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Capital Premier 2012

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Palmy finished their season with a win.  Whanganui need to win their last 3 to take title.

 

1   PN Marist Watson Real Estate 1st 17 13 2 2 41 9 32 41 2   HRT Builders Wanganui City 14 10 3 1 43 12 31 33 3   Redsox Manawatu Stewarts Powerbase 1st Team 16 9 4 3 39 15 24 31 4   Team Taranaki 16 9 2 5 52 20 32 29 5   North End AFC 1sts Altherm Window Systems 16 4 3 9 22 44 -22 15 6   PNBHS 1st XI 17 4 2 11 23 38 -15 14 7   Feilding Hotel 1sts 15 3 3 9 23 46 -23 12 8   Strong Electrical Wanganui Athletic 17 2 1 14 9 68 -59 7

 

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

How does a 17-game season in an 8-team competition work?

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

two rounds = 14 games.

Then split into top 4 and bottom 4.  Three more games each.

 

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

So Wanga didn't play this weekend and they still have three games left? And playoffs need to wait til the play them/ lose one? 

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

They play today.

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
thelastnomad wrote:

You were well lucky - Petone had the better off us today. They scored 85th minute, we kicked off, went down the other end and scored.

To say they were gutted is an understatement

Yeah we heard thats how it went. They would have been heart broken. To be fair we had the better of it when we played you as well but it's never easy taking three points from kilbirnie park.

Fuck this stupid game

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2ndBest wrote:

Team gisborne has decided not to contest a CL playoff.  In addition, current equal leader of the Pacific Premiership, Taradale, are ineligible for the playoff as it is their second team.

 http://www.hawkesbaytoday.co.nz/news/soccer-gisborne-too-quick-too-clinical/1501923/

He (Brett Derry) said Gisborne were very capable of footing it in the Central League but travelling two hours to the Bay and another two from here to Palmerston North or four to Wellington wasn't practical with the recession and difficulties in securing sponsorship.
"We've got through this season with 14 grand [thousand dollars] and we've got young people coming through," he said, adding the task of maintaining continuity in the squad would be challenging each season as youngsters headed off to university.

The financial restictions coupled with young talent leaving for uni has always been the mojor barrier for teams up there to succeed/maintain a CL team, bit of a shame really but understandable.

Fuck this stupid game

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Sigh of relief from Wgtn teams with Gisborne's decison. But yes the days of chartered planes have long gone from the budgets of any team playing central league.

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POS   TEAM P W D L For Agst GD PTS 1   PN Marist Watson Real Estate 1st 17 13 2 2 41 9 32 41 2   HRT Builders Wanganui City 16 12 3 1 50 17 33 39 3   Redsox Manawatu Stewarts Powerbase 1st Team 16 9 4 3 39 15 24 31 4   Team Taranaki 17 9 2 6 55 24 31 29 5   North End AFC 1sts Altherm Window Systems 17 4 4 9 23 45 -22 16 6   PNBHS 1st XI 17 4 2 11 23 38 -15 14 7   Feilding Hotel 1sts 17 3 4 10 26 50 -24 13 8   Strong Electrical Wanganui Athletic 17 2 1 14 9 68 -59 7

 

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I don't say this often, but...

... c'mon Red Sox!

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

wanganui city won on the weekend to win the league, i think they have decided not to play upper hutt in the home and away promotion game, not sure on their reasons for doing this.

i think pn marist are playing upper hutt instead as they came second in the league, first leg in palmerston north this weekend.

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

My understanding is they fielded a player who was suspended so the result from the weekend was over-turned.

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
 

NOTICE TO LOTTO WESTERN PREMIERSHIP CLUBS

 

You may already be aware that Wanganui City has decided not to contest the play off for the 2013 Lotto Men’s Central League. This decision was made by the club and was reached after consultation with and working alongside Central Football. Under the regulations this allows Marist as    

Premiership runners up to partake in the play off.

 

It needs to be made clear that despite their decision Wanganui City remains the 2012 Lotto Western Premiership winners and we congratulate them on that well deserved success. We also extend our very best wishes to Marist for the play off against Upper Hutt this Saturday.

 

With kind regards to all, and thanks for your participation in this year’s Premiership.

 

John McGifford   

 

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Yeah.  Interesting.  Certainly some people involved at Upper Hutt had heard they had lost the points so wonder where that came from.

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holeinone wrote:
 

NOTICE TO LOTTO WESTERN PREMIERSHIP CLUBS

 

You may already be aware that Wanganui City has decided not to contest the play off for the 2013 Lotto Men’s Central League. This decision was made by the club and was reached after consultation with and working alongside Central Football. Under the regulations this allows Marist as    

Premiership runners up to partake in the play off.

 

It needs to be made clear that despite their decision Wanganui City remains the 2012 Lotto Western Premiership winners and we congratulate them on that well deserved success. We also extend our very best wishes to Marist for the play off against Upper Hutt this Saturday.

 

With kind regards to all, and thanks for your participation in this year’s Premiership.

 

John McGifford   

 

 

Sounds controversial!

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

If the decision is controvertial - they would have been relegated (or listed as losing the game) to 2nd.

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

stitch up

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City forfeit play-offs chance
 
 

Wanganui City's projected budget for taking part in next season's Central League football was only about half the amount Central Football believed the Wanganui club needed.

The two were unable to meet in between and City, winner of the Western premiership this season, has forfeited its chance of making the league - a sad end to the club's best performance in the past 28 years.

This weekend's play-off will now be between Wellington qualifier Upper Hutt City and second-placed Western premiership team Palmerston North Marist.

City's senior team co-ordinator Simon Butters says Central Football asked for a budget last week and City had only a couple of days to come up with one.

"We gave them a ballpark figure of around $20,000 to compete in the competition. That's what we thought it would cost to run a team in the Central competition for the season.

"They came back with believing $40,000 was required. We pointed out our club was run a little differently from some other clubs but they wouldn't agree. They didn't feel we had put in enough contingencies."
 

 
 
Club president Gary Mackenzie said the club had not wanted to commit club sponsors to unspecified payments early in the season in case the club did not make the play-offs, but hinted at a far different approach next season as a result of the decision reached between Central and City not to go ahead this season.

"This was an incredibly tough decision to make given the players and coach were so deserving of the opportunity to play off.

"The committee, however, have had to consider the significant financial commitment of the Central League and be confident that those obligations could be met. In fairness to our club, to Marist, to the Central League and the Central Federation we felt we could not proceed, without certainty of being able to meet that commitment.

"I can only but express the disappointment we as a club feel."

Mackenzie said it was likely next season that the play-offs would become a major focus, with a sub-committee committed to planning - and seeking early funding - being formed pre-season.

"We will focus on the likelihood of promotion and sort out methods of financially supporting it."

City does not employ a professional fundraiser and would finish up with a loss this year, he said.

"We had verbal promises of support if we made the play-offs but you can't plan on verbals. The club is not absolutely financial and if we had entered into this competition, it would have crippled us," he said.

"It's past the point of no return now, and that's sad. It's a done deal. Hutt Valley will play Marist. The club has to think about all its teams, not just the top one."

Central Football CEO John McGifford says the $40,000 quote was not a fully costed one but he felt the $20,000 would have been "a bare minimum".

The cost of entering a team in the Central League, and ground, affiliation and other fees was $4000 alone, and the club would also have been required to field another senior team in Central Federation football.

There is one strong positive, though.

Butters says the players held a meeting on Tuesday night and promised to stick with the club.

"They're determined to win the league again and gain promotion into 2014," said Butters.

 

 
 

 

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

This is bazaar (as I'm on CL committee I will leave it at that) 

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

What does it cost these days to run a team in the womens central League, with transport, player expensives and coaching fee's. Oh yes that small fee to cover refs. Must be around 20k? They only have 8 teams of which one is in Palmerston North.

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I can't see whats so bizarre about it. It costs teams like Wanganui far more when they have to travel every other week. Team Gisborne on the other side of the federation realised the exact same thing. It takes a long time to establish a financial base to support the demands of Central League. I heard team gizzy forcast CL costs to be closer to 70k.

Fuck this stupid game

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Even taking into account 9 home games and players drive to Palmerston. It leaves 5 trips to Wgtn, 1 Wairarapa and 1 to Napier, that must be $14k in bus hire alone. It is a big commitment on any team supported by voulenteers to play in the Central league.

Good on them for at least accepting the advise, withdrawing early and not stuffing up the 2013 C/L because they ran out of money.

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

why not take say 5 cars? 40 bucks each way? 9 trips? $3600 (not too up to speed on the price of petrol but I am driving to Wanga now so will update). Coaching may be a cost regardless of what league they are in (I assume they would retain their current coach), and player expenses are within their control and again may be independent of the league. Refs fees are included in CL fee - which is reasonable and again they would have a league fee for whatever league they were in.

I would say that Massey who have performed well in Wimmins would get a lot of change from 20k. I know every other team in the league would.

The cost of CL comes from having to buy a team. If Wanga to happy to go with what they have, and probably end up back where they came from the year after, then that's a decision they may want to make. Personally I think they should take the opportunity (not that I think they would have had a chance v UH). 

(by the way Blew there are two Palmy teams in wimmins CL and a third one in the play-off. And Wanga ain't Gisi TopLeft).

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Feverish wrote:

(by the way Blew there are two Palmy teams in wimmins CL and a third one in the play-off. And Wanga ain't Gisi TopLeft).

Sorry forgot that fancy named team was from Central. But Women don't mind roughing it in self drive transport.

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Valeron have one team in their club and no money and they managed it. 

"Lads- we can realise everything we have worked hard for and play in the top league next year, however it may require a bit of car pooling. Or we can play local again and maybe never get the chance to use the flash bus we are saving up for.."

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Anyone from UH know if they were given a few days by CF to come up with a suitable season budget?

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Women's CL ain't mens CL Feverish.

Fuck this stupid game

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I wasn't the one who raised women's in the first place to be fair. 

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Sorry that was me.

But yes good question on whether UH did have advise their projected budget.

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

 Anybody know the score from play off 1st leg yesterday ?????

 Cant find it on any sites. 

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

This site is good:

http://www.ultimatenzsoccer.com/

 

Lotto Central Region Premier League play-off
2.00
Marist Palmerston North
S. Tippett (pen)
1-3
Upper Hutt City
A. Castillo, P. Patterson, R. Mays

 

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Feverish wrote:

Anyone from UH know if they were given a few days by CF to come up with a suitable season budget?

No - but then we don't owe anybody anything, and we don't have to do big travel every second week.  There's only Napier and Wairarapa now.

BTW - your comments here and podcast re choking - we missed out against a Maycenvale team stacked with Napier players signed for the purpose.  And once is not a history of choking - others have tried and failed more often.

Scores were:

PN Marist 1, UH 3.  UH 1, PNM 1.

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over 13 years ago

NE1 know whether one club has had both women's and men's Premier teams win promotion to CL before?

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over 13 years ago


Congratulations to Upper Hutt. Good to have another Hutt team in comp. Now if Stop Out could get sorted!

A dog with a bone :)

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over 13 years ago

 Good stuff Upper Hutt, how does this affect teams in other grades? Do Petone get to stay in Prems now?

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over 13 years ago

Yes. Dunno about grades below that but thought someone mentioned there could be a trickle-down (not wees) effect.

Fuck this stupid game

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over 13 years ago

 working at it!

Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
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