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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I'm currently taking a certificate of radio at Aoraki polytech and as one of our projects we have to make a 5-10 minute audio documentary.

So as a topic I've decided I'm going to find out why students in lower decile schools fail much more than students in higher decile schools.

Now I plan to interview students, teachers, parents, principals, school councillors, teacher aids and hopefully some politicians aswell.

But I was wondering, if you were listening to a doco about this subject what questions would you want asked and more crucially answered?Pure Genius2008-05-08 18:33:44
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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
So your nickname is ironic???   I get it 
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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
SurgeQld wrote:
So your nickname is ironic??? � I get it�


My nicknames off spongebob?
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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Would be willing to have deep and meaningful discussions about this with you Genius. Not sure if you know but I work with people in the lower socioeconomic sector and everytime I go for house visits the kids are never at school, it seems to go in a cycle - the parents are not interested in school so rarely encourage their kids to be. I would love to see the finished product when you're done too :)

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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Maybe relevant to check out the "youth gang" situation too.
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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
then i don't get it... lol



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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
smarah wrote:

Would be willing to have deep and meaningful discussions about this with you Genius. Not sure if you know but I work with people in the lower socioeconomic sector and everytime I go for house visits the kids are never at school, it seems to go in a cycle - the parents are not interested in school so rarely encourage their kids to be. I would love to see the finished product when you're done too :)



It would be great if I could ring you at some time and have a chat (I live in Christchurch and am guessing your from Wellington?)

I'll have to find out when I can at tech because I don't have the equipment to record phone conversations at home (Presuming I can record the convo of course?
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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
the recording is easy... let me know if you need help, I can tell you what software to ewes... i did some last month for a course I was building in Oz
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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Question, Why don't parents take a more active interest in what their children get up to during their teen years??
Question, Why don't parents take responsibility for their children and instill the same value in their children.
Question, Why is it always "someone else's" fault?
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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
With the introduction of NCEA are more students in lower decile schools actually starting to pass? If so, is this because they are able to take easier subjects? (such as giftwrapping...enough said)

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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Tegal wrote:
With the introduction of NCEA are more students in lower decile schools actually starting to pass? If so, is this because they are able to take easier subjects? (such as giftwrapping...enough said)


Your kidding? Giftwrapping?
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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

hey, i've got a Masters in giftwrapping, it was the best $25000 i ever spent (especially at Xmas)
I like tautologies because I like them.
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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Just a bit?
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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

have Pm'ed you , all the best with your studies

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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Lonegunmen wrote:
Question, Why don't parents take a more active interest in what their children get up to during their teen years??
Question, Why don't parents take responsibility for their children and instill the same value in their children.
Question, Why is it always "someone else's" fault?
Its not all about the parents, some of those teaching them need to take a serious look at themselves and be accountable for their actions.Just a little story.
I used to attend parent teacher meetings for my son and was informed one nite by the deputy principal that my son wouldnt make anything of himself.Imagine my pleasure when running into that same dick some years later to inform him that my son  had graduated top student in his chef course and was now sous chef at very good restaurant,and it was no thanks to anything those at his college has done.
Its far to easy these days for people to blame the parents or the kids themselves.How often is it pointed in the directions of those who can actually have a big influence.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

yeah no probs you can ring me and record it, will I need to sign a consent form for that? privacy act and all that yadda yadda? PM me when you're ready. Yes from wgtn.

Ballane - I agree, people shouldn't blame this person or that person, it's a collective, and what a lot of teachers don't understand is not everybody is "academic" or even cognitively immature or don't really give a sh*t (my main problem at school), had a variety of teachers tell me at school i wasn't going to get anywhere because i never paid attention in class. Aced high school and am going to hopefully go to med school sometime soon. Open mind and guidance is what people need to offer, anyone watched that show about developing/discovering your child potential? Any good?
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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Questions I have so far :

Students

1)     Did you pass NCEA last year?
1a) Why did you "not achieve?
2)     What do you enjoy about school?
3)     What do not enjoy about school?
4)     Do you believe you learn enough at school? Why/Why Not?
5)     What effect do you believe other members of your school have on your ability to learn?
6)     What effect do you believe your teachers and staff have on your ability to learn. Do they help or Hinder your Learning?
7)     What things do you believe are good at your school?
8)     What things do you believe are bad about your school?
9)     When you get up in the morning do you want to go to school? Why/Why Not?
10)     Do you believe you could achieve better results at a different school?
11)     Do you believe your presence at this school enhances or detracts from the schools reputation in the community?
12)     What do your parents/guardians do to take an active interest in your education?
13)     Do you believe NCEA is a good system?

TEACHERS

1)     Do you believe that a majority of your students have the ability to pass the current level of NCEA they are taking by the end of the year?
2)     Do you believe all parents take an active interest in their child�s education?
2a) What do you think parents could do to help there children?
3)     What do you believe the job or jobs of the teacher is?
4)     Do you believe the teaching ability of the teachers at this school is reflected in the students results?



PARENTS

1)     What result did your child or children get for NCEA last year?
1a) Why did they �Not Achieve�?
2)     Do you understand the NCEA schooling system?

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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
smarah wrote:

yeah no probs you can ring me and record it, will I need to sign a consent form for that? privacy act and all that yadda yadda? PM me when you're ready. Yes from wgtn.




Na, no signing needed, you just have to say to be that you don't mind me using the audio on air.
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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Harry, ya need to clear your inbox.
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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
ballane wrote:
Lonegunmen wrote:
Question, Why don't parents take a more active interest in what their children get up to during their teen years??
Question, Why don't parents take responsibility for their children and instill the same value in their children.
Question, Why is it always "someone else's" fault?
[/QUOTE]Its not all about the parents, some of those teaching them need to take a serious look at themselves and be accountable for their actions.Just a little story.
I used to attend parent teacher meetings for my son and was informed one nite by the deputy principal that my son wouldnt make anything of himself.Imagine my pleasure when running into that same dick some years later to inform him that my son  had graduated top student in his chef course and was now sous chef at very good restaurant,and it was no thanks to anything those at his college has done.
Its far to easy these days for people to blame the parents or the kids themselves.How often is it pointed in the directions of those who can actually have a big influence.
 
Sorry Steve, i thought he was referring to Decile schools........
 
[QUOTE]So as a topic I've decided I'm going to find out why students in lower decile schools fail much more than students in higher decile schools.

Now I plan to interview students, teachers, parents, principals, school councillors, teacher aids and hopefully some politicians aswell.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
If the parents are low educated, and don't value education, how you can expect the kids too? Especially when , assuming they're in a low socio-economic area, the kids at school are likely to be the same. There needs to be some intervention, and some cute ads on TV with Tana Umaga urges them to "team up" may not be enough!
Oh Wellington is wonderful. We got the wind, the rain and the phoenix. Oh Wellington is wonderful.
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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
How about if their teachers urged them not to? They'd naturally rebel lol 
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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
SurgeQld wrote:
How about if their teachers urged them not to? They'd naturally rebel lol 


that actually makes a lot of sense
I like tautologies because I like them.
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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Very interesting topic there Genius.  I think there are a lot of dimensions to this.  Some of the top of my head are:
1: Natural ability
2: Fewer resources availble to children
3: Poorer quality of schools/teachers
4: Lower expectations
5: Association with deviant peers
6: Poorer health conditions
7: Caring responsabilities at home.
 
Like most people here i would be very interested in seeing (or hearing as the case maybe) what your findings are. Good luck!
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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Natural ability is a cop out (as its often based on race too)
 
The rest are pretty valid,nicely little list

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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Just to take point no.5 (Association with deviant peers) a little further/sideways, some kids deliberately "dumb-down" their abilities/talent/intelect to fit in with their peers, so as to not be seen as a nerd or to succeed.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Listen here

Just click on the "Tech stuff" link.
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