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How is going on talkback much different to doing it on the internet? It's not like you're talking to Veitch himself. I also doubt Veitch would be listening or they're giving him the phone numbers of the people who ring up, being Tony from Tawa is hardly less secret than having an internet pseudonym.
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Someone rang up saying he should be the face of family violence campiagn like John Kirwan. Are you kidding me. He paid her to keep quiet. Not exactly the ideal way to face what you have done. 2ndBest2008-07-10 10:13:58
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Saw a great Tui billboard on my way to work this morning:
"Here's $100K, Keep it quiet. Yeah Right" 
Didn't take them long!
Didn't take them long!Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
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I hear it was a co worker of hers at a previous job that spilt the beans. They found out before she was paid to keep quiet.
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yeah the massive brusie's and the wheelchair where a bit of a clue.
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is it just me or is it crazy that so many people think he should keep his job. He should def lose his TVNZ since it is publicially owned.
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It underlines the lack of talent in the country if both TVNZ and Radiosport think they need to protect Vietch after knowing for so long what he did. How can he be so important that he can get away with it, or that he should keep his job? People with more talent are a dime a dozen, so why hang on to him? Did he threaten the bosses with the bash (around the ankles)?
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But Veitchy's so zany, funny, and quirky.
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And I thought only All Blacks could get off with light punishments for any unlawful activities.
Still this could be a chance for Jason Gunn or Simon Barnett to appear on yet another TV show. Or even the Leishman Brothers yet again??
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But Veitchy's so zany, funny, and quirky.
Clearly. Probably laughing and joking when he was kicking 
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Saw a great Tui billboard on my way to work this morning:
"Here's $100K, Keep it quiet. Yeah Right" Didn't take them long!
Didn't take them long!photo in there of sign.
ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH
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Tony Veitch suspended from Radio Sport
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The Radio Network has suspended Tony Veitch after claims of assault
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Looks like he's going to be a headine again on Three tonight...
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Frankly, he should be in jail, let alone lose his job.
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Jail ,maybe if he is investigated by the police,convicted and sentenced to jail then fine. right now he's been convicted only by the court of public opinion. I certainly don't condone what he did,that's a fact.I just don't think he should lose his job.
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I probably phrased things a bit wrong but I'd have to agree with you, you can't be sacked for just being investigated by police though he did admit he has committed what is a crime. It's a tricky situation.
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I dont think he should lose his job unless he is convicted as i believe everyone should get a second chance. At the moment he has been convicted only in a court of public opinion being driven by the media (in particular tv3 and the dom). I think some of the Doms initial coverage was very poor, reporting about efforts to sell the house and how much rent they were getting and his wifes financial position. Poor journalism and needless for my mind. Interesting to see how far tv3 take it, i think if they continue to hammer it people might become a bit cynical.
Eventually a lot of people, and i can sense it already in discussions im hearing and having with different people, will begin to discuss the coverage of the story rather than the story itself.
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um, people lose their jobs all the time for A LOT less than beating a woman FFS if he was a cleaner than no one would give a damn if he lost his job...
Cosimo2008-07-10 21:59:45
I like tautologies because I like them.
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I dont think he should lose his job unless he is convicted as i believe everyone should get a second chance. At the moment he has been convicted only in a court of public opinion being driven by the media (in particular tv3 and the dom). I think some of the Doms initial coverage was very poor, reporting about efforts to sell the house and how much rent they were getting and his wifes financial position. Poor journalism and needless for my mind. Interesting to see how far tv3 take it, i think if they continue to hammer it people might become a bit cynical.
Eventually a lot of people, and i can sense it already in discussions im hearing and having with different people, will begin to discuss the coverage of the story rather than the story itself.
what?? your point being? you're blaming the fact that he is convicted in a "court of public opinion", yet you're worried that people might become a bit cynical in their public opinion? i don't know what you are getting at - that is one big contradiction
Cosimo2008-07-10 22:08:38
I like tautologies because I like them.
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The Veitch Code !
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This case has a little more than "allegations". He has admitted "lashing out in anger" and the level of injury was quite serious (there have been no denials on what has been reported).
On that basis, I don't see that anyone in such a public position could retain their job.
I agree that there has been some pretty poor reporting going on though.
The real point though, is that he should have been fired long ago because of his put-downs and patronising attitude towards the Phoenix. Open and shut case!
I know, I know, its serious!
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um, people lose their jobs all the time for A LOT less than beating a woman FFS if he was a cleaner than no one would give a damn if he lost his job...
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um, people lose their jobs all the time for A LOT less than beating a woman FFS if he was a cleaner than no one would give a damn if he lost his job...
awesome
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I'm sure he has a clause in his contract that he can be fired or disclipned for bring the company into disrepute.
Yes i am all for 2nd chances but only when people own up to what they did, show true regret and take step to change their behaviour. YEs he has done councilling, but he paid hush money to keep it all undercover.
If he admitted when it happened, taken this community serivce sentence and got councilling then thats a different story.
I suspect he will lose both his jobs but will probably get a nice gold handshake on the way out.
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Matthew Ridge says Tony Veitch's assault of a former partner is despicable and he may not want to appear on Game of Two Halves with him.
Ridge, who appears on the sports quiz show alongside Veitch, said the assault on Kristin Dunne-Powell sounded "pretty horrific" and inexcusable.
"It's despicable. I've never been one to condone violence, especially violence against women.
"In my book it's a no-no."
He would not comment on Veitch's prospects, saying that was up to TVNZ, but admitted he would have to think twice about appearing on the show if Veitch returned.
Pressure is mounting on Veitch's employers as police launch an investigation into the assault on Ms Dunne-Powell and sponsors threaten to pull advertising. The Radio Network suspended Veitch from Radio Sport yesterday, hiring an employment lawyer as it started an investigation.
TVNZ chief executive Rick Ellis said yesterday that he would answer "appropriate questions" as soon as possible. He did confirm he knew Ms Dunne-Powell, a former TVNZ marketing manager, who later worked as an executive for Vodafone when Mr Ellis' daughter was employed there.
But a TVNZ spokeswoman said there was no conflict of interest. She said Mr Ellis had been unaware of Ms Dunne-Powell's and Veitch's relationship till Monday.
Veitch stood down on Tuesday, after The Dominion Post revealed he kicked Ms Dunne-Powell, breaking her back in four places, and later paid more than $100,000 in a confidentiality agreement. On Wednesday he admitted the attack and issued an apology.
Government ministers refused to comment yesterday, but the prime minister's office is understood to be appalled.
Three senior TVNZ executives are conducting a review of Veitch's situation. It is understood to cover issues including who knew what within TVNZ - a matter which raises questions around the "no surprises" convention that operates between ministers and crown-owned companies.
A detective has been assigned to look into the allegations of historical assault, including examining the statement delivered by Veitch. Police have not received a formal complaint, but some legal experts say Veitch's public admission could be grounds for them at least to issue search warrants.
Radio Sport advertisers, including Nufarm and Nature Bee, said they would review support for the network if Veitch was allowed to remain on air.
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I dont think he should lose his job unless he is convicted as i believe everyone should get a second chance. At the moment he has been convicted only in a court of public opinion being driven by the media (in particular tv3 and the dom). I think some of the Doms initial coverage was very poor, reporting about efforts to sell the house and how much rent they were getting and his wifes financial position. Poor journalism and needless for my mind. Interesting to see how far tv3 take it, i think if they continue to hammer it people might become a bit cynical.
what?? your point being? you're blaming the fact that he is convicted in a "court of public opinion", yet you're worried that people might become a bit cynical in their public opinion? i don't know what you are getting at - that is one big contradiction
Eventually a lot of people, and i can sense it already in discussions im hearing and having with different people, will begin to discuss the coverage of the story rather than the story itself.
that use of cynical was perhaps wrong, my point was that people are/will become cynical as to the motives of tv3 in pushing the story. seperate issue to them forming a judgement on what he did. the basic thought process i would have thought being ok he did it, hes admitted it, its wrong, now lets move on. but tv3 and the dom(yet to read todays dom) push the story for motives that to be fair are less than pure.
derek fox has admitted assaulting his partner but it hasnt been on the front page or leading the news for the last week and you could say that as he is running for parliament and has a very good chance of getting in he should be held to account more than vietch.
i think all of this illustrates sadly a discussion had on here last week about the priorities of the media, this is a story but i dont think its the lead story for a week, unless your trying to score points at the expense of other organisations
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I dont think he should lose his job unless he is convicted as i believe everyone should get a second chance. At the moment he has been convicted only in a court of public opinion being driven by the media (in particular tv3 and the dom). I think some of the Doms initial coverage was very poor, reporting about efforts to sell the house and how much rent they were getting and his wifes financial position. Poor journalism and needless for my mind. Interesting to see how far tv3 take it, i think if they continue to hammer it people might become a bit cynical.
what?? your point being? you're blaming the fact that he is convicted in a "court of public opinion", yet you're worried that people might become a bit cynical in their public opinion? i don't know what you are getting at - that is one big contradiction
Eventually a lot of people, and i can sense it already in discussions im hearing and having with different people, will begin to discuss the coverage of the story rather than the story itself.
that use of cynical was perhaps wrong, my point was that people are/will become cynical as to the motives of tv3 in pushing the story. seperate issue to them forming a judgement on what he did. the basic thought process i would have thought being ok he did it, hes admitted it, its wrong, now lets move on. but tv3 and the dom(yet to read todays dom) push the story for motives that to be fair are less than pure.
derek fox has admitted assaulting his partner but it hasnt been on the front page or leading the news for the last week and you could say that as he is running for parliament and has a very good chance of getting in he should be held to account more than vietch.
i think all of this illustrates sadly a discussion had on here last week about the priorities of the media, this is a story but i dont think its the lead story for a week, unless your trying to score points at the expense of other organisations
and mathew ridge! seriously, while i cant put my finger on something as bad as this that hes done, im sure he has done some pretty stupid sh*t
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There's a real growing culture of sl*gging off and one-upsmanship in the media, it's especially evident with politicians who can't even seem to actually be bothered listening to anything another party has to say. This is a case of media organisations trying to beat up on their rivals, TV3 seem to be getting good at it, this week they've sl*gged prime and then spent the rest of the week going at TV1!
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What is happening with him and TV1?
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Though neither organisation will say it, I think he's basically suspended from both jobs until the police decide whether to press charges or not.
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People say (well Bopman anyway) that he should get a second chance.
My understanding of 'second chance' is for crims that had done their time and on release were fully repentant and society should give then a 'second chance' to re-integrate into society.
I don't think a second chance should be offered to someone who has yet to face the full consequences of their actions, tried to hush it up with a bribe and says everything is ok now cos he done a bit of counselling.
On a slightly different note, have anyone else noticed that the MSD adverts about not tolerating domestic violence are now on in almost every ad break!
My understanding of 'second chance' is for crims that had done their time and on release were fully repentant and society should give then a 'second chance' to re-integrate into society.
I don't think a second chance should be offered to someone who has yet to face the full consequences of their actions, tried to hush it up with a bribe and says everything is ok now cos he done a bit of counselling.
On a slightly different note, have anyone else noticed that the MSD adverts about not tolerating domestic violence are now on in almost every ad break!
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I dont think he should lose his job unless he is convicted as i believe everyone should get a second chance. At the moment he has been convicted only in a court of public opinion being driven by the media (in particular tv3 and the dom). I think some of the Doms initial coverage was very poor, reporting about efforts to sell the house and how much rent they were getting and his wifes financial position. Poor journalism and needless for my mind. Interesting to see how far tv3 take it, i think if they continue to hammer it people might become a bit cynical.
what?? your point being? you're blaming the fact that he is convicted in a "court of public opinion", yet you're worried that people might become a bit cynical in their public opinion? i don't know what you are getting at - that is one big contradiction
Eventually a lot of people, and i can sense it already in discussions im hearing and having with different people, will begin to discuss the coverage of the story rather than the story itself.
that use of cynical was perhaps wrong, my point was that people are/will become cynical as to the motives of tv3 in pushing the story. seperate issue to them forming a judgement on what he did. the basic thought process i would have thought being ok he did it, hes admitted it, its wrong, now lets move on. but tv3 and the dom(yet to read todays dom) push the story for motives that to be fair are less than pure.
derek fox has admitted assaulting his partner but it hasnt been on the front page or leading the news for the last week and you could say that as he is running for parliament and has a very good chance of getting in he should be held to account more than vietch.
i think all of this illustrates sadly a discussion had on here last week about the priorities of the media, this is a story but i dont think its the lead story for a week, unless your trying to score points at the expense of other organisations
and mathew ridge! seriously, while i cant put my finger on something as bad as this that hes done, im sure he has done some pretty stupid sh*t
Given the company he keeps, (convicted drug dealer, wifebeater), I wouldnt be too surprised if there aren't a few skeletons in his closet.
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I'm sure he has a clause in his contract that he can be fired or disclipned for bring the company into disrepute.
Yes i am all for 2nd chances but only when people own up to what they did, show true regret and take step to change their behaviour. YEs he has done councilling, but he paid hush money to keep it all undercover.
If he admitted when it happened, taken this community serivce sentence and got councilling then thats a different story.
I suspect he will lose both his jobs but will probably get a nice gold handshake on the way out.
Pretty much how I feel. I still don't think men shold hit women, it's easier to just walk away and cool down. In paying her off and trying to keep it quiet, Veitch unwittingly created a monster far bigger than anything if he had come clean and owned up when it happened. Silence isn't always golden.
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Surely he's got to be sacked. A high profile public figure cannot abuse their partner and not face consequences.
Plus I just don't like him.
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