terryslovechild offtopic dump

terryslovechild offtopic dump

There's a Rugby World Cup?

What's rugby?

lol! Or a Rugby League World Cup!

Joke of the century.

Dont worry about rugby lads just worry about Football in New Zeland lasting at least 4 years without going bankrupt. 

Rugby World Cup - Enough Said!!!

1. Murray Mexted Jag2008-09-05 14:50:12

Bloody oath, been awhile since Daniel was in the den

I think that was Jags point.

By what measure ?

Do you believe that if the media in this country gave cover to domestic football in a way that was representative of competitor numbers, or genuine interest, do you think it would still be ?

With immigration patterns and the choice out there, there is now a significant proportion of the New Zealand public that don't care about sport, then there is another portion that have got tired of the likes of Jim Kayes and his mates with 'poofball' stereotypes, all before you look at the competitor numbers and the people who would just rather watch football.

I've always enjoyed Union, but the more I hear and see of the media manipulation and the ignorance of some of those people the further I get from ever returning to a game of Union.  I still like the game, but the administrators and much of the media keep away from it.

The days where New Zealand is all about Rugby are gone, it's just the NZRFU and the media that pay them obscene amounts them for a substandard product that have yet to realise it.  As Rugby grows in football markets around the world the Ostrich's have yet to click that the reverse is happening here.

Jag2008-09-09 15:06:40

What did the Vikings ever win in the 1st Division to deserve the title of 'great team'?

it's a trickle more than a flood though isnt it. a team like the manawatu turbos can get crowds to rival the phoenix, so i just cant see where the "rugby is dying" people are coming from. sure the popularity of rugby isnt what it once was, but it wont be for a long time that football overtakes rugby.

rodfarva2008-09-09 15:08:42

Yes, but for every Manawatu there are 3,500 at Canterbury vs Auckland and that is the competitions 'banner' match, they can't even pay people to attend. Christchuch got 6,500 to see the Phoenix jog around against a Mainland side that no one could name a single player from. There is a 250 for Counties at Ericsson or 1500 (yeah right) at North Harbour Stadium.

As for interest, almost any street in urban NZ will have more football strips on it than Rugby merchandise, has been the case for the best part of 15 years but any chance the media would represent that ?

As I say, used to be a big fan of the game, but it's become the excuse for a pack of narrow-minded and ill-informed administrative and media twats to beat up and stomp all over everyone in this country for too long.

Rod,

Let's take a step back.  This thread was a VERY lame troll from tlc, what did he expect as a response ?  I admire you for fighting the good fight, but to some extent you are arguing points that were never made. 

Don't do yourself a disservice by trying to justify quite frankly average quality trolling, and don't let people troll you in return for tlc's ignorance.

rodfarva2008-09-09 15:32:50

Silly question... whats a troll/trolling?

and please... be nice

Urbandictionary is your friend Surge:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll
Hard News2008-09-09 16:06:25

Penny has now hit the bottom... thanks News :)

I wonder with NZ's small population base and limited funding compared to other Rugby playing nations (and developing rugby nations) will NZ stay the dominant force in Rugby? If Rugby was really to grow to become a world game I think it may be hard for NZ to keep its dominance it has had. I think that may happen in my lifetime, and if it does the balance of power in the media and sponsorship $ could shift, with football, I think, benefiting; though Rugby will still be the big brother of sports in NZ. 

The "there are more football shirts on the street than rugby shirts" argument is not at all relevant or representative if you think about the economics. Football is a middle class game played mostly by white people with a large european expat influence. Thats why there are so many shirts on the street. Rugby is a different demographic, only have to compare a lions crowd to a nix crowd to see that.

nonesense there's fiji football tournaments, indian football tournaments  etc played throughout N.Z,we even play against teams made up of certain ethnic genders in capital football they too wear tops from english football sides as well as others. so this whole whites only play football is in my view is nonesense, it's more that we get more coverage of english football than other leagues through the media, even in third world countries they play football amongst themselves and still you see them wearing man utd,arsenal tops etc etc

rugby wil never be the number 2 sport fair enough, but theres no harm giving it a run for it's money.
The lions have the same promtion as last home game, all adults can bring as many kids too the games as they like for free, three or four years ago that would be unheard of, somethings changing

can't disagree there.
giddyup2008-09-09 17:34:56

Why do you lot persist with such an inferior member?