Capital Soccer Website

Capital Soccer Website

Has anyone been able to access the site today?

no

I only ever use Sportzone...

Can't  from Island Bay...

has the www arrived south of berhampore- well, blow me down me heartys!

Listen to Newstalk zb after news for transfers and post on here

No cancellations  just the transfers to Newtown turf as previously mentioned

Sites back up

Heaping of junior cancellations, but no seniors

Woops, yeah i meant senior football cancellations 

Am "enjoying" the regular updating on the capital football website this year. Junior822010-06-10 10:28:34

Junior News used to get Warehouse boots but I can't bring myself to do that now. 

He's in Puma's (black) this year which cost too much but Pro-Direct have some cheap good kids gear for next time.  Biggest concern is at the rate he's going, next year he'll fit my boots and I'm not sure I'm ready to share.
Hard News2010-06-10 10:39:48

I can understand as kids get older they want to be up with new technology and quality might also come into consideration.  I remember being absolutely stoked when I got my first pair of boots with screw in studs at secondary school (might have been nike - it had a red stripe on it).

New look CF website-
yay or nay?

I say nay

it's having a shocker at the mo

Does anyone know what has been happening with the website? I thought that clubs were supposed to be trying out the Sporting Pulse site but not many liked it. Then someone local was supposed to be writing something.
I'm wondering why Capital Soccer would go to this system yet still use the same fixture software

It looks like poo at the moment.

But this is just the front end of the new Goal Net system isn't it? Have any clubs had communications about this?

If it works - online registrations and all that - it should be good and save a heap of time and money.

I can't be fagged reading any of the info on the site though. Someone just tell me about it.

I know of someone developing a whole system designed to create draws/schedules/fixtures etc with a whole statistics database behind it. Probably a bit far off yet but I understand you've expressed interest in it already Tony?

I think the Goalnet data mgmt will be good. Prob compulsory too.

You've been down in the 2nd team then?
Not far off at all. We hope to have the basics up and running in a week or 2.

Check it out here - http://www.getyourgameon.co.nz

As it's in the development stage there is the opportunity for you to suggest certain features that may have been overlooked like - A points table that always shows your team first or a prediction game that always shows your team is going to win or a forum that is only about your team and how fantastic they are.
SportZone2010-07-02 08:27:12

As I understand it that's what Goal Net is Teza - a nationwide NZF player database, scheduling system, web front end (for those clubs that want to use it) etc. But I hadn't heard anything about it recently until this popped up.

Great idea if it all comes together. Should reduce a lot of admin effort for clubs hopefully.

All good if clubs were capable of or willing to provide the inf. Some don't even have websites SportZone2010-07-02 11:23:32

Hi guys - I'm the guy writing getyourgameon.co.nz.

Looks like the new capital football website is sportingpulse, but surprisingly they are using their existing way of making the draw rather than sportingpulse's inbuilt facilities for it. Maybe they are unable to change mid way through the season, I wouldn't be surprised as generating draws is a complicated job.

Sportingpulse is an aussie company, I don't think they have much to do with GoalNet.

Teza - regarding your question, well as it happens I used to be doing just that. Had magical scripts that would scrape the data from capital football, WIS etc. and put them in a database for my personal viewing pleasure. It was a bit hacky and broken and I lost it in the end, but it proves it's possible.

I'd like to, when getyourgameon has enough functionality, to do it again with capital football's website, because I can't stand the way their points tables are layed out. Compare with this: http://www.getyourgameon.co.nz/competition/capital-football/season/2010. IMHO, much easier to see at a glance what's going on in the competition.

GYGO needs a bit of work before it'll be possible though, and I have code to write for Tony first ;).

If anyone has any feedback/ideas, I'd love to hear them!

Clubs have to register players currently though, and they have to collect subs and pass them to CF. In theory this just automates the process. Should be less work, not more. Plus clubs won't have to maintain their own membership databases if they don't want to (and as long as the system is working correctly why would they want to?).

Umm, except that they are the suppliers of GoalNet to NZF. That much is obvious from CF's new website.

Hrm, right you are. I really should know these things.

Anyone know how far along goalnet is then?

Well, just from browsing the GoalNet link on the CF site it's obvious they are wanting clubs to start signing up now on an opt-in basis (I guess that will change to be compulsory sometime down the track).

I'm not involved in a club though so I have no idea what comms have gone out and how it's been received.

I can definitely understand why they'd be doing it at least. My Mum used to run Stop Out's club database for several years. She had it lucky because Dad was able to build her an Access DB to handle everything, but not all clubs are as lucky I guess.

Just a shame there's no NZ supplier they could be using, eh? ;)

CF are importing data into Goalnet. Expect to see it take over the senior Access DB next year

What about Junior data? There are far more junior players than senior and I'm guessing at the moment that clubs still only register teams not players. Hence some clubs having 15 players in a 5 aside team that only see an official game once every 2-3 weeks and spend the rest at practice. The club keeps all the subs but only pays 1 team rego. Very cost effective for the club and saves on paying levies for previous incompetences. If that is a word. SportZone2010-07-03 21:06:03

I was talking about the juniors. That is where the numbers and all the work is. Because without juniors who would have money to pay those senior players?

The main purpose for accurate numbers is for Sparc funding. Sparc want to know how many kids are doing what and funding is based on that. Soccer can't do it.
Rugby can and I'm guessing they milk it for all it's worth. Everyone who picks up a ball is counted even if they get counted twice at 2 different rugby events and good on them.
SportZone2010-07-03 21:04:45

The clubs collect the data for club use and unless they disclose they are going to forward the details to CF and then CF will release it to NZF who will use the data for ????????. They breach the privacy act, unless all is disclosed up front and it is signed off.
How many clubs have the signature of all their players?

The question has nothing to do with what anyone expects NZ soccer to hold of their personal information.  It's about:

- How they obtained it (i.e. with permission of the person),
- What they do with it (run a few statistical queries across it?, build a marketing database?, etc)
- Who else has access to it...   (& what do they use it for?)
- What compliance ability do they have to audit the level of access permissions that have been granted to the information.

An example would be that I give my details to my club & as part of that form I might allow my club to forward some parts of that information onto NZF, such as 'Date of Birth'.  As part of that agreement I might not have granted permission for my email or postal address to be forwarded to NZF or anywhere else as part of a marketing database.

My Club it the organisation that is liable if I start getting spam or mail advertising where the source of details is traced back to my club registration form.    Unless GoalNet can demonstrate clear auditability and compliance practices around this aspect, you don't know what you're opening yourselves up to.

Acknowledging that this is an extremely paranoid scenario, but look at govt websites regarding the increase of identity theft, etc, etc....  It's still a legislative requirement.

Any info suppied via a "sportingpulse" website is not covered by the NZ Privacy act as sportingpulse is an Ausstrailian base outfit, so they collect the info then sell it on, that is how they so call give one a "free website"

gees it's no wonder football administrators struggle in this country with people like this making mountains out of molehills