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Posted January 29, 2014 21:24 · last edited January 29, 2014 21:24

Napier Phoenix wrote:
Feverish wrote:

Yep personal insults are very helpful well played big man.

The banter here is about a specific issue involving certain participants, not about how boards can never make incorrect decisions as they were elected. That was my point to you. Maybe try using CF instead of the Maori party for a start and go from there.


I've had a look through this whole thread and your contribution is minimal in terms of offering anything constructive. In fact your response to my posting was fairly typical and glib. If your argument [and I don't know how we can determine what that is aside from it appears you don't like the decision] is about a specific issue then the whole decision making process and mandate is very germaine to the discussion. In a nutshell, CF has the mandate to make a decision and in this case they did. The matter was appealed to NZF who told them they had not followed the correct process and so CF went back and made the same decision but in accordance witht heir rules [as they should have done in the first place]. So the process has been followed and anya rgument on that point should be along the lines that the process should be changed if it does not have the support of the membership. while not a straight forward process, that can be changed if people desire it enough. So the complaint must be about whether the decision is a fair one or not. It might not be seen as being fair by many, [I'm sure NW think it's fair] but surely that is all it is?

Given that there will be an imbalance in team numbers between 1 & 2, no one has been stopped from going up to a higher grade as a result of the decision.

If teams are that worried about having a bye, they can organise games against other teams in those weeks if they wish.

My opinion regarding elected organisations right to organise in the manner they best see fit is unchanged [even though you and others have a contrary opinion].

Here's a couple of your contributions to the debate that you've posted, I'll leave others to decide how deep and meaningful they might be:

Just when you though NW couldn't fark off everyone any more..can the board just change things on a whim? seems rather strange

weekly bye where clubs can stack lower teams

That sentence is nonsenseThe realities are that odd team leagues at the top level are shit house. And the fact that everyone is hating on NW in the first place anyway.

If it actually is the board then they all need an uppercut

zero. Maybe a whinge but not an appeal (as they wouldn't have a case)

NZF should appeal it as this is giving them the birdie

Cap 1 shouldn't have to play mid week

The issue here is whether this is a satisfactory decision made by the board. No one has said it is yet. 

 

When reading this thread - just ignore Feverish and Horsehead. Theyre a couple of Karori old boys with personal vendettas against NW, and theyre just going to keep whinging. No use in arguing with them or trying to prove them wrong. You wont win.

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Smoodiver edited January 29, 2014 21:24
Napier Phoenix wrote:
Feverish wrote:

Yep personal insults are very helpful well played big man.

The banter here is about a specific issue involving certain participants, not about how boards can never make incorrect decisions as they were elected. That was my point to you. Maybe try using CF instead of the Maori party for a start and go from there.


I've had a look through this whole thread and your contribution is minimal in terms of offering anything constructive. In fact your response to my posting was fairly typical and glib. If your argument [and I don't know how we can determine what that is aside from it appears you don't like the decision] is about a specific issue then the whole decision making process and mandate is very germaine to the discussion. In a nutshell, CF has the mandate to make a decision and in this case they did. The matter was appealed to NZF who told them they had not followed the correct process and so CF went back and made the same decision but in accordance witht heir rules [as they should have done in the first place]. So the process has been followed and anya rgument on that point should be along the lines that the process should be changed if it does not have the support of the membership. while not a straight forward process, that can be changed if people desire it enough. So the complaint must be about whether the decision is a fair one or not. It might not be seen as being fair by many, [I'm sure NW think it's fair] but surely that is all it is?

Given that there will be an imbalance in team numbers between 1 & 2, no one has been stopped from going up to a higher grade as a result of the decision.

If teams are that worried about having a bye, they can organise games against other teams in those weeks if they wish.

My opinion regarding elected organisations right to organise in the manner they best see fit is unchanged [even though you and others have a contrary opinion].

Here's a couple of your contributions to the debate that you've posted, I'll leave others to decide how deep and meaningful they might be:

Just when you though NW couldn't fark off everyone any more..can the board just change things on a whim? seems rather strange

weekly bye where clubs can stack lower teams

That sentence is nonsenseThe realities are that odd team leagues at the top level are shit house. And the fact that everyone is hating on NW in the first place anyway.

If it actually is the board then they all need an uppercut

zero. Maybe a whinge but not an appeal (as they wouldn't have a case)

NZF should appeal it as this is giving them the birdie

Cap 1 shouldn't have to play mid week

The issue here is whether this is a satisfactory decision made by the board. No one has said it is yet. 

Two things ive learned from this thread - just ignore Feverish and Horsehead. Theyre a couple of Karori old boys with personal vendettas against NW, and theyre just going to keep whinging. No use in arguing with them or trying to prove them wrong. You wont win.