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Posted May 24, 2018 23:57 · last edited May 25, 2018 00:07

paulm wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

"Saskia Rushton-Green, the freelance illustrator who designed the cover image of the gender-neutral person menstruating"



How can someone with a menstruating vagina be gender neutral? surely their physical gender is female. what gender they identify as is a separate issue?

Sex and gender are different things. Sex is what bits you have, gender is whether you are male/female/neutral/other. 

So gender is just a made up thing?

Most things are. 

People often get confused between the two (sex and gender) because they overlap so much for the most part. Generally speaking people of a male sex identify as a male and do what society deems to be male activities and behaviours. But that’s not always the case. 

There probably needs to be new words for gender other than male or female? Or maybe it’s something that doesn’t need to be labelled at all? 

Even people who think they’re fighting for trans rights (usually on the internet) get confused between the two. The kind of people who get outraged that there are only male/female options a medical form - failing to grasp the concept that clearly a doctor would be enquiring about a patients physical sex, rather than their gender. 

Opening a can of worms that I’ll regret. But male/female sport is also interesting. Surely that’s divided that way generally because of physical attributes. Which would mean divided by sex rather than gender. But you see a fair few people calling for (and some sports accepting) people of a male sex to compete in female sports because their gender is female. I’m not sure that’s how it should be. But then I haven’t actually read into those cases very much, so am open to being wrong. 

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paulm wrote:
patrick478 wrote:
Christchurch Rangers wrote:
ForteanTimes wrote:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/23/otag...

Why is this even a thing? 

"Saskia Rushton-Green, the freelance illustrator who designed the cover image of the gender-neutral person menstruating"



How can someone with a menstruating vagina be gender neutral? surely their physical gender is female. what gender they identify as is a separate issue?

Sex and gender are different things. Sex is what bits you have, gender is whether you are male/female/neutral/other. 

So gender is just a made up thing?

Most things are. 

People often get confused between the two (sex and gender) because they overlap so much for the most part. Generally speaking people of a male sex identify as a male and do what society deems to be male activities and behaviours. But that’s not always the case. 

There probably needs to be new words for gender other than male or female? Or maybe it’s something that doesn’t need to be labelled at all? 

Even people who think they’re fighting for trans rights (usually on the internet) get confused between the two. The kind of people who get outraged that there are only male/female options a medical form - failing to grasp the concept that clearly a doctor would be enquiring about a patients physical sex, rather than their gender. 

Unknown editor edited May 25, 2018 00:03
paulm wrote:
patrick478 wrote:
Christchurch Rangers wrote:
ForteanTimes wrote:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/23/otag...

Why is this even a thing? 

"Saskia Rushton-Green, the freelance illustrator who designed the cover image of the gender-neutral person menstruating"



How can someone with a menstruating vagina be gender neutral? surely their physical gender is female. what gender they identify as is a separate issue?

Sex and gender are different things. Sex is what bits you have, gender is whether you are male/female/neutral/other. 

So gender is just a made up thing?

Most things are.