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More political Uncorrectness
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I was sent this one in an e-mail. Some valid points not that the PC brigade would agree.

 

Good for him!!! 
I'm Surprised that CBS let him get away with this even though he's right 



Andy Rooney said on '60 Minutes' a few weeks back: 

I don't think being a minority makes you a victim of anything except numbers. The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory are things like the United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment Television, and Miss Black America. Try to have things like the United Caucasian College Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment Television, or Miss White America; and see what happens...Jesse Jackson will be knocking down your door. 

Guns do not make you a killer. I think killing makes you a killer. You can kill someone with a baseball bat or a car, but no one is trying to ban you from driving to the ball game. 

I believe they are called the Boy Scouts for a reason, which is why there are no girls allowed. Girls belong in the Girl Scouts!

 

I think that if you feel homosexuality is wrong, it is not a phobia, it is an opinion. 

I have the right 'NOT' to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird, or tick me off. 

When 70% of the people who get arrested are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is not racial profiling; it is the Law of Probability. 

I believe that if you are selling me a milkshake, a pack of cigarettes, a newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English! As a matter of fact, if you want to be an American/Canadian/British citizen, you should have to speak English! 

My father and grandfather didn't die in vain so you can leave the countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours. 

I think the police should have every right to shoot or arrest you if you threaten them after they tell you to stop. If you can't understand the word 'freeze' or 'stop' in English, see the above lines. 

I don't think just because you were not born in this country, you are qualified for any special National Assistance, loan programs, government sponsored bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can open a hotel, coffee shop, corner store, or any other business. 

We did not go to the aid of certain foreign countries and risk our lives in wars to defend their freedoms, so that decades later they could come over here and tell us our constitution is a living document; and open to their interpretations. 

I don't hate the rich I don't pity the poor 

I know pro wrestling is fake, but so are movies and television. That doesn't stop you from watching them. 

I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and continue to make more. If it ticks you off, go and invent the next operating system that's better, and put your name on the building. 

It doesn't take a whole village to raise a child right, but it does take a parent to stand up to the kid; and smack their little behinds when necessary, and say 'NO!' 

I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please don't pretend they are a political statement. And, please, stay home until that new lip ring heals. I don't want to look at your ugly infected mouth as you serve me French fries! 

I am sick of 'Political Correctness.' I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born in  Africa  ; so how can they be 'African-Americans/Canadian/British'? Besides,  Africa  is a continent.. I don't go around saying I am a European-American because my great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from Europe . I am proud to be from America and nowhere else 

And if you don't like my point of view, tough... 

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE  CANADIAN FLAG, to the BRITISH FLAG & TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA  , AND TO THE REPUBLIC, FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION , INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTYAND JUSTICE FOR ALL! 

I was asked to send this on if I agree, or delete if I don't. It is said that on average 86% of Canadians/ Americans & British believe in God. Therefore I have a very hard time understanding why there is such a problem in having 'In God We Trust' on American money and having 'God' in the Pledge of Allegiance. Why don't we just tell the 15%+ to BE QUIET!!! 

If you agree, pass this on, if not delete. 

 
Lonegunmen2008-07-12 16:20:33
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Brilliant.
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I'm sure I've been in the backseat of this guys cab...
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Some of that stuff seemed a bit harsh to me, but I'd say 90% or so of that was spot on. I don't get why he's pledging alleigance to the British flag though...
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kiwi pie wrote:
I'm sure I've been in the backseat of this guys cab...


 


That's fine LG, but god i hate the term "PC brigade" - if you challenge someone who thinks like this's views, then your part of the PC brigade, from then on, the arguments over, cos your just a member of the PC brigade, so your argument doesn't matter. I have liberal views on some things, but not on others - but if i say something liberal, i'm automatically lumped together with everyone else. I'm guessing taht if you have a right wing view on something, you don't automatically want to be labelled a redneck?


I like tautologies because I like them.
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That God stuff at the end is worrying... what makes your imaginary deity more valid than anybody else's?
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You lack of correctness offends me Bevan... I'm of the school that it's better be glad that someone believes in SOMETHING rather than thinking they're wrong. Unless they're an athiest, then I respect their position by my opinion is that they are just wrong, wrong, wrong.
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Critical_Lemon wrote:
You lack of correctness offends me Bevan... I'm of the school that it's better be glad that someone believes in SOMETHING rather than thinking they're wrong. Unless they're an athiest, then I respect their position by my opinion is that they are just wrong, wrong, wrong.


Hitler believed in something
I like tautologies because I like them.
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Hitler was also severly disturbed.
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Mm, I should have been more specific.
I meant the notion that a country believes it has God on its side is the scary thing.

That leads to wars and genocide (and general intolerance of other countries ...)
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Cosimo wrote:
kiwi pie wrote:
I'm sure I've been in the backseat of this guys cab...


 


That's fine LG, but god i hate the term "PC brigade" - if you challenge someone who thinks like this's views, then your part of the PC brigade, from then on, the arguments over, cos your just a member of the PC brigade, so your argument doesn't matter. I have liberal views on some things, but not on others - but if i say something liberal, i'm automatically lumped together with everyone else. I'm guessing taht if you have a right wing view on something, you don't automatically want to be labelled a redneck?


 
There is a difference in being Liberal and in being PC. Being liberal means being open minded on many things, Being PC is to be careful of what you say in case someone might feel offended. IMHO that is.
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Bevan wrote:
Mm, I should have been more specific.
I meant the notion that a country believes it has God on its side is the scary thing.

That leads to wars and genocide (and general intolerance of other countries ...)


doesn't everyone that believes in god? i can't see a religious country thinking god is on the enemies side
I like tautologies because I like them.
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Lonegunmen wrote:
Cosimo wrote:
kiwi pie wrote:
I'm sure I've been in the backseat of this guys cab...


 


That's fine LG, but god i hate the term "PC brigade" - if you challenge someone who thinks like this's views, then your part of the PC brigade, from then on, the arguments over, cos your just a member of the PC brigade, so your argument doesn't matter. I have liberal views on some things, but not on others - but if i say something liberal, i'm automatically lumped together with everyone else. I'm guessing taht if you have a right wing view on something, you don't automatically want to be labelled a redneck?


 
There is a difference in being Liberal and in being PC. Being liberal means being open minded on many things, Being PC is to be careful of what you say in case someone might feel offended. IMHO that is.


very true, but something you might see as being PC might just seem like commonsense to someone else, but just that one thing, and that doesn't warrant someone to be labelled part of the "PC brigade", that's all - if i don't believe in everything in that list, does that make me part of the PC brigade? the term is just a talkback radio-caller's wet dream
I like tautologies because I like them.
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Yeah, bringing god into war is pretty sad, and stupid. I find it hard to believe god would want anyone to go around killing other people.
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Cosimo wrote:
Bevan wrote:
Mm, I should have been more specific.
I meant the notion that a country believes it has God on its side is the scary thing.

That leads to wars and genocide (and general intolerance of other countries ...)


doesn't everyone that believes in god? i can't see a religious country thinking god is on the enemies side
 
Except Dislexics because they believe in Dog.
 
Thanks 2nd best, I have bookmarked that site for future reference. Apologies to all.
Lonegunmen2008-07-13 19:03:50
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Agree 100% with everything mentioned in the above post LG. Ive had a few debates saying pretty much what the above mentioned - he sums it up nicely. 
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i love the bit about wrestling..."YOU CAIN'T JUDGE ME! YOU DON'T KNOW ME! i can enjoy pro wrestling if i want to". But i thought he doesn't like homosexuals...
I like tautologies because I like them.
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im a liberal on some issues, i think to often being a liberal is claimed to be the same as being pc.

www.kiwifromthecouch.blogspot.com

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Being right is claimed as being a Nazi... whats the difference?
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bopman wrote:
im a liberal on some issues, i think to often being a liberal is claimed to be the same as being pc.

Which is completely wrong, liberalism is actually the right-wing lassiez-faire attitude - not interfering with peoples lives too much and letting them do almost anything they want. Pretty much the opposite of the attitude of the PC 'brigade'.
Critical_Lemon2008-07-14 07:04:48
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Critical_Lemon wrote:
bopman wrote:
im a liberal on some issues, i think to often being a liberal is claimed to be the same as being pc.

Which is completely wrong, liberalism is actually the right-wing lassiez-faire attitude - not interfering with peoples lives too much and letting them do almost anything they want. Pretty much the opposite of the attitude of the PC 'brigade'.


that's old-time liberal, although there is definitely some cross-over. And yes, calling someone a nazi for having rightwing views is stupid - that's my point - tackle the argument, not the person
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It's more American liberal, given the use of 'Liberal' in the name of political parties in Westminster governments. ACT brand themselves the liberal party, Liberal party in aussie, and the Lib-Dems in the UK. It's a confusion over the proper usage because of the American meaning being pretty much the opposite to the British one rather than it being a case of old and new liberal.

I quote Leonard Liggio: Classical liberalism is liberalism, but the current collectivists have captured that designation in the United States. Happily they did not capture it in Europe, and were glad enough to call themselves socialists. But no one in America wants to be called socialist and admit what they are.
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Lonegunmen wrote:
Cosimo wrote:
Bevan wrote:
Mm, I should have been more specific.
I meant the notion that a country believes it has God on its side is the scary thing.

That leads to wars and genocide (and general intolerance of other countries ...)


doesn't everyone that believes in god? i can't see a religious country thinking god is on the enemies side
 
Except Dislexics because they believe in Dog.
 
Thanks 2nd best, I have bookmarked that site for future reference. Apologies to all.
 
It's a good site.  the only reason i looked it up is that it seemed kinda strange things to say on 60mins
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Yes, you are correct and i'll be using it a lot more often when I receive those types of e-mails. I type this as I wipe more egg off my face!
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Critical_Lemon wrote:
It's more American liberal, given the use of 'Liberal' in the name of political parties in Westminster governments. ACT brand themselves the liberal party, Liberal party in aussie, and the Lib-Dems in the UK. It's a confusion over the proper usage because of the American meaning being pretty much the opposite to the British one rather than it being a case of old and new liberal.

I quote Leonard Liggio: Classical liberalism is liberalism, but the current collectivists have captured that designation in the United States. Happily they did not capture it in Europe, and were glad enough to call themselves socialists. But no one in America wants to be called socialist and admit what they are.


it's not American liberal, it used to be - liberal/conservative = (loosely) left wing/right wing in the US. Anyway, we live in NZ.

You're thinking of Classical Liberal. Liberal nowadays, in NZ, nearly always refers to Social Liberalism. Social liberalism is also referred to as neoliberalism, or new liberalism.

You have to argue it in context - it's like the meaning of the word "free" - means different things to different people. But to say liberal in the ACT sense, you really need to differentiate it, otherwise 9/10 people will think you mean social liberal. Words meaning change over time, Liggio should know that.
Cosimo2008-07-14 18:14:49
I like tautologies because I like them.
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