Please, show me the evidence. I'm very interested.
If this is a pointless discussion, why did you enter it in the first place, and why did you only claim it to be pointless now?
A quick google shows plenty of articles for and against, I'm going to find a for one and post it and you're going to find an against one and post it.
I think you'll find I didn't post that this debate was pointless now, I posted that comment five days ago after people were simply quoting what they chose from articles and also my comments and completely loosing context. There have been several debates on the same lines and they all end up in the same way.
I actually feel sorry for people who are so stuck in the old ways, there's been a lot of change over the last fifty years but that's nothing compared to what's coming.