a.k.a AJ13
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Teza wrote:
AJ13 wrote:

What's happens to IBU if they finish bottom, with their 3rds top of Cap2? 

No problem they just swap leagues. So Island Bay stay where they are no matter what.

So the thirds become the 2nds and vice versa?
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Clubs can fill their team slots however they want

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Feverish wrote:

Yep that's fine. He has played nearly every game for their top four teams



Yarn.... I believe all season he has played 0 for the 4ths, 1 for the 3rds and 1 for the 2nds
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Teza wrote:
Feverish wrote:

so KCU and Tawa draw, NW lose, and IB win = NW and BNU in bottom two?



The interesting thing for IBU is that the cannot regrade ANY 1st team players this week, 

why can't they? 
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Once a league has been completed, players from that team can't re-grade. I believe is the rule.

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Smithy wrote:

Once a league has been completed, players from that team can't re-grade. I believe is the rule.

Spot on. Hence why Mirarmar cant play any Prem players in Cap 1 but can play 1 Central player as the Central league is still going.

 

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Teza wrote:
Smithy wrote:

Once a league has been completed, players from that team can't re-grade. I believe is the rule.

Spot on. Hence why Mirarmar cant play any Prem players in Cap 1 but can play 1 Central player as the Central league is still going.

 


Oooo, I'm not sure you're right there. Isn't it "completed" from the pov of that team?

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Smithy wrote:
Teza wrote:
Smithy wrote:

Once a league has been completed, players from that team can't re-grade. I believe is the rule.

Spot on. Hence why Mirarmar cant play any Prem players in Cap 1 but can play 1 Central player as the Central league is still going.

 


Oooo, I'm not sure you're right there. Isn't it "completed" from the pov of that team?


It reads 'at the conclusion of their league', so I think it is when the whole league has finished as opposed ot your own teams games.

Happy to be corrected though.

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The intention of the reg is once that team has completed it's matches so I think that's how it should be managed.

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energy24.7 wrote:

The intention of the reg is once that team has completed it's matches so I think that's how it should be managed.



Fair enough.
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Teza wrote:
Smithy wrote:

Once a league has been completed, players from that team can't re-grade. I believe is the rule.

Spot on. Hence why Mirarmar cant play any Prem players in Cap 1 but can play 1 Central player as the Central league is still going.

 

yes but IBU prems still have a game left do they not?

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Teza wrote:
Smithy wrote:

Once a league has been completed, players from that team can't re-grade. I believe is the rule.

Spot on. Hence why Mirarmar cant play any Prem players in Cap 1 but can play 1 Central player as the Central league is still going.

 

yes but IBU prems still have a game left do they not?



They play their last game Saturday, the 2nds play Sunday.
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Shouldn't it be when that team has completed? Wairarapa United played a first team player who was red carded the week before, for their second team on the Sunday after the top team played on the Saturday and he "served" his suspension. Would make sense if the game definition was used across the board would it not?

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steelo wrote:

Shouldn't it be when that team has completed? Wairarapa United played a first team player who was red carded the week before, for their second team on the Sunday after the top team played on the Saturday and he "served" his suspension. Would make sense if the game definition was used across the board would it not?



Its written as 'when the league is finished' but the intention may have been different.
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So can someone explain to my basic brain the promotion relegation implications? Wellington United are definitely dropping down to Cap 1 next year and if Wainui come last, then they will also drop and top 2 teams from Cap 1 will be promoted? Although as one is wharfies, they will stay and Seatoun will take the second place?

This is the only way it can happen unless Wainui win on the weekend in Cap Prem and come second to last, therefore go into a play off with Seatoun?

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Tyler wrote:


So can someone explain to my basic brain the promotion relegation implications? Wellington United are definitely dropping down to Cap 1 next year and if Wainui come last, then they will also drop and top 2 teams from Cap 1 will be promoted? Although as one is wharfies, they will stay and Seatoun will take the second place?

This is the only way it can happen unless Wainui win on the weekend in Cap Prem and come second to last, therefore go into a play off with Seatoun?


See Prem thread
You forget that Welly Utd firsts drop into Prems and take the second team spot.
Wainui are then auto relegated for Lower Hutt if Stop Out dont get promoted and Marist play off vs Seatoun
OR
Stop Out get promoted, Lower Hutt take their spot, and Wainui play off vs Seatoun
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thelastnomad wrote:
Tyler wrote:


So can someone explain to my basic brain the promotion relegation implications? Wellington United are definitely dropping down to Cap 1 next year and if Wainui come last, then they will also drop and top 2 teams from Cap 1 will be promoted? Although as one is wharfies, they will stay and Seatoun will take the second place?

This is the only way it can happen unless Wainui win on the weekend in Cap Prem and come second to last, therefore go into a play off with Seatoun?


See Prem thread

You forget that Welly Utd firsts drop into Prems and take the second team spot.

Wainui are then auto relegated for Lower Hutt if Stop Out dont get promoted and Marist play off vs Seatoun
OR
Stop Out get promoted, Lower Hutt take their spot, and Wainui play off vs Seatoun



So what happens to Wellington Uniteds 2nd team? Do they drop to Cap 1 leaving only 1 promotion spot?

How about this scenario:

 If Island Bay finish last in Cap 1 (a big if in my opinion as they have a good side) you could have this scenario: Cap Football do the promotions first according to their regs, so Island Bay Cap 2 can't get promoted because you can't have 2 teams in Cap 1 or above so another team goes up, then they do the relegations so IBU Cap 1 go down and now IBU have 2 teams in Cap2 and none in Cap1.

Probably completely incorrect on my part but is this possible (I would think that comon sense would prevail but you never know)?

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dunno this stuff does my head in. I think it is kind weird that they say third place gets a playoff game - but doesn't give a clue as to who it would be against depending on different scenarios.

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Feverish wrote:

dunno this stuff does my head in. I think it is kind weird that they say third place gets a playoff game - but doesn't give a clue as to who it would be against depending on different scenarios.



It does my head in to and I've read the regs a number of times this season (as we all know :) ).

The promotion relegation section is not very clear and could do with a bit of tidying up.
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I was also just checking to plan my weekend football watching! Basically, the Seatoun vs Island Bay game has no meaning for promotion into Cap Prem as either scenario sees Seatoun go into a playoff? but the game does have an impact on whether Island Bay get relegated....The Wests vs Naenae Cap 2 game might be more worthy of watching!

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"too" pleasa, not "to", say tutors, when used as "also". Sorry for Norths of Welts, but u be relegated this end of week. In sight of hinds, may be better that therefore u played card of fair play and go down honest, with earn some respect from league (who now despise and laugh). Suggestion for future, no? Tho too (also) late as no one care of first team at new level Cap of 3 etc, I guess. Of gd wishes and luv for u in peace. 


Teza wrote:
Feverish wrote:

dunno this stuff does my head in. I think it is kind weird that they say third place gets a playoff game - but doesn't give a clue as to who it would be against depending on different scenarios.



It does my head in to and I've read the regs a number of times this season (as we all know :) ).

The promotion relegation section is not very clear and could do with a bit of tidying up.
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"too" pleasa, not "to", say tutors, when used as "also". Sorry for Norths of Welts, but u be relegated this end of week. In sight of hinds, may be better that therefore u played card of fair play and go down honest, with earn some respect from league (who now despise and laugh). Suggestion for future, no? Tho too (also) late as no one care of first team at new level Cap of 3 etc, I guess. Of gd wishes and luv for u in peace.

Any chance you could repost this in english? Pretty sure it's against the rules to post in txt speak.

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How are preparations for Saturday going Teza?

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Feverish wrote:

How are preparations for Saturday going Teza?

Things are going well thanks for asking:

I have my excuses ready just in case.

I have a thirst ready for an after match drink no matter what

I have a hug ready for our boys just in case

I have some valium to calm the coaching staff down over the weekend in case it all goes down to the wire on Sunday

I have the Crane, Poole & Schmidt on speed dial.

So all good to go :)



 

 

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Teza wrote:
Feverish wrote:

How are preparations for Saturday going Teza?

Things are going well thanks for asking:

I have my excuses ready just in case.

I have a thirst ready for an after match drink no matter what

I have a hug ready for our boys just in case

I have some valium to calm the coaching staff down over the weekend in case it all goes down to the wire on Sunday

I have the Crane, Poole & Schmidt on speed dial.

So all good to go :)


 

 

Photographer for legal proof?
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Feverish wrote:
Teza wrote:
Feverish wrote:

How are preparations for Saturday going Teza?

Things are going well thanks for asking:

I have my excuses ready just in case.

I have a thirst ready for an after match drink no matter what

I have a hug ready for our boys just in case

I have some valium to calm the coaching staff down over the weekend in case it all goes down to the wire on Sunday

I have the Crane, Poole & Schmidt on speed dial.

So all good to go :)


 

 

Photographer for legal proof?

No need, Sky will be filming the game.

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Loftus Road wrote:

Wharf 3 (Lewer 2, Webb) Jville 2

Congrats Karori and a game played in good spirit despite some of the stuff posted on this thread.  
I am reliably informed Kapiti 3 Tawa 1 final
all up to tommorow now for relegation, plus results of the grades around us
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mjp2 wrote:
Loftus Road wrote:

Wharf 3 (Lewer 2, Webb) Jville 2

Congrats Karori and a game played in good spirit despite some of the stuff posted on this thread.  

I am reliably informed Kapiti 3 Tawa 1 final

all up to tommorow now for relegation, plus results of the grades around us


Well done Karori.  A good game by both sides with no real niggle.  
Two errors by us gifted karori two goals and a great performance from their keeper denied us 2 or 3.  That's not to say karori didn't have their chances as well, our keeper had to pull off a few good saves himself. 

No comment on our second goal :) the ref was adamant after the game though that the ball went in. 

Overall a good performance from our guys, much more grit and determination was shown, which bodes well for next season

Now we wait. ......
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that was a poor call from that ref to give your second. He was on nearly halfway and could never have conclusively determined whether the ball was over. 

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Feverish wrote:

that was a poor call from that ref to give your second. He was on nearly halfway and could never have conclusively determined whether the ball was over. 



I agree (but we had to take it though as them's the rules :) ). The ref said afterwards that he saw a shadow over the line and the fact that the keeper ran into the inside side netting afterwards cliched it for him (he was a way back as you said so not sure about that). I thought overall though he had a pretty good game, got most things right and was fair for both sides.

It was a good clean tough game today with some nice passing movement from both sides as well as some good moments of individual skill. I'm obviously disappointed with the result as I thought we played well and deserved a draw at the least but on the other hand we finally stepped up and added a bit of physicality to our play, something that's been missing from our game a bit this season.

Really pleased with how our younger players played today especially our number 13,16 & 11 :) they are developing into good players and should be better for the experience this year.

Overall it's been a tough season for us what with basically having to rebuild an entire squad again (only 3 1st team players left from last year and all of them under 21) but with this squad and the addition of a couple of more experienced players next year I think we are on the right path (no matter what happens tomorrow).

It was also good to meet you finally Feverish, hopefully well meet you guys again in Cap one next season.

Tez

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Good chat tez, wasn't at the game today but appreciate your remarks, all the best for tomorrows result

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Teza wrote:
Feverish wrote:

that was a poor call from that ref to give your second. He was on nearly halfway and could never have conclusively determined whether the ball was over. 



I agree (but we had to take it though as them's the rules :) ). The ref said afterwards that he saw a shadow over the line and the fact that the keeper ran into the inside side netting afterwards cliched it for him (he was a way back as you said so not sure about that). I thought overall though he had a pretty good game, got most things right and was fair for both sides.

It was a good clean tough game today with some nice passing movement from both sides as well as some good moments of individual skill. I'm obviously disappointed with the result as I thought we played well and deserved a draw at the least but on the other hand we finally stepped up and added a bit of physicality to our play, something that's been missing from our game a bit this season.

Really pleased with how our younger players played today especially our number 13,16 & 11 :) they are developing into good players and should be better for the experience this year.

Overall it's been a tough season for us what with basically having to rebuild an entire squad again (only 3 1st team players left from last year and all of them under 21) but with this squad and the addition of a couple of more experienced players next year I think we are on the right path (no matter what happens tomorrow).

It was also good to meet you finally Feverish, hopefully well meet you guys again in Cap one next season.

Tez

'The ref said afterwards that he saw a shadow over the line'
This has got to be the quote of the season. He said the same thing to me
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Feverish wrote:
Teza wrote:
Feverish wrote:

that was a poor call from that ref to give your second. He was on nearly halfway and could never have conclusively determined whether the ball was over. 



I agree (but we had to take it though as them's the rules :) ). The ref said afterwards that he saw a shadow over the line and the fact that the keeper ran into the inside side netting afterwards cliched it for him (he was a way back as you said so not sure about that). I thought overall though he had a pretty good game, got most things right and was fair for both sides.

It was a good clean tough game today with some nice passing movement from both sides as well as some good moments of individual skill. I'm obviously disappointed with the result as I thought we played well and deserved a draw at the least but on the other hand we finally stepped up and added a bit of physicality to our play, something that's been missing from our game a bit this season.

Really pleased with how our younger players played today especially our number 13,16 & 11 :) they are developing into good players and should be better for the experience this year.

Overall it's been a tough season for us what with basically having to rebuild an entire squad again (only 3 1st team players left from last year and all of them under 21) but with this squad and the addition of a couple of more experienced players next year I think we are on the right path (no matter what happens tomorrow).

It was also good to meet you finally Feverish, hopefully well meet you guys again in Cap one next season.

Tez

'The ref said afterwards that he saw a shadow over the line'

This has got to be the quote of the season. He said the same thing to me

I guess since Cap 5 had finished up they had spare refs for you lot so gave the regular refs a rest haha 

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Bnu 2-0 down at the end of the first half.

 They missed a penalty

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Seatoun 2-1 up. Charged game but quality low

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Final BNU v Miramar 1-6.

BNU played well in the first half and early in the 2nd.  They got it back to 2-1 in the second but Miramars greater experience and skill took the game away from them. The never gave up trying though.



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BNU smashed. Too much reliance on a few key players who left mid season, and the results haven't been the same since.

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Final score in the IBU V Seatourn game 2-1 to Seatourn

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Final table









1 Lower Hutt City 18 12 3 3 57 24 33 39
2 Waterside Karori 18 11 3 4 30 20 10 36
3 Seatoun AFC 18 8 3 6 30
25 5
30
4 Miramar Rangers 18 8 1 9 42 44 -2 25
5 Victoria University Gossies 18 7 3 8 35 29 6 24
6 Kapiti Coast United 1sts 18 8 0 10 43 53 -10 24
7 Tulsi North Wellington 18 6 3 9 29 40 -11 21
8 Brooklyn Northern United 18 7 0 11 33 53 -20 21
9 Island Bay United 18 6 2 9 30
35 -5 20
10 Tawa AFC 18 6 2 10 18 24 -6 20

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