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Blew.2 wrote:

1/4 Final Fixtures

Only 2 games posted as set so far as on 22/7/16

$260.00 down on 7th August and $170.00 back per player for Miramar on AirNZ

Jetstar and AirNZ cant do Saturday 6th by the looks.

Nth Wgtn $89.00 to Auckland and last flight leaves at 6pm back at $190.00 on the 6th

Just get Harris, Jackson, Bevan et al to play pro bono

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Drunk_Monk wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

I find a huge fudgeing amount of irony in the fact that as much as people here think they MUST be right because that is what they saw, there is no possible way that the ref can be right based on what he saw.

I reckon there could be a whole bunch of budding professional snooker players in here because even from such a distance and an obscured angle with things in the way, they nail it every time.

What an absurd comment.  Of course people believe what they see.

Are you saying its impossible for a ref to get a call wrong and a spectator closer to the event and at a better angle possibly see it be right?  If so that's a stupid thing to say.

And most importantly you are saying its ironic that people believe what they see.  So you never believe anything you see in case you are wrong?  Life must suck being so indecisive that you can't even trust your eyes.  Yea sometimes your eyes deceive you, but I personally don't believe everything I see is wrong, and find the only way to get by is to assume what I see is right until proven otherwise.

Just remember going forward any time you think a ref got a call wrong that you could be wrong.  because irrespective of any camera angles you are only seeing it and as above the ref saw what they saw and it would be ironic for you to believe what you see over what the ref saw.

*Whoosh* That was the sound of my point going completely over your head and you missing it.

The point I was making is that there are spectators around a field that will slag off a ref and say he is completely wrong even though they are further away from the event with an obscure angle and no real idea about laws of the game (other than anything that hits a hand must be a handball and every other throw must be a foul throw), vs the ref who is closer, will have a better angle and knows the laws. Thats not to say that refs wont make mistakes but on balance of probability, the ref is going to be right more often than the spectator.

THAT was the point I was making. Nothing to do with cameras or doubting your eyes or anything else you chose to inject there.

As a final point to further illustrate my point, just cause you looked at the dress and think it is white and gold based on what you actually saw, does not mean it is actually is. There are people out there that will still go 'Its white and gold!' even after the designer confirmed it is blue and black

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Feverish wrote:

Blew.2 wrote:

1/4 Final Fixtures

Only 2 games posted as set so far as on 22/7/16

$260.00 down on 7th August and $170.00 back per player for Miramar on AirNZ

Jetstar and AirNZ cant do Saturday 6th by the looks.

Nth Wgtn $89.00 to Auckland and last flight leaves at 6pm back at $190.00 on the 6th

Just get Harris, Jackson, Bevan et al to play pro bono

The club would have to many pies left over (bought in bulk, pre season)
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North Wellington lost 6-1 to 3 Kings. Miramar leading 4-2 with 10 minutes to go.

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Miramar probably deserved their win but the referee had a nightmare. Seemed to be trying too hard not to be biased as he was from Christchurch but went too far the other way.

Tech one nil up but then conceded two in quick succession. One of them should have been chalked off for an earlier foul. Then Miramar were awarded a very soft penalty right on halftime.

Then early in the second half Michael White got himself sent off with the help of the whole Miramar team mobbing the ref demanding a second yellow. It was a fair enough call but the sight of the whole team doing high fives after the sending off suggested a plan to wind up White had been successful.

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Hawki wrote:

Miramar probably deserved their win but the referee had a nightmare. Seemed to be trying too hard not to be biased as he was from Christchurch but went too far the other way.

Tech one nil up but then conceded two in quick succession. One of them should have been chalked off for an earlier foul. Then Miramar were awarded a very soft penalty right on halftime.

Then early in the second half Michael White got himself sent off with the help of the whole Miramar team mobbing the ref demanding a second yellow. It was a fair enough call but the sight of the whole team doing high fives after the sending off suggested a plan to wind up White had been successful.

I was not at the game today and I am sure tech will be gracious in defeat but why on earth are there officials from chch refereeing a national   1/4 final it is unfair on everyone involved. 

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Always the ref's fault. 

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Went to Waitak v Cavvy today at the Fred

3-1 to Waitak did not really reflect their dominance.

Cavvys only attacking ploy was the long throw that bought them the lead. After that you couldn.t see them scoring again.

If Cavvy are unbeaten then that is a sad commentary on the quality of their league - they were unable to keep possession at all and didn't look as fit or sharp as Waitak who although they have some quality players are not in the Premier League(next year).

Appears to me that the sooner they get a South Island League the sooner the decline of Otago football will be halted ?

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embarrassing result for North Wellington... Did well to make it that far though

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horseshead21 wrote:

embarrassing result for North Wellington... Did well to make it that far though

sorry but i don't see a nil there so take back that embarrassing comment please .

never was this going to be anything but a tight tense error filled game causing a possible upset to a tried everything but not enough to rattle the favourite into mistakes loss.

and i think a show of commitment with the only NW goal coming when already 5 down when most teams might just shut up shop.

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Hawki wrote:

Miramar probably deserved their win but the referee had a nightmare. Seemed to be trying too hard not to be biased as he was from Christchurch but went too far the other way.

Tech one nil up but then conceded two in quick succession. One of them should have been chalked off for an earlier foul. Then Miramar were awarded a very soft penalty right on halftime.

Then early in the second half Michael White got himself sent off with the help of the whole Miramar team mobbing the ref demanding a second yellow. It was a fair enough call but the sight of the whole team doing high fives after the sending off suggested a plan to wind up White had been successful.

More than happy if White is suspended for Saturday 13th

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horseshead21 wrote:

embarrassing result for North Wellington... Did well to make it that far though

sorry but i don't see a nil there so take back that embarrassing comment please .

never was this going to be anything but a tight tense error filled game causing a possible upset to a tried everything but not enough to rattle the favourite into mistakes loss.

and i think a show of commitment with the only NW goal coming when already 5 down when most teams might just shut up shop.

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what are you on mate? crack?

6-1 is an embarrassment in any football game, you can't honestly turn around and say you gave an honest account if you get done by that many. Get real pal.  And they have been humped by 4 or 5 a few times this year

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also agree with feverish your post makes fudge all sense

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I am drunk and I don't even understand it 

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chubbs wrote:

Went to Waitak v Cavvy today at the Fred

3-1 to Waitak did not really reflect their dominance.

Cavvys only attacking ploy was the long throw that bought them the lead. After that you couldn.t see them scoring again.

If Cavvy are unbeaten then that is a sad commentary on the quality of their league - they were unable to keep possession at all and didn't look as fit or sharp as Waitak who although they have some quality players are not in the Premier League(next year).

Appears to me that the sooner they get a South Island League the sooner the decline of Otago football will be halted ?

Yeah that is what I thought, if they have won there competition.

I wasn't at the game but a friend of mine her son plays for Cavy she said they weren't used to the pitch as it was pretty big. I thought to myself they must be playing on some small pitches down there.

Waitak have Ross Nicholson in goal for them, He looks better now then he did when he used to play. Lean and skinny, hard to believe really. I think this Waitak team could win it tbh.

Am going to Birko vs Forrest hill tomorrow as a neutral supporter - Not sure who I want to win, just want a good game

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NHpeter wrote:

Am going to Birko vs Forrest hill tomorrow as a neutral supporter - Not sure who I want to win, just want a good game

Seems obvious to me.

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All National League officials at Garrick Park today,cant see what all the fuss is about .......... solid game by the men in blue

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horseshead21 wrote:

what are you on mate? crack?

6-1 is an embarrassment in any football game, you can't honestly turn around and say you gave an honest account if you get done by that many. Get real pal.  And they have been humped by 4 or 5 a few times this year

did you think they had chance to match 3kings across the park?

didn't think so unless i underestimate your football knowledge which i feel is pretty good.

so how can a team without the fire power win ?

we have seen it in football many times and that is to upset the game of the higher quality team and have a trick or two that might catch them out.

unfortunately this option can lead to some issues like a run of errors from your own team and a score line that is tilted one way heavily.

We all hate those dragged out defensive games hoping for penalties which is the other option some teams take.

i was not there but a auckland based friend texted me his thoughts and it seemed to him they gave it there all.

so a newly promoted premier team loosing to Aucklands second top team is no surprise and nor is the scoreline.

and i am sure at half time the 3kings staff would of asked for a clean sheet and tops to NW for there goal even if it was of no other significance than too save some pride.

sorry about previous post but hurricane fever in play and everything looked pretty good at the time and felt players didn't deserve to be painted as embarising to wellington football.

if so then all the local teams that lost to them in the cup are as bad?

so please put your knives away until next year then feel free to start sharpening them again but these boys don't deserve to be called an embarrassment even if members of there executive committee are as recent history shows.

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0-0 here at Forrest Hill vs Birko. Birko probably the better team. Not sure why forest hill try and play out from the back. Every time Boyens kicks it long and they loose the ball 

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Buffon II wrote:

NHpeter wrote:

Am going to Birko vs Forrest hill tomorrow as a neutral supporter - Not sure who I want to win, just want a good game

Seems obvious to me.

Where is Godwin? And didn't know Jack was back 

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3-0 in the end, fair reflection of the game IMO. Forest Hill were average, Bale, Dicko and Boyens in particular. Ref was a bit of a side show, comical but didn't really effect anything too significant in terms of the result luckily. Wouldn't be ideal to see that quality of reffing in a close one.
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horseshead21 wrote:

what are you on mate? crack?

6-1 is an embarrassment in any football game, you can't honestly turn around and say you gave an honest account if you get done by that many. Get real pal.  And they have been humped by 4 or 5 a few times this year

did you think they had chance to match 3kings across the park?

didn't think so unless i underestimate your football knowledge which i feel is pretty good.

so how can a team without the fire power win ?

we have seen it in football many times and that is to upset the game of the higher quality team and have a trick or two that might catch them out.

unfortunately this option can lead to some issues like a run of errors from your own team and a score line that is tilted one way heavily.

We all hate those dragged out defensive games hoping for penalties which is the other option some teams take.

i was not there but a auckland based friend texted me his thoughts and it seemed to him they gave it there all.

so a newly promoted premier team loosing to Aucklands second top team is no surprise and nor is the scoreline.

and i am sure at half time the 3kings staff would of asked for a clean sheet and tops to NW for there goal even if it was of no other significance than too save some pride.

sorry about previous post but hurricane fever in play and everything looked pretty good at the time and felt players didn't deserve to be painted as embarising to wellington football.

if so then all the local teams that lost to them in the cup are as bad?

so please put your knives away until next year then feel free to start sharpening them again but these boys don't deserve to be called an embarrassment even if members of there executive committee are as recent history shows.

Have to agree to disagree here mate. If you don't think getting done 6-1 is embarrassing then you have low expectations. Cup football is about playing the way you have to get a reuslt , you're not going to rock up to 3kings and out football them let's be honest but north welly have enough quality players some who have one the Chatham cup, enough experience to have been competitive. If that means conceding 70percent possession and frustrating the opposition , hitting them on the break then so be it. Look at the scenario honestly for a change . Fair play they made the quarter final , but I stand by what I said 6-1 is an embarrassment in any football game. You can't really argue that. And to try and say you're On the score sheet and should be happy about that is cop out .

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TopLeft07 wrote:
3-0 in the end, fair reflection of the game IMO. Forest Hill were average, Bale, Dicko and Boyens in particular. Ref was a bit of a side show, comical but didn't really effect anything too significant in terms of the result luckily. Wouldn't be ideal to see that quality of reffing in a close one.

Boyens is a good athlete loves the long ball though

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Birko 3 FHM 0

Not sure if Birko were 3 goals better but certainly well deserved.

0-0 at HT

Ended 10 a side - Parkinson sent for second yellow at 1-0 . the FHM CB shortly after for last man foul- my first reaction to that one was that the ref was going to book Galbraith for diving.Ref will have a busy night with paperwork - lost count of the cards but probably double figures . most if not all justified.

Poor pitch , windy , cup tie,local derby = not much football played.

Was surprised to see Jack HM  back and also surprised to see him play in CM with Burfoot - thought they may have needed a second ball.

The $1000 man was largely anonymous - if you were to ask a stranger who he thought was a NZ international and possible Phoenix target , then I doubt they would have picked De Vries.

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chubbs wrote:

Birko 3 FHM 0

Not sure if Birko were 3 goals better but certainly well deserved.

0-0 at HT

Ended 10 a side - Parkinson sent for second yellow at 1-0 . the FHM CB shortly after for last man foul- my first reaction to that one was that the ref was going to book Galbraith for diving.Ref will have a busy night with paperwork - lost count of the cards but probably double figures . most if not all justified.

Poor pitch , windy , cup tie,local derby = not much football played.

Was surprised to see Jack HM  back and also surprised to see him play in CM with Burfoot - thought they may have needed a second ball.

The $1000 man was largely anonymous - if you were to ask a stranger who he thought was a NZ international and possible Phoenix target , then I doubt they would have picked De Vries.

Pretty much agree, I didn't think it was last man but I was down the other side of the field.

De Vries was a interesting one, he looked like he wanted to be some where else didn't talk to anyone and just looked like he didn't give a shark. He didn't really have anyone classy enough in the midfield to give him quality ball. Birko much the better side but they missed Godwin up the front. Burfoot best player on the pitch.

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I forgot to mention de vries as another poor player for FHM. He didn't get a lot of service but he also bottles two clear cut chances. The poor pitch also worth mentioning as both teams probably frustrated by it a bit.
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TopLeft07 wrote:
3-0 in the end, fair reflection of the game IMO. Forest Hill were average, Bale, Dicko and Boyens in particular. Ref was a bit of a side show, comical but didn't really effect anything too significant in terms of the result luckily. Wouldn't be ideal to see that quality of reffing in a close one.

didn't think the referee was too bad - both teams were overly pre-occupied with trying to con the referee into giving fouls.

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NHpeter wrote:

chubbs wrote:

Birko 3 FHM 0

Not sure if Birko were 3 goals better but certainly well deserved.

0-0 at HT

Ended 10 a side - Parkinson sent for second yellow at 1-0 . the FHM CB shortly after for last man foul- my first reaction to that one was that the ref was going to book Galbraith for diving.Ref will have a busy night with paperwork - lost count of the cards but probably double figures . most if not all justified.

Poor pitch , windy , cup tie,local derby = not much football played.

Was surprised to see Jack HM  back and also surprised to see him play in CM with Burfoot - thought they may have needed a second ball.

The $1000 man was largely anonymous - if you were to ask a stranger who he thought was a NZ international and possible Phoenix target , then I doubt they would have picked De Vries.

Pretty much agree, I didn't think it was last man but I was down the other side of the field.

De Vries was a interesting one, he looked like he wanted to be some where else didn't talk to anyone and just looked like he didn't give a shark. He didn't really have anyone classy enough in the midfield to give him quality ball. Birko much the better side but they missed Godwin up the front. Burfoot best player on the pitch.

Don't think it has to be the last man but a clear goal scoring opportunity! Which it probably was although I have to say I thought it was a soft sending off - probably more a case of the Ref trying to even out decisions!!  I agree Birko were the better side and I thought that 3-0 was a fair reflection. I also agree that De Vries was poor and absent, but without doubt, Burfoot was the best player and looked head and shoulders above the rest. Having said that I thought player for player the Birko players competed at a higher lever and seemed to want ot more.

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Anyone know when the draw is???

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Would usually be Tuesday mid day

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No news on the draw. May well be trying to work another method to keep conspiracy theory alive.

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Blew.2 wrote:

No news on the draw. May well be trying to work another method to keep conspiracy theory alive.

 

How can we Mar get to double figures of away games in a row...that's what they're working on!

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Birko host Miramar

Waitak host 3 Kings

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Birkenhead's first home tie of this year's comp ..

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Yes but that includes a bye and two other North Shore clubs...the furthest they travelled was the same distance as Mar's 2nd closest home game (Fraser).

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Hard News wrote:

Yes but that includes a bye and two other North Shore clubs...the furthest they travelled was the same distance as Mar's 2nd closest home game (Fraser).

Tough travel for Mar

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Team for Mar Quiz night anyone?

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