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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Capital football and baselayers
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Ok so this evening i had to roll my short-length under layers up so that they werent visible, another team mate had to take his full length leggings off... yet sleeves were fine. Can anyone shed some light on this? Ive NEVER had this problem before.
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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Short length leggings are okay if they match the short colour, but full length have always been against the rules is my understanding.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
FIFA rules says your under layers have to been the same main colour as the top layer.  Some refs enforced it more than others.
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Yeah, you're not the first at the Hilton this year I don't think.  I remember someone having to go off and dump leggings opening week.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
since when? this must be a NZF ruling, im seeing overseas players wearing full length regularly

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AJ132010-03-01 21:17:04
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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Is Steve Woodin wearing tights in this photo?

No? Then you don't need them.


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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
FIFA state that baselayers must be, if under your shirt, the colour of your shirts sleeve or, if under your shorts, the colour of your shorts. nothing about full length sleeves/leggings being unable to be worn.

thanks anyway guys.
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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Laws of the Game talks about allowing undershorts to be worn, no mention of full length, which suggests that full length leggings shouldn't. The get out clause is probably that players are allowed to "use equipment other than the basic equipment" if it is to protect that player and were't dangerous. Referee's discretion.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I interpret "undershorts" to be anything worn under your shorts, regardless of what that may be. and if it is visible it must be the colour of your shorts.

I accept that tonight i was wearing black baselayers (short length) and rolled them up when asked to by the referee.
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Went out and ordered green skins last year as playing for PN Marist, then 3 weeks after getting them ended up shifting to (black short wearing) Te Awamutu Fortunately never had a problem up here - was often enforced at Mid Central 1 level, but not in Wai/BoP Fed league.
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You might see more discretion being applied when it's the middle of June/July with a howling southerly at Wakefield. What do you need skins for in the middle of summer anyway?

But as has been pointed out already, all under garments need to be the same colour as the strip. Undershorts should be shorts - not full length stockings

When Hibs, went up, to win the Scottish Cup - I wisnae there - furfuxake!

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ginger_eejit wrote:
You might see more discretion being applied when it's the middle of June/July with a howling southerly at Wakefield. What do you need skins for in the middle of summer anyway?

But as has been pointed out already, all under garments need to be the same colour as the strip. Undershorts should be shorts - not full length stockings

summer to reduce grass burn, winter for added warmth and comfort. i just generally feel more suported. ive always worn them, and dont see any harm to others or to the game in wearing them. im also a little superstitious and wont play without them (i also lace my boots in a particular fashion!... yea i know).
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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
You should have been sent off for trying to wear pantyhose on the field

All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Frankie Mac wrote:
You should have been sent off for trying to wear pantyhose on the field

You should be sent off for being too f**king ugly
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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Dearie me, fancy stockings to avoid grass burns. And to think back in Scotland football is played on blaze pitches (a fine gravel). You're playing into the hands of the rugger knockers who say football is a big jessies game! ;)

When Hibs, went up, to win the Scottish Cup - I wisnae there - furfuxake!

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ginger_eejit wrote:
You might see more discretion being applied when it's the middle of June/July with a howling southerly
 
Well, you might think that, but it still depends very much on your referee.
 
For example, I coached a children's team in a game against Tawa last year and a well known referee from the area refereed the game.
 
It was raining, windy, and about two degrees below freezing.
 
Players on both teams were wearing skins and gloves (much like you see in the premiership).  Most of them were black.  None of the strips were black.  So this referee made all the boys remove those base layers and play without them.
 
He refereed in a rain jacket.
 
 

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
^^ i think thats a bit OTT for a childrens game.

il be buying some baselayers this week and making sure theyre colour coordinated with the club strip. if i get shunted for wearing full length leggings i guess il just have to wear short length. im usually quite sincere with referees, always meeting with them before kick offs for a quick chat, pre match discussion, a laugh or two... hopefully it shouldnt be an issue.
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ginger_eejit wrote:
You might see more discretion being applied when it's the middle of June/July with a howling southerly at Wakefield. What do you need skins for in the middle of summer anyway?

But as has been pointed out already, all under garments need to be the same colour as the strip. Undershorts should be shorts - not full length stockings
There dosent need to be any discretion at all!
Wearing long garments under your shorts (in the correct colour) is not against the rules. Some refs are just total w**kers when they step across the white line and need to be told to pull their heads outta their arses.
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Traveller wrote:
ginger_eejit wrote:
You might see more discretion being applied when it's the middle of June/July with a howling southerly at Wakefield. What do you need skins for in the middle of summer anyway?

But as has been pointed out already, all under garments need to be the same colour as the strip. Undershorts should be shorts - not full length stockings
There dosent need to be any discretion at all!
Wearing long garments under your shorts (in the correct colour) is not against the rules. Some refs are just total w**kers when they step across the white line and need to be told to pull their heads outta their arses.


Wearing long garments under your shorts (in the correct colour) is not against the rules.

You may have a point!

Basic equipment
Colours:
� If the jerseys of the two goalkeepers are the same colour and neither has
another jersey to change into, the referee shall allow play to begin
If a player loses his footwear accidentally and immediately plays the ball and/or
scores a goal, there is no infringement and the goal is awarded because he lost
his footwear by accident.
Goalkeepers may wear tracksuit bottoms as part of their basic equipment.
Other equipment
A player may use equipment other than the basic equipment provided that its
sole purpose is to protect him physically and it poses no danger to him or any
other player.
All items of clothing or equipment other than the basic equipment must be
inspected by the referee and determined not to be dangerous.
Modern protective equipment such as headgear, facemasks and knee and
arm protectors made of soft, lightweight padded material are not considered
dangerous and are therefore permitted.
In view of the new technology that has made sports spectacles much safer,
both for the wearer and for other players, referees should show tolerance
when authorising their use, particularly for younger players.
If an item of clothing or equipment that has been inspected at the start of a
match and determined not to be dangerous becomes dangerous or is used in a
dangerous manner during the match, its use must no longer be allowed.
The use of radio communication systems between players and/or technical staff
is not permitted.


"Some refs players are just total w**kers when they step across the white line and need to be told to pull their heads outta their arses."

Fixed
ginger_eejit2010-03-02 14:53:31

When Hibs, went up, to win the Scottish Cup - I wisnae there - furfuxake!

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I said that earlier! Not the refs are w**kers stuff, the other bit! The 'a player may use equipment other than the basic equipment blah, blah'  bit is a get out clause for allowing full length leggings to be worn. 
 
Unless of course a referee decided that they weren't actually being worn to physically protect the player.......
Jag2010-03-02 16:00:12

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Jag wrote:
I said that earlier! Not the refs are w**kers stuff, the other bit! The 'a player may use equipment other than the basic equipment blah, blah'  bit is a get out clause for allowing full length leggings to be worn. 
 
Unless a referee decided that they weren't actually being worn to physically protect the player.......


Sorry - so you did!

Doesn't take away from the fact they sound like a big bunch of jessies wearing fancy leggings so they don't get grass burns.

What the going to do about the oppo centre back who's going to boot them 6 feet in the air. Look for protection from the ref they've called a w***er and told to wind his neck in?
ginger_eejit2010-03-02 16:01:26

When Hibs, went up, to win the Scottish Cup - I wisnae there - furfuxake!

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Grass burns! Pah!
 
Like you said earlier, when we played back home as a kid on those red ash pitches!!! You got your legs ripped to sh*t from arsehole to ankle in the first game of the season and they didn't heal till after the season finished. Good days
 
 

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Indeed, unfortunately google is not my friend, and can't seem to find any decent pics of said red ash pitches that polka dot the west of Scotland landscape.

But for edification sake, it's like playing football on the dirt/ash tracks that are used between the bases in baseball/softball

When Hibs, went up, to win the Scottish Cup - I wisnae there - furfuxake!

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A referee telling a player to remove their tights shouldn't need to give any more explanation than:
 
1. You look like a dick.
2. You are a marketing man's bitch.
3. Harden the f**k up, it's not that cold.
 
Also, there is already scientific evidence being published that shows that baselayers rub against your gonads to the extent that they will eventually retreat back inside you and you will become a eunuch. Source (read all the way to the end).

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terminator_x wrote:
A referee telling a player to remove their tights shouldn't need to give any more explanation than:
�

1. You look like a dick.

2. You are a marketing man's bitch.

3. Harden the f**k up, it's not that cold.

�

Also, there is already scientific evidence being published that shows that baselayers rub against your gonads to the extent that they will eventually retreat back inside you and you will become a eunuch. Source (read all the way to the end).


Cheers T-X, if the chance arises, I may use yuor explanation sometime this season.   

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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terminator_x wrote:
A referee telling a player to remove their tights shouldn't need to give any more explanation than:
 
1. You look like a dick.
2. You are a marketing man's bitch.
3. Harden the f**k up, it's not that cold.
 
Also, there is already scientific evidence being published that shows that baselayers rub against your gonads to the extent that they will eventually retreat back inside you and you will become a eunuch. Source (read all the way to the end).
 
Can someone tell Hard News this.
 
Despite having the top speed of a dead salmon he owns about seventeen types of compression garment.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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Smithy wrote:
terminator_x wrote:
A referee telling a player to remove their tights shouldn't need to give any more explanation than:
 
1. You look like a dick.
2. You are a marketing man's bitch.
3. Harden the f**k up, it's not that cold.
 
Also, there is already scientific evidence being published that shows that baselayers rub against your gonads to the extent that they will eventually retreat back inside you and you will become a eunuch. Source (read all the way to the end).
 
Can someone tell Hard News this.
 
Despite having the top speed of a dead salmon he owns about seventeen types of compression garment.


That's not for muscle support, he'd better off with:




ginger_eejit2010-03-02 19:18:28

When Hibs, went up, to win the Scottish Cup - I wisnae there - furfuxake!

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ginger_eejit wrote:
Smithy wrote:
[Can someone tell Hard News this.
 
Despite having the top speed of a dead salmon he owns about seventeen types of compression garment.


That's not for muscle support, he'd better off with:





well you could argue that Skinz (as in the brand) are  in fact designed with muscle support in mind. among other things.

and besides, if you said to the reff you had a rash or sunburn or a bruise or something on your thigh, and fealt that you needed to wear them, he would need to let you wear them.

i dont know how many of you guys have actually worn them, even if only at training (im guessing next to f**k all), but theyre good.
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Whooosh - joke at News' expense goes way over AJ13's head.

I understand what skins are used for, I've seen the same marketing gumpf as you have.
What I was getting at was that News wouldn't have much need for it! ;)

My peformance wear extends to a thermal undershirt when I've got Wakefield in a July Southerly

When Hibs, went up, to win the Scottish Cup - I wisnae there - furfuxake!

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terminator_x wrote:
Is Steve Woodin wearing tights in this photo?

No? Then you don't need them.



Hah.

That's like saying "Did Steve Woodin use a cellphone to contact people? No. Then you don't"

Times change, the sport evolves, and new equipment gets brought out. What's the big deal?
Buffon II2010-03-02 23:17:36

Three for me, and two for them.

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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago


Allegedly

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Buffon II wrote:

That's like saying "Did Steve Woodin use a cellphone to contact people? No. Then you don't"

Times change, the sport evolves, and new equipment gets brought out. What's the big deal?
 
Wrong. Tights have been around for years but in Steve Woodin's day they were only worn by ballet dancers.
 
The only thing that has changed in the meantime is the hardness of footballers (which is in decline, obviously).
 
terminator_x2010-03-03 13:15:43

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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I hope that the hatred for tights here doesn't extend to padded goalie trousers.

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There is now almost as much scientific evidence rejecting any benefits associated with compression garments as there is stating those benefits.
 
At the end of the day more a matter of style than science.
 
 

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Meh, even if its a placebo effect they work for me (but you wouldn't catch me dead wearing the longs during a match!). Shorts for the game, I would consider tights after, but ain't gonna spend $150+ on them.
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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Back at uni and leeching off the wife. Already shelled out for petrol to Wellington and back twice, plus tickets. Don't think she will be impressed if I come back with a pair of unnecessary long johns! Good deal though.
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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Tell her you bought them to help her live out her Ian Thorpe fantasies in the bedroom.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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