bigfudge wrote:reubee wrote:This is just Fed League which is what Central Football was trying to avoid with the introduction of CL2. In theory it makes complete sense.Tyler wrote:I'd vote 3
Options being discussed and agreed. I believe the options are.
1- keep CL2 as is (first teams only from Capital and Central).
2- keep CL2 but allow ressies teams in there based on current placements from Capital prem. Think would mean Olympic ressies go in.
3- scrap CL2 and send the Central teams back to Central. Would mean the Capital CL2 teams would go to Cap Prem.
I think there is too much travel fatigue, as you go down the pyramid there should be less travel.
The National League System in the UK has a 1-2-4-8-16 model https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_League_System#Organisation:~:text=pure%20pyramid%20in%20a%201%2D2%2D4%2D8%2D16%20was%20the%20goal . With our geography and population distribution, we should have a 1-3-6-12 model which would mean no CL2 but a CL2 North, CL2 South.
Step 1: National
Step 2:Northern, Central, Southern
Step 3:NL2 North, NL2 South, CL2 North, CL2 South, SL2 North, SL2 South
Step 4:Northland, Auckland, Waikato, Bay of Plenty, Taranaki, Hawkes Bay, Manawatu, Wellington, Tasman, Canterbury, Otago, Southland
Depending on the teams and distributions, that might mean a team in the middle geographically such as TK could be in CL2 North one year and CL2 South the next. In a worst case scenario of 11 Capital and 9 Central, you might go with a CL2 East and a CL2 West.
For reserve teams, a regulation for reserve teams to be a minimum number of divisions apart, I'd probably say 2 steps apart, so a National league reserve team could be as high as step 3, a Northern, Central, Southern reserve team to be as high as step 4.
One of the issues is the gap between the ambitious sides in the Central Federation and the local club sides is just too big. That's why CL2 works (for Central Football at least), becuase it allows the ambitious sides to play at a good level and against good opposition, and lets the local clubs play at East and West Prem.
There are plenty of difficult challenges for Central sides to overcome and CL2 has undoubtedly helped.
I love the sound of you idea, but it would probably just turn into 4-5 clubs form the Central Region, and then a bunch of Welly sides having to be 'North'.
The best three Cap Prem teams would beat most if not all of the CL2 teams so it would make sense to keep CL2 with four possibly five newly promoted teams to make the league better.
If Western Suburbs win their NL playoff in September the 5 teams from CL will go to NL and 5 teams from CL2 will go to CL. That leaves room for 5 promoted teams to CL2 and it would make sense to have the top 3 CP teams plus 1 each from West and East to get promoted to CL2. I don't see a problem with reserve teams playing in CL2 if they are worthy of a spot in that league due to their league positions - not just beacuse their 1st teams are in NL.
If WS lose the playoff then only 4 teams move up and the powers that be will have to calculate some form of playoff forn the affected teams. It would have made sense to have all of these permutations set out at the start of the season.
If Western Suburbs win their NL playoff in September the 5 teams from CL will go to NL and 5 teams from CL2 will go to CL. That leaves room for 5 promoted teams to CL2 and it would make sense to have the top 3 CP teams plus 1 each from West and East to get promoted to CL2. I don't see a problem with reserve teams playing in CL2 if they are worthy of a spot in that league due to their league positions - not just beacuse their 1st teams are in NL.
If WS lose the playoff then only 4 teams move up and the powers that be will have to calculate some form of playoff forn the affected teams. It would have made sense to have all of these permutations set out at the start of the season.