was copping it over there too

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I have to laugh a little bit at the 'this is the first time we've heard about this side of the story'

If anyone had read about it all when it happened, it was covered quite extensively as to the whys and why nots and I was left under no illusion as to why Charlie did what he did. The interview doesn't shed any new light on his side of the story because its the same story that was mentioned all those years ago and its exactly the same as Matheson wrote it in this article.

R I P Charlie
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
You can laugh but what i remember at the time was Charlie telling the press he would not pass any comments until he was back home and had spoken with the Oceania council. Th erest of the stuff in the media was speculation at the time.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Actually I think that story just made him look weak.  He was more concerned about protecting his own reputation than doing what he had been instructed to do by his own federation.

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Knowing little about it beyond this interview, it does seem that the OFC had given the instruction to vote for England but with no plan B, plan C, plan D etc etc to cover the possibility that England would not be in the final running. You'd think that they would have considered every possibility and Dempsey therefore would not have been put under so much pressure.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I read the interview and thought he came across as weak.  People were putting pressure on him, the world cup was at stake and he was there to vote.  He bottled out so as not to upset anyone and went and played golf to get away from the pressure.  And Devlin asked him some difficult questions when he got back which he couldn't answer.  A silly old man who shouldn't have even been there in the first place. 
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Exactly my thoughts Jose's dog.  Not an easy situation but surely the fact that every other person there knew the situation and he was blind to the fact that his vote was going to be the deciding one meant that he had failed Oceania. 
 
His failure to vote had huge ramifications for the confederation. 
 
james dean2008-07-01 21:10:07

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

THE OFC isnt the most credibile of organisations to start with they are an absolute shambles, wrong guy wrong place wrong time

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Well, didn't a few AFC votes jump sides and that swung it away from South Africa? They were really the main reason, not the OFC non-vote, for Germany to get it.

If they stayed voting for South Africa in the last round, then this would have been a side issue of very little significance.

At least he had the nerve to stay honest about his intentions unlike those AFC late swing votes. You would have to say those AFC voters were under the same pressure than Old Charlie boy to have to swing their votes after two rounds voting for South Africa and unlike Charlie they were the real backstabbers to the South Africa cause.

Charlie only backstabbed the OFC for not voting as per three round instructions. He didn't backstabbed the South Africa because he never voted for them in the first two rounds. He was always going to vote for England and no one else.

It was only a first non-vote that happened in a close fought contest. In previous votings, it has never got this close.
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