fukushima

fukushima

your guess is as good as mine. I for one hope it dosn't happen but if it does god be with them

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fukushima is news duh that's why i put in news . chefmivec2011-03-16 17:36:22

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Not a clue for you?

 

Mind my ignorance, what does nuclear do to someone? like what are the side affects, dangers etc and why do they have nuclear plants in the first place? Is the negative too great?

Nuclear power is, by a cost-benefit analysis process, the most clean and safe way to harness power for larger countries such as Japan.

Radiation comes in 3 types, alpha, beta and gamma, alpha and beta being particle radiation and gamma being wave radiation. Waves are far more dangerous than particles when it comes to radiation I believe.

I think the kind of radiation that comes from a nuclear reactor is mainly beta (?), I think it consists of neutrons which are able to essentially fuse with your atomic structure and manipulate it which causes mutations such as cancer etc.

Thats all I know, wheres our resident scientest?

No carbon emissions. The heat from the nuclear fuel rods heats up the circulating water creating steam which turns the turbines thus generating electricity. It's like water turning the turbines at hydo-electric dams, coal/gas/oil is used to heat up the water in their respective power stations e.g. Huntley is a coal fired station. You don't need much nuclear fuel in terms of volume as compared to, say, coal. And it lasts a long time, hence nuclear powered ships/subs don't need refueling for years.

While the power generating process is clean I wouldn't think the mining process to get the uranium to run the stations in the first place or the disposal afterwards are. Its like saying an electric car is good for the environment because it has zero emissions. Seems like people never look at the whole process.

Thats why I used the term "cost-benefit analysis, compared on other sort of large scale power generating techniques nuclear power is considered to be cleaner and safer than most other things, it isn't perfect, but is better, even in some aspects it is marginal or is not, it makes up for it in other aspects.

Sorry if you thought I was calling you out, I don't word things very well .

And you're right, its all a bit of a crap chute. I am putting all my chips on Fusion power

No worries, I wasn't to sure myself haha. But you're right, it is a bit of a crap chute there at the moment eh?

I have a friend in Sendai who is looking to GTFO as soon as a petrol station near by opens

Radiation Dose Chart20 legend2011-03-20 23:03:26

Alpha/Beta radio are particles, while Gamma is a wave. (effectively a x-ray)

Alpha and Beta radiation, once inside the body, are lethal. However Beta and Alpha radiation can barely penetrate your skin and the most either of this type of radiation can travel is more or less 1 metre.

Gamma radiation is what is released by Nuclear Power plants. It breaks the DNA within cells. If you're only exposed for a relatively short time however, your body should be able to heal itself perfectly fine.

If I were in the vicinity of one of the reactors (i.e. 100kmish) I wouldn't be putting too much thought into it.

Just quickly, a meltdown doesn't mean the palce is going to blow up. The actual nuclear reactions at both plants have stopped. And the way they are built, they're not going to blow up.

That really stretched last years physics :l

Yeah I'm pretty sure the meltdown is more about the release of radiation than an explosion.

Interesting article.  It does seem that there is a danger of perverse outcomes magnifying the suffering (e.g. no aid getting through).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sakN2hSVxA&feature=player_embedded

All is explained

A couple of days ago I might of said yes, but the situation seems to be improving. I have to admit I thought that plan to dump water on the reactors was the stupidest crap I think I'd ever heard, but perhaps it did the trick.

Meltdown doesnt mean 'the entire plant melts to the ground like an ice cube and everyone dies'. All it means is heat generated exceeds heat removed by cooling system (ie. fuel rods exposed, constant need to dump water on rods to cool). What we have been seeing since pretty much day one is in fact a meltdown.