Youth League financial help

Youth League financial help

Yellowfever whip round?

Sounds good to me!  Why couldn't the fans at least partly fund a team in the youth league.  I've got more than my money's worth out of my membership - I'd be happy to contribute.

Somebody has to put the money in, because thanks to Winston I doubt NZF can fund it.

How much will the Sal' cap be increased to?

This is exactly the sort of thing that Sparc should be funding.

...and thinking about it, this sounds like a much better return on our taxpayer dollars than $30M for the America's cup. We only want about 1% of that each year.

Bugger me Malky... that is more than a little inspired.

According to its 2006 Annual Report SPARC gave $690,000 to NZ 'Soccer'.  Given the levels of participation, that's terribly low.  Swimming got $2.2 million and Shooting $910,000!?

Yes, but will we win a Commonwealth games Bronze in it ?

Oh, is that what the money is for.  I thought we only ever aspired to coming fourth.

SPARC can fund my race horse then... bloody donkey.

why not they sponsor the all blacks 

SPARC funding allowances should correlate to participation numbers, with some leeway to allow for expenses (some sports being more expensive that others to play ie equipment, premises...). The fact that football receives so little is a joke.

be great if NZFA and Nix can come to an arrangement (with SPARC and/or winston lifting their games and behaving justly)

having the club staff at the helm of the best of NZ's youth players would be brilliant for both club and country!!

But the All Blacks weren't even 4th

Tats why they need all the help they can get from SPARC, so they can do better next time

i cant believe clay shooting gets more than us....... what the hell!!!!!!!! I thought that football was the most played sport by kids in New Zealand. Yet we still get less tehn stupid clay shooting thats outrageous.

What we need is to get a football supporter in a senior position at Sparc.

After all Peter Miskimmin is a GM there and both the mens and womens hockey teams got $375K each from the Contestable Investment fund this year and are getting more than that in 2008.

Hockey!! Talk about a niche sport. Only a handful of countries play it and they get more than football.

SPARC CEO resigned last night.

now would probably be a good time to bombard SPARC with criticism (hopefully informed criticism) of their funding of football, so as to put some awareness of football into their selection process

High performance funding is for high performance and Hard News hits the issue right on the head. The first criteria for high performance funding is:

1. Ability to contribute to SPARC�s High Performance objectives
   • Creditable 2008 Olympic Games performances (ability to move beyond first round for team sports, top 16 placing for individual sports);
   • Medal winning world championship / world cup performances;
   • Medal winning Paralympic Games performances;
   • Medal winning Commonwealth Games performances;
   • Creditable 2010 Winter Olympic Games performances.

To receive high performance funding, NZF need to show that the project could win a medal at the World Champs. Chances of that happening with the All Whites? There is a better chance with the Olympic teams moving past the first round. Again, likelihood of that? Would you give Football money based on those criteria?

it all seems to point to the fact that the teams that get funding will generally be 'big fish' in little ponds

ie, commonwealth type sports (shooting, bowls etc, etc)

aside from 'high' performance in 'minor' sports, are there other options within SPARC's funding? (I genuinely don't know)

in terms of benefits to New Zealand and New Zealanders , i still believe the high local participation in football, and the fact that just getting to any world cup (ie whole world cup = football), must raise NZ's 'tourist' etc profile more than winning a medal in quoits  at the commonwealth games

no, wonder we dont make the olympics. We get almost no money to get there. a way for our football to progress is by getting funding.   Why dont community Trust do it? They sponsor football.... im sure that they could do it. They'd do a hell of a better job than sparc anyway. (not that its hard to)

I'll do it! I've got my National Certificate in Sport, Level 3. Polytech qualifications are better than nothing

If elected, I will make football the national sport, I will outlaw clay pigeon shooting, and will rename the All Blacks as "The Cheeky Darkies." VOTE FOR ROBB!

/was going to apply for the All Blacks coaching job as a joke, but forgot
robbwatson2007-12-14 15:18:55

Make the govrnment pay


they can pay for knee surgery
why not fund a great team

Yeah, but how many of those are actually competitive. For example, the recent Champions Trophy in KL only had 8 teams (and no NZ) which says that there are only 8 teams good enough to compete at that level. Next you'll be suggesting that Rugby is a global game because of the number of countries that play it. Hockey, Rugby, niche sports.

And besides, the whole funding policy is arse about face. You have to be good before Sparc will fund you but how do you get good without the funds to develop players.

how much money do you get for simply qualifying for the FIFA WC?The winners of the tournament in Germany walk away with 24.5 million Swiss francs ($26.5 million), more than double the total for the 2002 World Cup, while every qualifying nation pocket a minimum of seven million Swiss francs ($7.6 million).

inncorrect, only 6 teams play at the champions trophy and they are the 6 highest ranked teams in the world.

Hockey is far more competitive than rugby for example and is global. teams ranked 1-15 could probably all beat each other and the rest of the top 20 could probably beat those up to about #5 on their day. there are good teams from every continent.

the current top 10 mens teams are

1 GERMANY Europe 2 AUSTRALIA Oceania 3 NETHERLANDS Europe 4 SPAIN Europe 5 KOREA Asia 6 PAKISTAN Asia 7 ARGENTINA South America 8 ENGLAND Europe 9 INDIA Asia 10 NEW ZEALAND Oceania
it is pretty global and NZ does have a chance of winning a beijing as our ranking doesn't do us just at the moment as we haven't played mush lately. I more pessimistic about the women.

It is fair to say where I grew up about 10 years ago now there were far morekids and adults playing hockey than football.

I am all for football getting more funding btw.

just getting some facts straight.
jeremiah2007-12-19 21:35:12

Maybe we could petition SPARC next year and write them a document from YF supporting a NZFC/WP funding proposal hitting SPARC's vision statement which is on their front page:

• to be the most active nation
• to be winning consistently in events that matter to New Zealand
• to achieve this by having the most effective sport and recreation systems.

I think a youth league team addresses all of these three criteria even if it doesn't fit under their high performance funding and medal criteria.