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Posted December 02, 2015 03:04 · last edited December 02, 2015 03:05

[/quote] NZers that move over there do so on a special visa that prohibits them to vote or to receive many social services other tax paying members are afforded. These kiwis have no direct path to permanent residency and hence citizenship, they have to apply like any other immigrant - no matter how long they have lived in Australia - and may not meet the criteria for permanent residency. This is a problem for many who moved as kids to Australia (and I think even those born to NZ parents in Australia) , they are for all purposes Australian but may never actually be able to become citizens.

The way NZ treats Australians is more civilised and respectful - after 1 yr here they can vote and have access to social services, even the way we treat Australians that have spent time in prison is better, the longer they have lived in NZ the longer they have had to spend in prison before the option of deportation is brought up - in some instances they have had to have jail sentences over 10yrs.

Though Australia do take in far more refugees per capita than NZ and in Victoria have banned the selling of dogs online and pet stores to stop puppy mills.

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My daughter who is in her early 30's  has been out of NZ travelling the world for the last 3 years. She is now based in Aussie with here partner who isnt Australian. She got pregnant a year ago and then found out that because she had been out of NZ for longer than 2 years she wasnt eligible for any govt assistance back here in NZ . So they had their daughter in Aussie and got all govt assistance that any other Aussie gets. 

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AlfStamp edited December 02, 2015 03:05

[/quote] NZers that move over there do so on a special visa that prohibits them to vote or to receive many social services other tax paying members are afforded. These kiwis have no direct path to permanent residency and hence citizenship, they have to apply like any other immigrant - no matter how long they have lived in Australia - and may not meet the criteria for permanent residency. This is a problem for many who moved as kids to Australia (and I think even those born to NZ parents in Australia) , they are for all purposes Australian but may never actually be able to become citizens.

The way NZ treats Australians is more civilised and respectful - after 1 yr here they can vote and have access to social services, even the way we treat Australians that have spent time in prison is better, the longer they have lived in NZ the longer they have had to spend in prison before the option of deportation is brought up - in some instances they have had to have jail sentences over 10yrs.

Though Australia do take in far more refugees per capita than NZ and in Victoria have banned the selling of dogs online and pet stores to stop puppy mills.

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My daughter, has been out of NZ travelling the world for the last 3 years. She is now based in Aussie with here partner who isnt Australian. She got pregnant a year ago and then found out that because she had been out of NZ for longer than 2 years she wasnt eligible for any govt assistance back here in NZ . So they had their daughter in Aussie and got all govt assistance that any other Aussie gets.