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Posted November 18, 2017 05:09 · last edited November 18, 2017 05:12

[quote=Tegal]

Maybe read the link before making a fool of yourself. Not sure why you’re calling me a young Nat, this isn’t even a political discussion it’s a statistical one. Stats NZ is independent of the government. 

Besides, I’m actually more closely aligned with labour or greens in my belief that the WINZ system sucks - it needs to be way simpler with the stigma of receiving a benefit removed. A UBI is an interesting idea that I’m tentatively in favour of. I think benefits should be easier to get - of course a small number will take advantage and just take the benefit without ever trying to seek work, but you get that now anyway and I think that just needs to be accepted as a cost of having a system that actually helps people rather than one that stigmatises them. 

But good job assuming my beliefs based on nothing. 

As I said, you can be unemployed and not on a benefit. Or you can be receiving a benefit and be employed. 

As to whether you would’ve been part of the unemployed % - you would have as long as you were looking for a job. An example of being unemployed and not being eligible for a benefit (and it’s also an example of natural unemployment, so thanks for that)

I don’t really know how many more ways I can explain this or what other information I can provide you to help you understand, and you seem to be getting quite personal in your comments toward me (yet again). So I think I’ll just leave it there for now. 

[/quote

Not personal but obviously I need to explain it to you very very simply 

Quit your job or hell get fired from the movie theatre  if you wish and then ask the government if you are registered as an unemployed statistic

Until you actually do you are talking out of your ass

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Unknown editor edited November 18, 2017 05:12

[quote=Tegal]

Maybe read the link before making a fool of yourself. Not sure why you’re calling me a young Nat, this isn’t even a political discussion it’s a statistical one. Stats NZ is independent of the government. 

Besides, I’m actually more closely aligned with labour or greens in my belief that the WINZ system sucks - it needs to be way simpler with the stigma of receiving a benefit removed. A UBI is an interesting idea that I’m tentatively in favour of. I think benefits should be easier to get - of course a small number will take advantage and just take the benefit without ever trying to seek work, but you get that now anyway and I think that just needs to be accepted as a cost of having a system that actually helps people rather than one that stigmatises them. 

But good job assuming my beliefs based on nothing. 

As I said, you can be unemployed and not on a benefit. Or you can be receiving a benefit and be employed. 

As to whether you would’ve been part of the unemployed % - you would have as long as you were looking for a job. An example of being unemployed and not being eligible for a benefit (and it’s also an example of natural unemployment, so thanks for that)

I don’t really know how many more ways I can explain this or what other information I can provide you to help you understand, and you seem to be getting quite personal in your comments toward me (yet again). So I think I’ll just leave it there for now. 

[/quote

Not personal but obviously I need to explain it to you very very simply 

Quit your job or hell get fired from the movie theatre  if you wish and then ask the government if you are registered as an unemployed statistic

Until you actually do do you are talking out of your ass

Unknown editor edited November 18, 2017 05:12

[quote=Tegal]

Maybe read the link before making a fool of yourself. Not sure why you’re calling me a young Nat, this isn’t even a political discussion it’s a statistical one. Stats NZ is independent of the government. 

Besides, I’m actually more closely aligned with labour or greens in my belief that the WINZ system sucks - it needs to be way simpler with the stigma of receiving a benefit removed. A UBI is an interesting idea that I’m tentatively in favour of. I think benefits should be easier to get - of course a small number will take advantage and just take the benefit without ever trying to seek work, but you get that now anyway and I think that just needs to be accepted as a cost of having a system that actually helps people rather than one that stigmatises them. 

But good job assuming my beliefs based on nothing. 

As I said, you can be unemployed and not on a benefit. Or you can be receiving a benefit and be employed. 

As to whether you would’ve been part of the unemployed % - you would have as long as you were looking for a job. An example of being unemployed and not being eligible for a benefit (and it’s also an example of natural unemployment, so thanks for that)

I don’t really know how many more ways I can explain this or what other information I can provide you to help you understand, and you seem to be getting quite personal in your comments toward me (yet again). So I think I’ll just leave it there for now. 

[/quote

Not personal but obviously I need to explain it to you very very simply 

Quit your job or hell get fired from the movie theatre  if you wish and then ask the government if you are registered as an unemployed statistic

Until you actually do you are talking out of your ass

Unknown editor edited November 18, 2017 05:11

[quote=Tegal]

Maybe read the link before making a fool of yourself. Not sure why you’re calling me a young Nat, this isn’t even a political discussion it’s a statistical one. Stats NZ is independent of the government. 

Besides, I’m actually more closely aligned with labour or greens in my belief that the WINZ system sucks - it needs to be way simpler with the stigma of receiving a benefit removed. A UBI is an interesting idea that I’m tentatively in favour of. I think benefits should be easier to get - of course a small number will take advantage and just take the benefit without ever trying to seek work, but you get that now anyway and I think that just needs to be accepted as a cost of having a system that actually helps people rather than one that stigmatises them. 

But good job assuming my beliefs based on nothing. 

As I said, you can be unemployed and not on a benefit. Or you can be receiving a benefit and be employed. 

As to whether you would’ve been part of the unemployed % - you would have as long as you were looking for a job. An example of being unemployed and not being eligible for a benefit (and it’s also an example of natural unemployment, so thanks for that)

I don’t really know how many more ways I can explain this or what other information I can provide you to help you understand, and you seem to be getting quite personal in your comments toward me (yet again). So I think I’ll just leave it there for now. 

[/quote

Not personal but obviously I need to explain it to you very very simply 

Quit your job or hell get fired from the movie theatre  if you wish and then ask the government if you are registered as an unemployed statistic

Unknown editor edited November 18, 2017 05:10

[quote=Tegal]

Maybe read the link before making a fool of yourself. Not sure why you’re calling me a young Nat, this isn’t even a political discussion it’s a statistical one. Stats NZ is independent of the government. 

Besides, I’m actually more closely aligned with labour or greens in my belief that the WINZ system sucks - it needs to be way simpler with the stigma of receiving a benefit removed. A UBI is an interesting idea that I’m tentatively in favour of. I think benefits should be easier to get - of course a small number will take advantage and just take the benefit without ever trying to seek work, but you get that now anyway and I think that just needs to be accepted as a cost of having a system that actually helps people rather than one that stigmatises them. 

But good job assuming my beliefs based on nothing. 

As I said, you can be unemployed and not on a benefit. Or you can be receiving a benefit and be employed. 

As to whether you would’ve been part of the unemployed % - you would have as long as you were looking for a job. An example of being unemployed and not being eligible for a benefit (and it’s also an example of natural unemployment, so thanks for that)

I don’t really know how many more ways I can explain this or what other information I can provide you to help you understand, and you seem to be getting quite personal in your comments toward me (yet again). So I think I’ll just leave it there for now. 

[/quote

Not personal but obviously I need to explain it to you very very simply 

Quit your job or hell get fired from the movie theatre  if you wish and then ask the government if you are registered as unemployed statistic