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Truck protest.

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Truck protest.
Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
20/5/20

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http://www.rtfnz.co.nz/catalog/Protest_Action953.doc - Truckers view.
 
Interesting....  as I saw quoted elsewhere -
Give me a break. The road user charges are just the excuse; the protest is the objective. Tony Friedlander, head of the Road Transport Forum, former National Minister, secret major National donor, and star of the Hollow Men is behind the protest. He told Transport Minister Annette King the protest would be happening weeks ago, before the road user charge changes were announced.

This has nothing to with with a 1% increase in trucking costs, it is simply an attempt to make the Government look bad - a long-planned hollow attack from a core National backer.

If, IF, they come out in the numbers predicted it should make the "rush" hour interesting....
dairyflat2008-07-03 18:25:12
Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
20/5/20

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I see that the" Dentist" King has come out in defiance and said, it's been 19 years since the truck industry has been made to pay  more. That doesn't mean its right for Gods sake. Oh well come next elections she can go back to dentistry.
 
Frankly, I hope every garbage truck in Wellington parks up at Parliament and lets them all enjoy a familiar smell - They all trash in there, every party!
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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dairyflat wrote:
http://www.rtfnz.co.nz/catalog/Protest_Action953.doc - Truckers view.
 
Interesting....  as I saw quoted elsewhere -
Give me a break. The road user charges are just the excuse; the protest is the objective. Tony Friedlander, head of the Road Transport Forum, former National Minister, secret major National donor, and star of the Hollow Men is behind the protest. He told Transport Minister Annette King the protest would be happening weeks ago, before the road user charge changes were announced.

This has nothing to with with a 1% increase in trucking costs, it is simply an attempt to make the Government look bad - a long-planned hollow attack from a core National backer.

If, IF, they come out in the numbers predicted it should make the "rush" hour interesting....
they'll be there don't worry about that.

Without Trucks N.Z stops .
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Word I heard this evening is a lot of politicians leaving town tonight to avoid being shown up.
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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If they block all the car parks outside parliament tomorrow, i will personally go out and let down all 500 of their tires.
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You could take out a few nibble and handles to them and make some truckie friends for life! You could turn a few dollars over mate!
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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giddyup wrote:
Without Trucks N.Z stops .


NZ worked fine before the late seventies (I think) law changes that allowed tricks competitive long-haul access against Rail.  Re-Open rail lines and restrict road HT use and road maintenance costs decrease hugely, our Oil use decreases hugely, and we get a quality rail network.

Just a concept.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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Hard News wrote:

giddyup wrote:
Without Trucks N.Z stops .
NZ worked fine before the late seventies (I think) law changes that allowed tricks competitive long-haul access against Rail.� Re-Open rail lines and restrict road HT use and road maintenance costs decrease hugely, our Oil use decreases hugely, and we get a quality rail network.Just a concept.

dont be so logical hn. i think its irresponsible personally, sure i understand the anger and the right to protest but rush our in the major citites.... its a bit irresponsible i think. i heard today that in Aus the Qantas engineers that are on strike are going back to work for the world youth day because they dont want to disrupt the public at large, would be nice to see the truckies in nz thinking about the wider community

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Hard News wrote:
giddyup wrote:
Without Trucks N.Z stops .


NZ worked fine before the late seventies (I think) law changes that allowed tricks competitive long-haul access against Rail.  Re-Open rail lines and restrict road HT use and road maintenance costs decrease hugely, our Oil use decreases hugely, and we get a quality rail network.

Just a concept.
you still need to get freight from the rail to the shops, i mean you can't take 10 ton of potatoes on the #17  bus, plus not all of new zealand has rail access.

and hey ubber some of those guys whose tyres you want to let down, are the same guys who ship your beer from the brewery to you, in one way or another.


without trucks N.Z stops 

see you guys at the game tomorrow

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As I said... long haul.

The size of truck required (and therefore the wear on the roads) for a short haul is different to the units used on national long haul.  They are more fuel efficient, they are lighter, and they are smaller.

As for NZ stops, you are making it awfully tempting for me to flag working from home in the morning and just catching a train, purely to prove a point.
Hard News2008-07-03 20:14:54

How's my driving? - Whine here

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Hard News wrote:
As I said... long haul.

The size of truck required (and therefore the wear on the roads) for a short haul is different to the units used on national long haul.  They are more fuel efficient, they are lighter, and they are smaller.
most of your big rigs are as well,most trucks now have to comply with E.U specs in terms of emissions and fuel economy.Lighter and smaller also means more trips for the same amount of weight a 44 ton truck could've done in one hit

moving freight all onto rail is a very green thing to do, but we can't wait four days for the rail to turn up with our freight, we need it to leave auckland tonight and have it in wellington early tomorrow morning not tuesday next week.


if the government actually invested the r.u.c's into maintaining and upgrading the roads rather than pouring into the government "slush"
We could've had some pretty nice roading  infrastructure by now (imo)





giddyup2008-07-03 20:24:17
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are you in bed with the truckies?
I like tautologies because I like them.
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not so much in bed,but it's the industry i've been involved in or around most of my life, so i guess i'm seeing more from their perspective.

this by the way is apparently the routes the trucks will take i really don't know how many there will be to be honest but you may want to avoid...

Around 200 trucks are expected in Wellington's central streets. Two convoys will set off from Paekakariki and Seaview at 7am and make their way into Wellington. The trucks will come through the Terrace Tunnel, and along city streets including Lambton Quay and up Molesworth St, past Parliament.
giddyup2008-07-03 21:45:05
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AH HA!!
I like tautologies because I like them.
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ah ha  what ??


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smoochie smoochie! [just ignore me]
Cosimo2008-07-03 21:51:20
I like tautologies because I like them.
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I'm "working" tomorrow. Should be a great day.
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At the end of the day the truckers wont be out of pocket because they are in the same position us hospo types. Every year on the 1st of July we get an increase in excise tax on all alcoholic products, this varies between 5-8 percent. so heres the rub. If the truckers have to pay more tax, they will make their customers cover it (which is quite legitimate) those costs are passed onto retailers (as you mentioned we get our stock delivered on trucks) the Brewery cant absorb your cost increases, the price of hops going up by about 40% in some cases, petrol/diesel price hikes, the cost of bottle/glass manufacture going up. all these prices increases get passed on to us, yet when we put our beer prices up 5% somehow the publicans are the villains. I reprogrammed all our cash registers with the new pricing early this week and the amount of grief we have been getting form people saying  "the country is in a recession" "your just trying to gouge your customers" (we wore the increases last year and didn't change our prices).
The point is truckers get tax/cost  increases like most other industries , yet somehow you think you are justified in disrupting everyone else's day to get your point across,when those costs will get passed onto the people who's day you are stuffing up .
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/rant

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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sorry, i hadnt had my morning shot of arabica gold.
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Chase it with some China White and you'll chill right the f**k out.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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Came into work on the train  and it looks like Auckland's in for a fun morning. Trucks everywhere!

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Lonegunmen wrote:
Word I heard this evening is a lot of politicians leaving town tonight to avoid being shown up.
 
They are leaving because it's the end of the session.
Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
20/5/20

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The trucks starting to pour in.yomcat2008-07-04 08:28:20
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A little while later...
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I still haven't seen Santa

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These are all round town...
Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
20/5/20

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A beautiful chorus of horns coming from Vivian Street at the moment.
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It's about time ordinary New Zealanders made a stand against politicians (regardless of the party in power).
 
After all they are meant to be doing what is best for this country and its people. Anyone who watches question time on TV has to be left wondering what planet politicians actually think they are on.
 
Or have they all been smoking some of Nandoors best gold??
 
Good on the truckies for making a stand. At least they are showing some form and not laying down with their legs in the air.
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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Seconded.
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Lonegunmen wrote:
It's about time ordinary New Zealanders made a stand against politicians (regardless of the party in power).
 
After all they are meant to be doing what is best for this country and its people. Anyone who watches question time on TV has to be left wondering what planet politicians actually think they are on.
 
Or have they all been smoking some of Nandoors best gold??
 
Good on the truckies for making a stand. At least they are showing some form and not laying down with their legs in the air.
 
I didn't realise you where an anarchist LG
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Lonegunmen wrote:
It's about time ordinary New Zealanders made a stand against politicians (regardless of the party in power).
 
After all they are meant to be doing what is best for this country and its people. Anyone who watches question time on TV has to be left wondering what planet politicians actually think they are on.
 
Or have they all been smoking some of Nandoors best gold??
 
Good on the truckies for making a stand. At least they are showing some form and not laying down with their legs in the air.
 
    Don't even want to go there......

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Those f**king sh*thouse horns are driving me f**king nuts, i cant even hear the person sitting 6 feet away from me.
ARGHHHH
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and here... 
Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
20/5/20

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Lonegunmen wrote:
 
Good on the truckies for making a stand. At least they are showing some form and not laying down with their legs in the air.
 
What stand? If they get their way it's you and me who'll be paying for their road use.
Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
20/5/20

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UberGunner wrote:
Those f**king sh*thouse horns are driving me f**king nuts, i cant even hear the person sitting 6 feet away from me.
ARGHHHH

Ah, the joy of working in Kilbirnie

though considering how close you are to Parliament, your attitude is understandable.
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I have to shout down the phone line to be heard over these guys, and its still going.
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Noise pollution should be a criminal offence....
 
Funniest thing i saw while walking to work on Taranaki Street-a women in a car with a cell phone and a black poodle on her lap beeping at the blokes in solidarity- Hilarious!
 
 

Salmon swim upstream

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I didn't hear the truckie complain last month when the minister increased the wieght load that truckies could carry.
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