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Posted November 18, 2017 04:27 · last edited November 18, 2017 04:46

Maybe read the link before making a fool of yourself. Not sure why you’re calling me a young Nat, this isn’t even a political discussion it’s a statistical one. Stats NZ is independent of the government. 

Besides, I’m actually more closely aligned with labour or greens in my belief that the WINZ system sucks - it needs to be way simpler with the stigma of receiving a benefit removed. A UBI is an interesting idea that I’m tentatively in favour of. I think benefits should be easier to get - of course a small number will take advantage and just take the benefit without ever trying to seek work, but you get that now anyway and I think that just needs to be accepted as a cost of having a system that actually helps people rather than one that stigmatises them. 

But good job assuming my beliefs based on nothing. 

As I said, you can be unemployed and not on a benefit. Or you can be receiving a benefit and be employed. 

As to whether you would’ve been part of the unemployed % - you would have as long as you were looking for a job. An example of being unemployed and not being eligible for a benefit (and it’s also an example of natural unemployment, so thanks for that)

I don’t really know how many more ways I can explain this or what other information I can provide you to help you understand, and you seem to be getting quite personal in your comments toward me (yet again). So I think I’ll just leave it there for now. 

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Unknown editor edited November 18, 2017 04:46

Maybe read the link before making a fool of yourself. Not sure why you’re calling me a young Nat, this isn’t even a political discussion it’s a statistical one. Stats NZ is independent of the government. 

I’m actually more closely aligned with labour or greens in my belief that the WINZ system sucks - it needs to be way simpler with the stigma of receiving a benefit removed. A UBI is an interesting idea that I’m tentatively in favour of. I think benefits should be easier to get - of course a small number will take advantage and just take the benefit without ever trying to seek work, but you get that now anyway and I think that just needs to be accepted as a cost of having a system that actually helps people rather than one that stigmatises them. 

But good job assuming my beliefs based on nothing. 

As I said, you can be unemployed and not on a benefit. Or you can be receiving a benefit and be employed. 

As to whether you would’ve been part of the unemployed % - you would have as long as you were looking for a job. An example of being unemployed and not being eligible for a benefit (and it’s also an example of natural unemployment, so thanks for that)

I don’t really know how many more ways I can explain this or what other information I can provide you to help you understand, and you seem to be getting quite personal in your comments toward me (yet again). So I think I’ll just leave it there for now. 

Unknown editor edited November 18, 2017 04:39

Maybe read the link before making a fool of yourself. Not sure why you’re calling me a young Nat, this isn’t even a political discussion it’s a statistical one. 

I’m actually more closely aligned with labour or greens in my belief that the WINZ system sucks - it needs to be way simpler with the stigma of receiving a benefit removed. A UBI is an interesting idea that I’m tentatively in favour of. I think benefits should be easier to get - of course a small number will take advantage and just take the benefit without ever trying to seek work, but you get that now anyway and I think that just needs to be accepted as a cost of having a system that actually helps people rather than one that stigmatises them. 

But good job assuming my beliefs based on nothing. 

As I said, you can be unemployed and not on a benefit. Or you can be receiving a benefit and be employed. 

As to whether you would’ve been part of the unemployed % - you would have as long as you were looking for a job. An example of being unemployed and not being eligible for a benefit (and it’s also an example of natural unemployment, so thanks for that)

I don’t really know how many more ways I can explain this or what other information I can provide you to help you understand, and you seem to be getting quite personal in your comments toward me (yet again). So I think I’ll just leave it there for now. 

Unknown editor edited November 18, 2017 04:38

Maybe read the link before making a fool of yourself. Not sure why you’re calling me a young Nat, this isn’t even a political discussion it’s a statistical one. 

I’m actually more closely aligned with labour or greens in my belief that the WINZ system sucks - it needs to be way simpler with the stigma of receiving a benefit removed. A UBI is an interesting idea that I’m tentatively in favour of. I think benefits should be easier to get - of course a small number will take advantage and just take the benefit without ever trying to seek work, but you get that now anyway and I think that just needs to be accepted as a cost of having a system that actually helps people rather than one that stigmatises them. 

But good job assuming my beliefs based on nothing. 

As I said, you can be unemployed and not on a benefit. Or you can be on a benefit and be employed. 

As to whether you would’ve been part of the unemployed % - you would have as long as you were looking for a job. An example of being unemployed and not being eligible for a benefit (and it’s also an example of natural unemployment, so thanks for that)

I don’t really know how many more ways I can explain this or what other information I can provide you to help you understand, and you seem to be getting quite personal in your comments toward me (yet again). So I think I’ll just leave it there for now. 

Unknown editor edited November 18, 2017 04:38

Maybe read the link before making a fool of yourself. Not sure why you’re calling me a young Nat, this isn’t even a political discussion it’s a statistical one. 

I’m actually more closely aligned with labour or greens in my belief that the WINZ system sucks - it needs to be way simpler with the stigma of receiving a benefit removed. A UBI is an interesting idea that I’m tentatively in favour of. I think benefits should be easier to get - of course a small number will take advantage and just take the benefit without ever trying to seek work, but you get that now anyway and I think that just needs to be accepted as a cost of having a system that actually helps people rather than one that stigmatises them. 

But good job assuming my beliefs based on nothing. 

As I said, you can be unemployed and not on a benefit. Or you can be in a benefit and be employed. 

As to whether you would’ve been part of the unemployed % - you would have as long as you were looking for a job. An example of being unemployed and not being eligible for a benefit (and it’s also an example of natural unemployment, so thanks for that)

I don’t really know how many more ways I can explain this or what other information I can provide you to help you understand, and you seem to be getting quite personal in your comments toward me (yet again). So I think I’ll just leave it there for now. 

Unknown editor edited November 18, 2017 04:35

Maybe read the link before making a fool of yourself. Not sure why you’re calling me a young Nat, this isn’t even a political discussion it’s a statistical one. 

I’m actually more closely aligned with labour or greens in my belief that the WINZ system sucks - it needs to be way simpler with the stigma of receiving a benefit removed. A UBI is an interesting idea that I’m tentatively in favour of. I think benefits should be easier to get - of course a minority will take advantage and just take the benefit without ever trying to seek work, but you get that now anyway and I think that just needs to be accepted as a cost of having a system that actually helps people rather than one that stigmatises them. 

But good job assuming my beliefs based on nothing. 

As I said, you can be unemployed and not on a benefit. Or you can be in a benefit and be employed. 

As to whether you would’ve been part of the unemployed % - you would have as long as you were looking for a job. An example of being unemployed and not being eligible for a benefit (and it’s also an example of natural unemployment, so thanks for that)

I don’t really know how many more ways I can explain this or what other information I can provide you to help you understand, and you seem to be getting quite personal in your comments toward me (yet again). So I think I’ll just leave it there for now. 

Unknown editor edited November 18, 2017 04:35

Maybe read the link before making a fool of yourself. Not sure why you’re calling me a young Nat, this isn’t even a political discussion it’s a statistical one. 

I’m actually more closely aligned with labour or greens in my belief that the WINZ system sucks - it needs to be way simpler with the stigma of receiving a benefit removed. A UBI is an interesting idea that I’m tentatively in favour of. I think benefits should be easier to get - of course a minority will take advantage and just take the benefit without ever trying to seek work, but you get that now anyway and I think that just needs to be accepted as a cost of having a system that actually helps people rather than one that stigmatises them. 

But good job assuming my beliefs based on nothing. 

As I said, you can be unemployed and not on a benefit. Or you can be in a benefit and be employed. 

As to whether you would’ve been part of the unemployed % - you would have as long as you were looking for a job. An example of being unemployed and not being eligible for a benefit (and it’s also an example of natural unemployment, so thanks for that)

I don’t really know how many more ways I can explain this or what other information I can provide you to help you understand, and you seem to be getting quite personal in your comments toward me. So I think I’ll just leave it there for now. 

Unknown editor edited November 18, 2017 04:34

Maybe read the link before making a fool of yourself. Not sure why you’re calling me a young Nat, this isn’t even a political discussion it’s a statistical one. 

I’m actually more closely aligned with labour or greens in my belief that the WINZ system sucks - it needs to be way simpler with the stigma of receiving a benefit removed. A UBI is an interesting idea that I’m tentatively in favour of. I think benefits should be easier to get - of course a minority will take advantage and just take the benefit without ever trying to seek work, but you get that now anyway and I think that just needs to be accepted as a cost of having a system that actually helps people rather than one that stigmatises them. 

But good job assuming my beliefs based on nothing. 

As I said, you can be unemployed and not on a benefit. Or you can be in a benefit and be employed. 

As to whether you would’ve been part of the unemployed % - you would have as long as you were looking for a job. An example of being unemployed and not being eligible for a benefit (and it’s also an example of natural unemployment, so thanks for that)

I don’t really know how many more ways I can explain this or what other information I can provide you to help you understand. So I think I’ll just leave it there for now. 

Unknown editor edited November 18, 2017 04:33

Maybe read the link before making a fool of yourself. Not sure why you’re calling me a young Nat, this isn’t even a political discussion it’s a statistical one. 

I’m actually more closely aligned with labour in my belief that the WINZ system sucks - it needs to be way simpler with the stigma of receiving a benefit removed. A UBI is an interesting idea that I’m tentatively in favour of. I think benefits should be easier to get - of course a minority will take advantage and just take the benefit without ever trying to seek work, but you get that now anyway and I think that just needs to be accepted as a cost of having a system that actually helps people rather than one that stigmatises them. 

But good job assuming my beliefs based on nothing. 

As I said, you can be unemployed and not on a benefit. Or you can be in a benefit and be employed. 

As to whether you would’ve been part of the unemployed % - you would have as long as you were looking for a job. An example of being unemployed and not being eligible for a benefit (and it’s also an example of natural unemployment, so thanks for that)

I don’t really know how many more ways I can explain this or what other information I can provide you to help you understand. So I think I’ll just leave it there for now. 

Unknown editor edited November 18, 2017 04:33

Maybe read the link before making a fool of yourself. Not sure why you’re calling me a young Nat, this isn’t even a political discussion it’s a statistical one. I’m actually more closely aligned with labour in my belief that the WINZ system sucks - it needs to be way simpler with the stigma of receiving a benefit removed. A UBI is an interesting idea that I’m tentatively in favour of. I think benefits should be easier to get - of course a minority will take advantage and just take the benefit without ever trying to seek work, but you get that now anyway and I think that just needs to be accepted as a cost of having a system that actually helps people rather than one that stigmatises them. 

But good job assuming my beliefs based on nothing. 

As I said, you can be unemployed and not on a benefit. Or you can be in a benefit and be employed. 

As to whether you would’ve been part of the unemployed % - you would have as long as you were looking for a job. An example of being unemployed and not being eligible for a benefit (and it’s also an example of natural unemployment, so thanks for that)

I don’t really know how many more ways I can explain this or what other information I can provide you to help you understand. So I think I’ll just leave it there for now. 

Unknown editor edited November 18, 2017 04:33

Maybe read the link before making a fool of yourself. 

As I said, you can be unemployed and not on a benefit. Or you can be in a benefit and be employed. 

As to whether you would’ve been part of the unemployed % - you would have as long as you were looking for a job. An example of being unemployed and not being eligible for a benefit (and it’s also an example of natural unemployment, so thanks for that)

I don’t really know how many more ways I can explain this or what other information I can provide you to help you understand. So I think I’ll just leave it there for now.