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Greek riots / political consciousness

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Greek riots / political consciousness
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Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Greek activists call for Europe-wide protests on Thursday
Question for younger YFers. What would it take to get you out on the street?



Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
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If you mean destroying property and trying to hurt people, 1985 and 1981 are a guide.
1985 was the Queen Street riot, a full out of control riot, fueled by booze.  Far out, those dogs have teeth.
1981 was slightly contrived.  If a  largish amount of protesters ever made it to Eden Park, that would have been a real riot (only a dozen got through at half time).  As it was, some bloke on my right lit a flare, smashed a bottle and gashed me, still have the scar.  Fortunately for him, the bloke in front floored him which stopped the crowd from beating in up.  The police sent a unit up to our area to stop any attempted surge trying to grab protestors the police were leading away.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Nope, I don't mean "destroying property and trying to hurt people"
The question is what would it take for YOUNG NZers to demonstrate about SOMETHING.


Neither 81 nor 85, in my view, are guides.
1981 was a cross section of NZers who were active. I still remember the cowardice of the police in Molesworth Street.
1985 was simply a booze fuelled romp.


Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
dairyflat wrote:

1981 was a cross section of NZers who were active. I still remember the cowardice of the police in Molesworth Street.
I remember walking with my Mum (who couldn't get a babysitter) on a protest in the city, and hearing blokes outside of pubs call her terrible names.
 
It was at that point that me and rugby went our seperate ways.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I think in many cases a lot of young people just want to riot but don't actually have any proper, justifiable reason to riot.

It'd take a fair bit to get me to riot because I wouldn't want to be viewed as one of the above.
loyalgunner2008-12-18 14:47:40
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
They attempted protest marches at Uni to bitch about student loans. Nobody went. I think they got 200 people.

Young people don't give a damn.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
A good question this. I have often wondered why we hardly ever protest in a meaningful way about anything. Do we just have it too easy?

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hmmmm, very interesting question. Im probably one of the younger generation that you speak of.....I was on a student debt protest in my first year (05) which was one of the bigger ones they have had recently. Not really because I care about student debt as I think we should have to fork out for a quality education but more because I had never been on a protest before.
I will give it further thought but my initial one would be if between central and local government they managed to f**k up RWC 2011 I would hit the streets. We would be a laughing stock.
But I will give it further thought

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I think it would have to be something that really affected me or my family personally for me to want to protest/riot. There hasn't been such an event in my short lifespan so far in NZ and i'd hope it would stay that way.

Three for me, and two for them.

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Maybe something like a poll tax might motivate people.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The most successful protests were Friday 1pm cos you could have a pint, exit Uni for the week, try to chat up the opposite sex on the march and be home for dinner.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
edward l wrote:
The most successful protests were Friday 1pm cos you could have a pint, exit Uni for the week, try to chat up the opposite sex on the march and be home for dinner.


You make it sound so glamorous Ed.

Three for me, and two for them.

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
If they attempted to reintroduce capital punishment I don't think I'd riot but I'd definitely march.
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If they let Robert Mugabe in the country, If I had been in the country when they passed the EFA I may have marched. Yeah thats about me for the moment

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
If it was something that directly affected me for the worse, I would march
Torne2008-12-18 16:31:52
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
loyalgunner wrote:
I think in many cases a lot of young people just want to riot but don't actually have any proper, justifiable reason to riot.

It'd take a fair bit to get me to riot because I wouldn't want to be viewed as one of the above.


The OP didn't mention riot. I was more interested in younger YFers.... but what would it take to get YOU to DEMONSTRATE?
Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Demonstrations are cool. Especially if you know some people involved. Even better if they have a nice (Sony) TV and Home Theatre system because you know that they will be out of the house long enough for you to load your car up and head to your nearest Crime Converters!!!

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
If they took away my right to drink ;-)

I have gotten out and marched about a few things.
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If they added interest on student loans... I'd march.
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a poorly justified invasion of a sovereign country by allied forces has made me march in the past, and I will no doubt march again in that case.
 
If Rodney Hide manages to get his way about climate change/emissions trading scheme policies.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
If we get kicked out of the A-League, I'll march.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
robbwatson wrote:
If we get kicked out of the A-League, I'll march.


Amen
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yeah, anything football or cricket related would get me out, as would many political things.

I was going to go on that march that got about 200 people but I had to do my radio show on the VBC.

I think a problem with the uni youth today is that if we aren't in class or studying we have to be working.
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