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Posted April 05, 2018 08:54 · last edited April 05, 2018 08:54

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Ryan wrote:

As I said "But even then in the last 25 years extreme poverty has fallen from 50% to 10%"

There is technological progress, there is progress of peace, and there is also humanitarian progress. A smaller percentage of people are starving than ever before.

I like globalisation because it has prevented us from having major wars. Nationalism breeds conventional war, if we get rid of borders then we don't fight on the same scale. It's no coincidence that Europe was in a state of perpetual war before globalisation started in earnest in 1947 and has had it's most peaceful period since then.


Corporations were using slave and cheap labour long before globalisation.

Where did you get these figures for "extreme poverty"?

Sorry but I have some bad news for you: since the end of WW2 the world has been constantly at war in various locations around the globe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_1945%E2...

Actually it is borders that help stop wars. without borders people will go where ever, whenever....and there will ultiamtely be fight over resources. How do you think its going to work out when one million people from Bangladesh decide they want to go live somewhere better in India for example?

Not only that but there will be conflicts between the home culture and the "invading" one...as we see going on right now. Germany opened its borders up to over one million undocumented migrants and look how thats working out for them: crime has gone through the roof, murders, terror attacks, the works.

So because corporations have always been using slave labour it is OK for them to keep doing so under globalisation?

How do sleep at night knowing you support slavery every time you buy from a corporation?

Did you not read the part where I said Europe, countries without borders don't fight each other.

"Did you not read"

Oh ryan you really are such a plonker some times

Do you not remember the Balkin War? Maybe you're too young ;-) Horrific conflict.

Then Naton Bombed Serbia

And of course there was a civil war in Ukraine just other year...funded and supported by Nato.

Thank you for proving my point.

Those countries were highly nationalistic and were not part of the EU trading block.

haha you're always moving the goal posts

Face it mate you are all over the shop.

One minute you say women need priority treatment next minute you say people are all individuals.

Make your mind up cos you want to have your cake and eat it too. Are people individuals or not?

That genuinely made me chuckle. I can see the confusion, I thought by context of me talking about trading blocks and no borders in Europe that you would take my meaning to be Europe. I forget that I have to spell things out.

As I said about the Caroline thing, I would love to be in a world which is fair and we don't need quotas, but since it's not we need to do something. Quotas are probably a bad idea but they're better than the alternative of not having them.

I have no problem being a hypocrite as long as it makes the world better.

At last Ryan confesses that he is aware he makes no sense.

I rest my case.

Whatever, the world doesn't work without compromise and a pragmatist view.


The funny thing is that I can admit where the practical realities of dealing with a situation differ from how I'd like to the world to be. Admitting to that and knowing that leads to much more coherent and consistent arguments than most of what I see.

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Whatever, the world doesn't work without compromise and a pragmatist view.


The funny thing is that I can admit where the practical realities of dealing with a situation differ from how I'd like to the world to be. Admitting to that and knowing that leads to much more coherent and consistent arguments than most of what I see.