History for Silent

Chatting re Trent Alexander Arnold's save this morning and what might have happened had the ref seen it. Could have been deemed deliberate handball which given it would have gone in the goal would also have been a red card? Or perhaps the ref saw it and deemed the distance the ball travelled, pace of shot etc that it was unavoidable and accidental, in which case no sanction was appropriate? We can only speculate on this one.

But talking about this one got us talking about the Milner one the week before where the pen was in fact given. 

So given the penalty was awarded, the ref deemed it deliberate. Penalty - check.

The question is, given the shot was on target (and travelling at pace) was this not an example of DOGSO and Milner should also have been sent off? Or, is the position of Karius taken into account and deemed that in all likelihood Karius would have saved it?

What is the give with DOGSO handballs? Does it have to be blatantly going to be a goal (i.e. Suarez) or having conceded the pen, could Milner have counted himself lucky to stay on the pitch given Karius was going to have to make a save?

Chatting re Trent Alexander Arnold's save this morning and what might have happened had the ref seen it. Could have been deemed deliberate handball which given it would have gone in the goal would also have been a red card? Or perhaps the ref saw it and deemed the distance the ball travelled, pace of shot etc that it was unavoidable and accidental, in which case no sanction was appropriate? We can only speculate on this one.

But talking about this one got us talking about the Milner one the week before where the pen was in fact given. 

So given the penalty was awarded, the ref deemed it deliberate. Penalty - check.

The question is, given the shot was on target (and travelling at pace) was this not an example of DOGSO and Milner should also have been sent off? Or, is the position of Karius taken into account and deemed that in all likelihood Karius would have saved it?

What is the give with DOGSO handballs? Does it have to be blatantly going to be a goal (i.e. Suarez) or having conceded the pen, could Milner have counted himself lucky to stay on the pitch?

Chatting re Trent Alexander Arnold's save this morning and what might have happened had the ref seen it. Could have been deemed deliberate handball which given it would have gone in the goal would also have been a red card? Or perhaps the ref saw it and deemed the distance the ball travelled, pace of shot etc that it was unavoidable and accidental, in which case no sanction was appropriate. We can only speculate on this one.

But talking about this one got us talking about the Milner one the week before where the pen was in fact given. 

So given the penalty was awarded, the ref deemed it deliberate. Penalty - check.

The question is, given the shot was on target (and travelling at pace) was this not an example of DOGSO and Milner should also have been sent off? Or, is the position of Karius taken into account and deemed that in all likelihood Karius would have saved it?

What is the give with DOGSO handballs? Does it have to be blatantly going to be a goal (i.e. Suarez) or having conceded the pen, could Milner have counted himself lucky to stay on the pitch?

Chatting re Trent Alexander Arnold's save this morning and what might have happened had the ref seen it. Could have been deemed deliberate handball which given it would have gone in the goal would also have been a red card? Or perhaps the ref saw it and deemed the distance the ball travelled, pace of shot etc that it was unavoidable and accidental, in which case no sanction was appropriate. We can only speculate on this one.

But talking about this one got us talking about the Milner one the week before where the pen was in fact given. 

So given the penalty was awarded, the ref deemed it deliberate. Penalty - check.

The question is, given the shot was on target was this not an example of DOGSO and Milner should also have been sent off? Or, is the position of Karius taken into account and deemed that in all likelihood Karius would have saved it?

What is the give with DOGSO handballs? Does it have to be blatantly going to be a goal (i.e. Suarez) or having conceded the pen, could Milner have counted himself lucky to stay on the pitch?