Fox News embarrass selves once more
Three for me, and two for them.
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Buffon II2011-01-31 15:46:48Three for me, and two for them.
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Dear Lord.
How can anyone take them seriously.
How can anyone take them seriously.
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Have you seen the number of typos etc on our local news?
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That's bloody terrible. Did the presenters pass comment when it went on air?
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They could at least have got Iraq right, ffs...
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No surprises really.
Junior822011-01-31 17:06:04
Here's some maps that I grew up with:
http://bigthink.com/ideas/21155 (click on enlarge)
"Phoenix till they lose"
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Genuine opinion: FTFFA
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Oh dear 
- referring to the initial pic at the top of the thread.
- referring to the initial pic at the top of the thread.Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!
The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZljVAI5X5o
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i wouldnt be surprised if the presenters didnt even notice
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I watched a brilliant piece online the other day where Bill O'Reilly was asked for proof of God, and he said, if you don't believe in God, how can 'liberals' and 'science' explain how the oceans tides go in and out, without ever missing a beat.
Now I have no problem with people's religious beliefs, but that gem from Bill was quite outstanding.
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I watched a brilliant piece online the other day where Bill O'Reilly was asked for proof of God, and he said, if you don't believe in God, how can 'liberals' and 'science' explain how the oceans tides go in and out, without ever missing a beat.
Now I have no problem with people's religious beliefs, but that gem from Bill was quite outstanding.
O'Reily has become their reasonable centrist guy.
which shows just how far gone they are
also O'Reily may have been stating that all ideologies require faith to function. Science, just like any other form of understanding is built from this.
E's Flat Ah's Flat Too
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http://bigthink.com/ideas/21155 (click on enlarge)
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I watched a brilliant piece online the other day where Bill O'Reilly was asked for proof of God, and he said, if you don't believe in God, how can 'liberals' and 'science' explain how the oceans tides go in and out, without ever missing a beat.
Now I have no problem with people's religious beliefs, but that gem from Bill was quite outstanding.
O'Reily has become their reasonable centrist guy.
which shows just how far gone they are
also O'Reily may have been stating that all ideologies require faith to function. Science, just like any other form of understanding is built from this.
Science isn't built on faith, it uses aspects of faith but isn't built on it. That's like the old chestnut that Atheists have 'belief' just like religious people.
If religions are sports, rugby is Christianity, football is Buddhism etc, than what sport does the person who doesn't play sport play? None in this analogy.
PS. I know that's not necessarily your viewpoint, but O'Reily's. The argument just annoys me.
Also, sorry for possible thread derailment. Fox News sucks monkey balls. There we go.
Cosimo2011-02-01 15:54:55I like tautologies because I like them.
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I watched a brilliant piece online the other day where Bill O'Reilly was asked for proof of God, and he said, if you don't believe in God, how can 'liberals' and 'science' explain how the oceans tides go in and out, without ever missing a beat.
Now I have no problem with people's religious beliefs, but that gem from Bill was quite outstanding.
Doesn't gavity and the moons' orbit come in to the equation?
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!
The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
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Yeah hence it was a hilariously idiotic thing to say
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Mind you
There is a god who created anything
Is just as absurd as
There was a big bang and everything was created.
People should just believe whatever the hell they want,as long as it doesn't infringe upon others negatively.
Nobody should try to say the other is wrong as there is nothing to disprove anything. If I however said I could fly,then you would be right in telling me I don't have wings and therefore can't etc.
There is a god who created anything
Is just as absurd as
There was a big bang and everything was created.
People should just believe whatever the hell they want,as long as it doesn't infringe upon others negatively.
Nobody should try to say the other is wrong as there is nothing to disprove anything. If I however said I could fly,then you would be right in telling me I don't have wings and therefore can't etc.
Allegedly
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Mind you
There is a god who created anything
Is just as absurd as
There was a big bang and everything was created.
People should just believe whatever the hell they want,as long as it doesn't infringe upon others negatively.
Nobody should try to say the other is wrong as there is nothing to disprove anything. If I however said I could fly,then you would be right in telling me I don't have wings and therefore can't etc.
There is a god who created anything
Is just as absurd as
There was a big bang and everything was created.
People should just believe whatever the hell they want,as long as it doesn't infringe upon others negatively.
Nobody should try to say the other is wrong as there is nothing to disprove anything. If I however said I could fly,then you would be right in telling me I don't have wings and therefore can't etc.
But what if you have complete faith that you can fly
You would say 'I can fly' and I would say 'no you can't' and then 'prove it' and you would say 'I don't have to prove it' and I would say 'the burden of proof is on you' and then we'd repeat the argument until you actually flew.
Cosimo2011-02-01 19:55:12
I like tautologies because I like them.
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Not certain of my facts, but I'm pretty sure the theory isn't "There was a big bang and everything was created".
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Mind you
There is a god who created anything
Is just as absurd as
There was a big bang and everything was created.
People should just believe whatever the hell they want,as long as it doesn't infringe upon others negatively.
Nobody should try to say the other is wrong as there is nothing to disprove anything. If I however said I could fly,then you would be right in telling me I don't have wings and therefore can't etc.
There is a god who created anything
Is just as absurd as
There was a big bang and everything was created.
People should just believe whatever the hell they want,as long as it doesn't infringe upon others negatively.
Nobody should try to say the other is wrong as there is nothing to disprove anything. If I however said I could fly,then you would be right in telling me I don't have wings and therefore can't etc.
But what if you have complete faith that you can fly
You would say 'I can fly' and I would say 'no you can't' and then 'prove it' and you would say 'I don't have to prove it' and I would say 'the burden of proof is on you' and then we'd repeat the argument until you actually flew.
if we need proof, reason or logic
a lot of people don't.
in a free society people will come up with their own ideologies.
regardless of how ridiculous others may feel they are
look at Tom Cruise.
E's Flat Ah's Flat Too
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Mind you
There is a god who created anything
Is just as absurd as
There was a big bang and everything was created.
People should just believe whatever the hell they want,as long as it doesn't infringe upon others negatively.
Nobody should try to say the other is wrong as there is nothing to disprove anything. If I however said I could fly,then you would be right in telling me I don't have wings and therefore can't etc.
There is a god who created anything
Is just as absurd as
There was a big bang and everything was created.
People should just believe whatever the hell they want,as long as it doesn't infringe upon others negatively.
Nobody should try to say the other is wrong as there is nothing to disprove anything. If I however said I could fly,then you would be right in telling me I don't have wings and therefore can't etc.
But what if you have complete faith that you can fly
You would say 'I can fly' and I would say 'no you can't' and then 'prove it' and you would say 'I don't have to prove it' and I would say 'the burden of proof is on you' and then we'd repeat the argument until you actually flew.
God...Not so much. You can't really prove god doesn't exist,as much as you can't prove that he does either. So for people on either side of the belief/non-belief to call the other wrong is well...idiotic.
Therefore people should just believe whatever they want as long as it doesn't infringe on others negatively.
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Not certain of my facts, but I'm pretty sure the theory isn't "There was a big bang and everything was created".
I was summarising? 
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I probably didn't do the best job of explaining my thoughts...But am sure you got the gist of what i was trying to say
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Thing with Science, it says the Big Bang is right because its the best story to fit the current facts.
Thing is - when a new fact comes along, they update and rethink everything. Religion does not.
Thing is - when a new fact comes along, they update and rethink everything. Religion does not.
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make. believe
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
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Mind you
There is a god who created anything
Is just as absurd as
There was a big bang and everything was created.
People should just believe whatever the hell they want,as long as it doesn't infringe upon others negatively.
Nobody should try to say the other is wrong as there is nothing to disprove anything. If I however said I could fly,then you would be right in telling me I don't have wings and therefore can't etc.
There is a god who created anything
Is just as absurd as
There was a big bang and everything was created.
People should just believe whatever the hell they want,as long as it doesn't infringe upon others negatively.
Nobody should try to say the other is wrong as there is nothing to disprove anything. If I however said I could fly,then you would be right in telling me I don't have wings and therefore can't etc.
But what if you have complete faith that you can fly
You would say 'I can fly' and I would say 'no you can't' and then 'prove it' and you would say 'I don't have to prove it' and I would say 'the burden of proof is on you' and then we'd repeat the argument until you actually flew.
if we need proof, reason or logic
a lot of people don't.
in a free society people will come up with their own ideologies.
regardless of how ridiculous others may feel they are
look at Tom Cruise.
So we live in a free society now? When did that happen?
I like tautologies because I like them.
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make. believe
Three for me, and two for them.
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if we need proof, reason or logica lot of people don't.in a free society people will come up with their own ideologies.regardless of how ridiculous others may feel they are look at Tom Cruise.
That really is a counter argument for a free society.
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
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make. believe
Beware false idols:
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
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We will never fully decide who has won the football.
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Dear Fox News,
So far, no news about foxes.
Sincerely, Unimpressed
So far, no news about foxes.
Sincerely, Unimpressed
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I make the assumption things are fairly free for Mr Cruise.
do you think he has less options than say you or I?
the point I was making Junior was people may make seemingly bizarre choices. I think my example is valid.
still no news on foxes. False advertising? Boom Boom?
do you think he has less options than say you or I?
the point I was making Junior was people may make seemingly bizarre choices. I think my example is valid.
still no news on foxes. False advertising? Boom Boom?
E's Flat Ah's Flat Too
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unhappy looking O'Reily
there was an internet smash hit with him sounding off back in his bearded days
not exactly Christian use of words
there was an internet smash hit with him sounding off back in his bearded days
not exactly Christian use of words
E's Flat Ah's Flat Too
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Thing with Science, it says the Big Bang is right because its the best story to fit the current facts.
Thing is - when a new fact comes along, they update and rethink everything. Religion does not.
Thing is - when a new fact comes along, they update and rethink everything. Religion does not.
in principle or theory yes. But in real life manifestation, clearly not.
I struggle to contemplate that there are people who actually think Science is immune to the exact same bias, prejudice, corruption and hierarchy readily apparent in seemingly all of Humanity's ideological/belief structures.
E's Flat Ah's Flat Too
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Thing with Science, it says the Big Bang is right because its the best story to fit the current facts.
Thing is - when a new fact comes along, they update and rethink everything. Religion does not.
Thing is - when a new fact comes along, they update and rethink everything. Religion does not.
in principle or theory yes. But in real life manifestation, clearly not.
I struggle to contemplate that there are people who actually think Science is immune to the exact same bias, prejudice, corruption and hierarchy readily apparent in seemingly all of Humanity's ideological/belief structures.
Of course it's not, and that's not what he said. Even without corruption and bias etc religion is a different kettle of fish to religion, otherwise, it ain't religion or it ain't science. *argument dissolving into semantics alert*
I like tautologies because I like them.
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