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Osama bin Laden dead

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Maybe a remake of the classic Wenger Boys song: "Boom, boom, boom, I want you in my room"?




Coat on.


Sorry

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Leggy wrote:
Tegal wrote:
Yeah thats what I was thinking. Then imagined potential extremists watching it and hating America more. Kind of like how we would react if they killed an American and started dancing on the street in celebration....Terrible circle.
 

Some sort of 9/11 memorial service or something more sombre would have been more appropriate rather than the typical macho patriotic american thing they went and did.


I thought it understandable.
Some extremists did exactly that after 9/11.
Id have thought that only further enforced my point.

Allegedly

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Wongo wrote:
How have they verified that it is Osama? Did he have his drivers licence, business card, & video library card in his wallet?
Maybe his Arsenal season ticket??
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Gooner 4 Life wrote:
Wongo wrote:
How have they verified that it is Osama? Did he have his drivers licence, business card, & video library card in his wallet?


Maybe his Arsenal season ticket??


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Robb wrote:

That for serious?
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It's Fox 2B. Would you put it past them?

Three for me, and two for them.

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
not at all.  Just wondering if someone is taking the piss.

I see they have dropped the body off the back of a boat.  Should be some good conspiracy theories popping up now.
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2ndBest wrote:
not at all.  Just wondering if someone is taking the piss.
I'm thinking it's legit (popped up on Twitter way too quickly to be a shop IIRC, and also it's Fox) but for all I know it could very well be a pisstake.
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I must say. Thank god something else has taken the headlines apart from the Royal Wedding. Real news for a change.
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I sincerely hope that the death occurred during the gunfight and not in an execution-like manner which I've heard a few suggest, though admittedly they were far from people who'd be in the know.

Though you would think it would have been in America's interest to catch him if possible and trial him to make themselves look more legitimate and to give themselves the moral high ground.
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JanelleRT wrote:
I must say. Thank god something else has taken the headlines apart from the Royal Wedding. Real news for a change.









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Traitor wrote:
JanelleRT wrote:
I must say. Thank god something else has taken the headlines apart from the Royal Wedding. Real news for a change.









 
Really good that.
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2ndBest wrote:
not at all.  Just wondering if someone is taking the piss.

I see they have dropped the body off the back of a boat.  Should be some good conspiracy theories popping up now.
 
yeah that ol' trick - how can anyone verify it really is osama, and who they hell cares - there will be 6 other's lining up to take his place and get revenge.

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i believe there is a thing called DNA now days that helps.
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Tegal wrote:
linds2 wrote:
"World Hide And Go Seek Champion Dies"
Had them fooled looking in caves,but he was in a mansion all along.
 
Does anybody find the street celebrations in the US quite bad?
 
yeah last night's 10.30 news footage of americans whooping it up made me cringe...
 
their 'yays we got the bastard' left off the 'after only 9.5 yrs of using top of the line intelligence & technology to hunt down a terminally ill man who was always eluding us with very low tech capability and not many friends to turn to for help'
 
the footage of street partying also just had the 'yay we made the world a safer place' and left off the 'even tho the previous days kilking of 3 under 12 kids related to a diff evil baddie has spawned a whole new generation of jihadists who loathe us'
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stealthkiwi wrote:
Tegal wrote:
linds2 wrote:
"World Hide And Go Seek Champion Dies"
Had them fooled looking in caves,but he was in a mansion all along.
 
Does anybody find the street celebrations in the US quite bad?
 
yeah last night's 10.30 news footage of americans whooping it up made me cringe...
 
their 'yays we got the bastard' left off the 'after only 9.5 yrs of using top of the line intelligence & technology to hunt down a terminally ill man who was always eluding us with very low tech capability and not many friends to turn to for help'
 
the footage of street partying also just had the 'yay we made the world a safer place' and left off the 'even tho the previous days kilking of 3 under 12 kids related to a diff evil baddie has spawned a whole new generation of jihadists who loathe us'
Especially when they see us celebrating in the streets the way we are.

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
SK is completely right.

An eye for an eye, and all that....

Three for me, and two for them.

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Interesting reactions here.  My first thought is along the lines of SK, Tegal et al.
 
However is this too much different from celebrations for Victory in Europe or Victory in Japan some 60 years ago?
 
While there are many other things at higher scales of human suffering, 9/11 was a pretty devasting blow to the USA psyche and would have affected many of its citizens.  I'd imagine if one of my relatives was lost then I'd be pretty stoked about this.
 
The thing for the US is that while this is a significant setback for Al Quaeda there will still be a lot more it needs to do before the threat of terrorist attacks from that group becomes minimal (revising its foreign policy would be a start, but also assisting the popular Muslim movements throughout the Arab states that are calling for more secular government).
 
 
 
(blimmin' 'eck.  I just got serious for a bit. Better lie down)
 
 

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I'm sure the Al-Quaeda will be blowing up over the US' reaction to his death.
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2ndBest wrote:
i believe there is a thing called DNA now days that helps.
 
need access to the body to get dna thoughm if the body is at the bottom of some ocean ebing eaten by the fish then gaining DNA could be a little tough.
theprof2011-05-03 14:15:56

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Junior82 wrote:
Interesting reactions here.  My first thought is along the lines of SK, Tegal et al.
 
However is this too much different from celebrations for Victory in Europe or Victory in Japan some 60 years ago?
 
While there are many other things at higher scales of human suffering, 9/11 was a pretty devasting blow to the USA psyche and would have affected many of its citizens.  I'd imagine if one of my relatives was lost then I'd be pretty stoked about this.
 
The thing for the US is that while this is a significant setback for Al Quaeda there will still be a lot more it needs to do before the threat of terrorist attacks from that group becomes minimal (revising its foreign policy would be a start, but also assisting the popular Muslim movements throughout the Arab states that are calling for more secular government).
 
 
 
(blimmin' 'eck.  I just got serious for a bit. Better lie down)
 
 
 
 
YEAH RIGHT as the tui billboard wd say...
 
Both the Taliban and Al Quaeda have no problems with recruiting... American's and their continued avoidance of 'why' people hated them that passionately to start with and their general small minded we are the Sheriff attitude is a constant fertaliser to creating new enemies for themselves
 
I'm sorry 9/11 happened and I believe Osama bin Laden was behind it and should/deserved to pay the penalty. But I think its a bit embarassing to celebrate in such a big way when its ridiculous how long he managed to outfox them and I fully admit I wouldn't have as much sympathy if they ever have a similar occurence because they have never truly self examined and looked at the 'whys' - they just focus on the 'whos'... and lets face it their original verdict of the who being Iraq was wrong and the rest of the world knew it from day 1
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Knocking off the spirtual figure head is a big blow psychologically if not operationally.  That will be a set back (what would happen if the pope or the dalai lama or Queenie Liz got knocked off - many people would be upset).
 
The Taliban existed before the US entered Afghanistan.  The US (& Allies) is just the latest occupying force that provides a focal point for their activiities.
 
Al Quaeda being global is the greater threat to the US & Allies.  Both are fundamentalist in nature so it is a bit like the far right groups in USA.
 
As far as crowd reaction goes - that's just the way they do it over there.  If it happened to us we might just raise the eybrows and nod the head and then continue milking the cows or shearing the sheep.  As I said if I'd lost a family member to something like 9/11 (or Lockerbie) my reaction would be somewhat OTT.
 
 
 

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theprof wrote:
2ndBest wrote:
i believe there is a thing called DNA now days that helps.
 
need access to the body to get dna thoughm if the body is at the bottom of some ocean ebing eaten by the fish then gaining DNA could be a little tough.
Um they had the body.  So have already tested for it, and confirmed with 99.9% accuracy.  Thus no need to keep the body.
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Conspiracy!
 
 

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Junior82 wrote:
Knocking off the spirtual figure head is a big blow psychologically if not operationally.  That will be a set back (what would happen if the pope or the dalai lama or Queenie Liz got knocked off - many people would be upset).
 
 
 
Thats partly my point. knocking off someone like the dali lama or the queen only polarises and solidifes the hatred of those who follow them
 
but anyway... only the US media seems to think it will dampen Al Quaede... the rest of the world's media seems to be of the opinion it will have little effect
 
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As an organisation (however loose AQ is) it would cause you to take stock of your own safety, movements, upcoming activities and communications.  It would certainly be a set back.
 
Long-term AQ would set  in place revised practices/procedures to reduce any further attacks on it's figureheads/leaders.
 
The setback is in relation to activities, not popular support.  For popular support to wane nullifying the attraction for fundamentalism would be the more effective but very long-term approach (hearts and minds and a full belly of yummy food).
 
 

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Some comments re people celeberating the killing of UBL are quite bizarre.
This is not just about 9/11. The low like was responsible for the killing of thousands of people around the world, most of them muslim.
People have very short memories. The Dar es Salaam and Nairobi bombings, London and Madrid bombings,thousands of Iraqis and Pakastanis killed in the last few years.
It is no wonder people were jubilant.
The difference between the Yanks and the Jihadists cheering was that one was celebrating the death of a killer/terrorist and the other of innocent people.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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Depends on your point of view. If you were on the verge of being an extremist,and you saw America celebrating on the streets over someone dying,you'd come to the conclusion that they're evil.

Yes,he was evil. But celebrating a death like that isn't really right. It's not like it's the end of a war.

Allegedly

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He was buried at sea so as to avoid a point of focus for any type of hero worship, but still buried in the Islamic way.
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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Heaps of interesting articles about bin Laden and al Qaeda written by Jason Burke of the Guardian here

One of his key points is that in recent times the threat from al Qaeda has been overstated and based more in myth than reality...

Jason Burke in the Guardian wrote:
...in recent years the increasing marginalisation of al-Qaida � culturally, socially and geographically � has been very clear. The Arab Spring demonstrated how Bin Laden's message had been rejected by those hundreds of millions he once sought to radicalise and mobilise. Al-Qaida had orchestrated no major successful attack for more than five years. The recruits were coming to the makeshift Pakistani camps but only in enough numbers to assure the core group's survival not its success, at least not in the short term.

The most likely scenario in the future is continuing low-level violence and threat shifting around the periphery of the Islamic world depending on local circumstances and the emergence of new leaders. "My life or death does not matter. The awakening has started," Bin Laden boasted in late 2001. It will be at least another decade before we know if he was right.


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From FB....

" It's Amazing what the Americans can do when the PS3 Network is down. "
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Tegal wrote:
Depends on your point of view. If you were on the verge of being an extremist,and you saw America celebrating on the streets over someone dying,you'd come to the conclusion that they're evil.

Yes,he was evil. But celebrating a death like that isn't really right. It's not like it's the end of a war.


Well I'm f**king glad anyway.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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What is it good for?

We will never fully decide who has won the football.

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NEWSFLASH: Elton John to play at Osama's memorial service.  He'll be singing 'Sandals in the Bin'.
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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
NEWSFLASH: Prince Harry reported missing after a secret fancy dress party somewhere in Pakistan..
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theprof wrote:
2ndBest wrote:
i believe there is a thing called DNA now days that helps.
 
need access to the body to get dna thoughm if the body is at the bottom of some ocean ebing eaten by the fish then gaining DNA could be a little tough.


The fact they had the body earlier leads me to believe they probably obtained DNA samples prior to dropping it out at sea.  If not, lol.
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Tell me you don't actually believe they wouldn't take all means of identifications before they dropped him?
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NEWSFLASH: massive roundup of al-Qaeda operatives in Wainui: Bin Rootin', Bin Smashing, Bin Drinking, and Bin Stealing all captured. 
 
But Bin Working has yet to be sighted. 
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