History for Ryan

If you're buying from a freight forwarding service then you're bypassing where a retailer want's to send the goods and it's your own problem not the retailers if you're paying double tax, I wouldn't be surprised if you can claim back that tax in a lot of jurisdictions anyway. If a retailer sells into NZ legitimately then they should abide by NZ rules, the cost of retail in NZ includes the baked in prices for the Consumer Guarantees act, GST, etc. so NZ retailers are not competing on an equal playing field with overseas retailers, and NZ consumers are not as protected. When NZ retail dies, as retail is dying all over the world, then that employment is lost, and that tax revenue is lost. And it needs to be made back somehow.

If you use a freight forwarding service then that's your problem, but if you're buying legitimately from a retailer that ships and sells to NZ then they should abide by our laws and pay our taxes.

I realise that it's ironic that I'm arguing for this when I also say that eventually we will be without borders and have a gradual loss of sovereignty but I don't neccersarily think what I think will happen are good things, or will be good, just inevitable. And, we have to make the current system work somehow, and keep up that tax revenue because when retail fails we're going to have a lot of unemployed people.

If you're buying from a freight forwarding service then you're bypassing where a retailer want's to send the goods and it's your own problem not the retailers if you're paying double tax, I wouldn't be surprised if you can claim back that tax in a lot of jurisdictions anyway. If a retailer sells into NZ legitimately then they should abide by NZ rules, the cost of retail in NZ includes the baked in prices for the Consumer Guarantees act, GST, etc. so NZ retailers are not competing on an equal playing field with overseas retailers, and NZ consumers are not as protected. When NZ retail dies, as retail is dying all over the world, then that employment is lost, and that tax revenue is lost. And it needs to be made back somehow.

If you use a freight forwarding service then that's your problem, but if you're buying legitimately from a retailer that ships and sells to NZ then they should abide by our laws.

I realise that it's ironic that I'm arguing for this when I also say that eventually we will be without borders and have a gradual loss of sovereignty but I don't neccersarily think what I think will happen are good things, or will be good, just inevitable. And, we have to make the current system work somehow, and keep up that tax revenue because when retail fails we're going to have a lot of unemployed people.

If you're buying from a freight forwarding service then you're bypassing where a retailer want's to send the goods and it's your own problem not the retailers if you're paying double tax. If a retailer sells into NZ then they should abide by NZ rules, the cost of retail in NZ includes the baked in prices for the Consumer Guarantees act, GST, etc. so NZ retailers are not competing on an equal playing field with overseas retailers, and NZ consumers are not as protected. When NZ retail dies, as retail is dying all over the world, then that employment is lost, and that tax revenue is lost. And it needs to be made back somehow.

If you use a freight forwarding service then that's your problem, but if you're buying legitimately from a retailer that ships and sells to NZ then they should abide by our laws.

I realise that it's ironic that I'm arguing for this when I also say that eventually we will be without borders and have a gradual loss of sovereignty but I don't neccersarily think what I think will happen are good things, or will be good, just inevitable. And, we have to make the current system work somehow, and keep up that tax revenue because when retail fails we're going to have a lot of unemployed people.